satya Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 I got the Apricot plugin which is only in CLAP format , and when i scanned it in cakewalk after adding the CLAP plugin location , it did not show up in list of VST . So does cakewalk support it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tim Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 No, as of today Cakewalk only supports VST (2 and 3), and Direct X. It looks like it's starting to catch on, so it's worth putting in a feature request to support it. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) Clever idea. In a perfect world - soon to come, there should be only one standard open source format for all cross-platform plugins and exclusive format only for "in-house" plugins for DAW makers who don't want their plugins used outside their software. Edited September 19, 2022 by sjoens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tim Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 When your plugin doesn't come with an uninstaller, but instead comes with a penicillin shot ? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 It would be very nice if Noel and the whole could get the CLAP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 So far only BitWig and REAPER support CLAP plugins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azslow3 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said: So far only BitWig and REAPER support CLAP plugins. For many people that means "my DAW support it" . Once JUCE can officially produce CLAP plug-ins, that will be sufficient to start "global change". AAX is supported just in one DAW... Audio Unit just on one platform. Yet that was never a reason to say "these are not interesting plug-in formats". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTsongwriter Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I'm interested to see CLAP be supported by CakeWalk by Bandlabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) Ooops. Edited November 17, 2022 by User 905133 Hit submit instead of next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTsongwriter Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, User 905133 said: Ooops. Ooops? ... Never mind saw thems reason Edited November 17, 2022 by El Diablo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asato Maa Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 The development of a new feature should solve some problem for a large number of users, or bring new value to them. Given that: 1. There are practically no applications on the market 2. They are co-developed with Bitwig 3. 99% of any applications can be found in VST 2 and VST3 - there is no special need for it At least for myself, I don’t see the point in CLAP. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Asato Maa said: The development of a new feature should solve some problem for a large number of users, or bring new value to them. Given that: 1. There are practically no applications on the market 2. They are co-developed with Bitwig 3. 99% of any applications can be found in VST 2 and VST3 - there is no special need for it At least for myself, I don’t see the point in CLAP. Same here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azslow3 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 14 hours ago, Asato Maa said: The development of a new feature should solve some problem for a large number of users, or bring new value to them. Given that: 1. There are practically no applications on the market 2. They are co-developed with Bitwig 3. 99% of any applications can be found in VST 2 and VST3 - there is no special need for it At least for myself, I don’t see the point in CLAP. 1. Yup. But that means Cakewalk can be in the short list of pioneers. It was with ARA, even so there was practically one plug-in for it. 2. So what? Is Bitwig evil? The standard is open and not owned by any company (unlike all currently "common" formats). 3. you know that new developers are not allowed to write VST2. And VST3 has many problems (along with the fact the owner can declare it "obsolete" any time, and unlike with VST2 even currently developers will have to abandon it in flavor of whatever creature Steinberg declare as "the new one"). Right? For long time no-one could see "the point" in e-cars. And then.... ups... Also Cakewalk's DX driven MIDI engine has to be replaces. VST2 is obsolete. VST3 doesn't really support MIDI. So, why not target CLAP there? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asato Maa Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, azslow3 said: 1. Yup. But that means Cakewalk can be in the short list of pioneