RBH Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Like the title says. I find it difficult to precisely control the slider to change transpose number. I often use this to test transpose offsets in multiple track midi drums. Especially when converting from one library to another and I want to change the transpose on a track to track basis. The slider requires a too fine of touch to just slide single values - but typing in a value ( or more typically - just doing + 1 - + 2 etc ) would far easier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Are you talking about Key +/- in the Inspector Panel? For me the PC mouse wheel does +/-12 and Shift+mouse wheel does +/- 1. Are you talking about a different slider? The documentation says "Enter a value (1 = a semitone), or press the + or – key to change the key by a single semitone. Use the [ or ] key to change the key by 12 semitones (one octave)." If you are talking about the Transpose MFX, I was able to enter values by clIcking on the Offset value box. If you are talking about Menu Bar > Process > Transpose, [ & ] still work for transposing by 12 and plus + minus still work for steps. Edited January 27, 2023 by User 905133 (4) Fixed typo; (3) To add info about the Process > Transpose menu dialog; (2) To add info about the Transpose MFX; (1) To add a quote from the documentation about using keys to change the Inspector's Key+ value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBH Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 12/4/2022 at 2:38 PM, User 905133 said: Are you talking about Key +/- in the Inspector Panel? For me the PC mouse wheel does +/-12 and Shift+mouse wheel does +/- 1. Are you talking about a different slider? The documentation says "Enter a value (1 = a semitone), or press the + or – key to change the key by a single semitone. Use the [ or ] key to change the key by 12 semitones (one octave)." If you are talking about the Transpose MFX, I was able to enter values by clocking on the Offset value box. If you are talking about Menu Bar > Process > Transpose, [ & ] still work for transposing by 12 and plus + minus still work for steps. Sorry just saw this response.... yes I'm talking about the Inspector panel. The slider widget there is not easy to guide to a specific number without over running. At times - I'm trying to adjust a key offset ( audibly ), to get an idea of how many keys to edit transpose. A Plus or minus 1 at the edges of the slider would be helpful as well as a numeric input. There seems to be a lot of screen real estate in the inspector window for midi generally. I can think of several ways to expand the current selections for better graphical layout. The transpose is just one that I use pretty regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) On 1/26/2023 at 8:51 PM, RBH said: On 12/4/2022 at 3:38 PM, User 905133 said: Are you talking about Key +/- in the Inspector Panel? For me the PC mouse wheel does +/-12 and Shift+mouse wheel does +/- 1. Sorry just saw this response.... yes I'm talking about the Inspector panel. The slider widget there is not easy to guide to a specific number without over running. At times - I'm trying to adjust a key offset ( audibly ), to get an idea of how many keys to edit transpose. A Plus or minus 1 at the edges of the slider would be helpful as well as a numeric input. Makes sense. Finding a specific value with the slider widgets is a problem. For me the Shift+mouse wheel method works in part because I am comfortable with using the mouse and the rectangular widgets are nice, large hot spots. I can understand that for others clicking on the widget and typing a number might be easier. Maybe the developers can redesign the widget. 9 hours ago, murat k. said: Press Enter. 9 hours ago, sjoens said: ENTER works on Key+ & Time+. Edited January 28, 2023 by User 905133 (2) Struck out comment and added solution that was already there! (1) fixed a typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 The +/- buttons on the numpad work in the inspector key widget. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Although I find Key adjustments rather easy, it is odd (inconsistent) that it works differently than Time + where you can 2xClick and enter value directly. Either way, users will think they should both operate the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murat k. Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 On 12/4/2022 at 11:20 PM, RBH said: but typing in a value ( or more typically - just doing + 1 - + 2 etc ) would far easier Press Enter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Voila! ENTER works on Key+ & Time+. 2xClick only on Key+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Please delete. Edited post (below) got put in as a new post. ? Edited January 28, 2023 by User 905133 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, murat k. said: Press Enter. 9 hours ago, sjoens said: Voila! ENTER works on Key+ & Time+. Verified. Nevertheless some people will still complain for some reason or another or a different reason. ? Seriously, though, maybe the double click option that works for the Time+ slider could be set up for the Key+ slider? Edited January 28, 2023 by User 905133 added a missing word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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