marcL Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 18 hours ago, mettelus said: If the internet exploded and you never got another update ever again, CbB as it is now will exceed your needs. Yes, and after maximum 6 month you can't use it anymore, because the re-authorization cannot be done. ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Anderton Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Stephen Rybacki said: Hi Craig, glad to see you're here. I still use Cakewalk. And I still use Studio One, Ableton Live, and Pro Tools I also do occasional forays into Cubase and DP. Right tool for the right job, and all that. I used to participate in this forum more when I'd look at the topics, and see a question that didn't have a response. If I could answer it, I would. These days, questions get answered fast and comprehensively by other people so I don't really need to add anything. It's good to see that Cakewalk continues to thrive. Props to Meng, Noel, and the rest of the team. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 32 minutes ago, marled said: Yes, and after maximum 6 month you can't use it anymore, because the re-authorization cannot be done. ? What in God's name are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Borthwick Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 3:40 AM, SVSX said: Not that i'm questioning your experience, but on my PC Cakewalk is running pretty stable/smooth. Can't imagine how its running even better. But my brother is using Reaper for his Apple PC and its a good software. Thanks for using Cakewalk software. It has grown by leaps and bounds over the last 4 years and is more stable and performant than it has ever been. In general, if any DAW meets your workflow and needs there is no need to keep endlessly looking elsewhere because you will waste more time learning new tools. And believe me when I say this - every product has flaws and bugs despite what you might hear from anyone else We're also working on something exciting that will be announced relatively soon so at minimum hold out until then ? 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Borthwick Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Craig Anderton said: Specific DAWs (including Cakewalk) have specialized features that other DAWs don't have. Unless you need a feature that can be found only in one DAW, Cakewalk will do pretty much anything you want it to do, and do it well. Of course, the biggest advantage is the money you would normally spend on a DAW, you can spend on plug-ins to supplement what comes with the program. For me any product its actually more than the sum of its features, but its workflow. If a product has a million features but the workflow doesn't suit me, I don't use it. Time is too short to waste on things that aren't intuitive to you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcL Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 34 minutes ago, bdickens said: What in God's name are you talking about? If the internet is gone, then you cannot re-authorize Cakewalk anymore! That's what I meant, or do I have some misunderstanding? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcL Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Noel Borthwick said: For me any product its actually more than the sum of its features, but its workflow. If a product has a million features but the workflow doesn't suit me, I don't use it. Time is too short to waste on things that aren't intuitive to you. That's what I really like of CbB (and Sonar), it's the workflow and the interface! ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Borthwick Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 If the internet is gone permanently, I think you will have far worse problems than not being able to use your DAW You can authorize cakewalk via the offline auth mechanism but yes that requires at least a remote internet connection somewhere. Pretty much most software today is tied to some sort of activation mechanism, its just how the industry has evolved. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcL Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Noel Borthwick said: If the internet is gone permanently, I think you will have far worse problems than not being able to use your DAW You can authorize cakewalk via the offline auth mechanism but yes that requires at least a remote internet connection somewhere. Pretty much most software today is tied to some sort of activation mechanism, its just how the industry has evolved. I just referred to the comment of @Mettelus! ? But you have to admit that there is some software (also DAWs) that would still be running (also Sonar)! ? Some software only on already installed systems, but some also on new systems (but I agree this kind gets rarer and rarer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murat k. Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, Noel Borthwick said: If the internet is gone permanently, I think you will have far worse problems than not being able to use your DAW You can authorize cakewalk via the offline auth mechanism but yes that requires at least a remote internet connection somewhere. Pretty much most software today is tied to some sort of activation mechanism, its just how the industry has evolved. I had never thought that way. If an apocalypse happens and I survive, will I not be able to make music with Cakewalk anymore? That would be boring. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsinger Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Ran across this video today. Pros say: THIS is the best DAW for music production 2022. Cakewalk places #5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPeCu7Yl4QU The guy asked 2246 music producers ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 hours ago, murat k. said: IIf an apocalypse happens and I survive, will I not be able to make music with Cakewalk anymore? That would be boring. In the event of a sudden apocalypse that somehow nukes the internet but leaves the power grid intact, CbB will work as it always has for 6 months. At which point, all you need to do to continue working with it is set your computer's clock back a year. And you can even leave it that way, because, remember no internet, therefore no internet time servers for Windows to contact. @scook would probably create a script to set the system clock back, start Cakewalk, then upon exiting, set the system clock forward again. Assuming phone lines still work, we could get this script via the revived Cakewalk dial-up BBS. Not to worry! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVSX Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said: We're also working on something exciting that will be announced relatively soon so at minimum hold out until then ? Oh, i can't wait ? THX @ the team for your continuous work! Edited October 5, 2022 by SVSX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.r Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 54 minutes ago, Starship Krupa said: In the event of a sudden apocalypse that somehow nukes the internet but leaves the power grid intact, CbB will work as it always has for 6 months. At which point, all you need to do to continue working with it is set your computer's clock back a year. And you can even leave it that way, because, remember no internet, therefore no internet time servers for Windows to contact. @scook would probably create a script to set the system clock back, start Cakewalk, then upon exiting, set the system clock forward again. Assuming phone lines still work, we could get this script via the revived Cakewalk dial-up BBS. Not to worry! That would probably screw up some other software properly authorized on such systems. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57Gregy Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 I also am a hobbyist. I began with buying a Yamaha keyboard with drum sounds included, a 4-track TASCAM cassette recorder and some guitars so I could record some of my songs. Then my brother the programmer suggested I try a computer program. He thought it would be easier. So, I bought Cakewalk's Music Creator 2003, which was MC 2 with a MIDI-to-MPU 401 game port cable. The TASCAM has been in a box ever since then, except for a couple remote recordings I needed to do. I use almost no plug-ins, EQ, et cetera (although I've been told a few times some more mastering would be helpful) since my hearing is so bad I can't tell the difference and all I want to do is get my music arranged and recorded. I have a simple layout for my starting template, I try to keep things simple for my simple mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackson white Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 20 hours ago, rsinger said: Ran across this video today. Pros say: THIS is the best DAW for music production 2022. Cakewalk places #5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPeCu7Yl4QU The guy asked 2246 music producers ... pretty limited scope... "? GENRES ? • Electronic Music • EDM • Electro House • Big Room • Dance Music • Techno • Tech House • Beats" but hey, it's YT, where click bait titles are typically the sum total of their creativity. didn't bother to do any fact checking on who the "pros" were... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 21 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said: We're also working on something exciting that will be announced relatively soon so at minimum hold out until then Thanks for the continued development of this great DAW! Now you have me checking here everyday for the announcement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Rybacki Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 21 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said: If the internet is gone permanently, I think you will have far worse problems than not being able to use your DAW You can authorize cakewalk via the offline auth mechanism but yes that requires at least a remote internet connection somewhere. Pretty much most software today is tied to some sort of activation mechanism, its just how the industry has evolved. All it takes to do that is a Kessler Syndrome scenario and we're there. It could happen too. Anyway, IF that does happen, I'll be too busy hunting and gathering to give much of a crap about pop music anymore ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Anderton Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, jackson white said: pretty limited scope... "? GENRES ? • Electronic Music • EDM • Electro House • Big Room • Dance Music • Techno • Tech House • Beats" but hey, it's YT, where click bait titles are typically the sum total of their creativity. didn't bother to do any fact checking on who the "pros" were... I believe Cakewalk has always been seriously underrated in terms of being suitable for dance music. I've used it to make a lot of EDM-oriented soundtracks, because its ability to blend traditional-style recording with features like the Matrix view and the ability to create stretchable files. The MIDI implementation is also excellent. Granted, it doesn't bundle a lot of EDM-oriented plug-ins, but you can always buy those (and even get many of them for free). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 For the price of CbB it really should be in your DAW arsenal for the MIDI implementation is top-notch IMHO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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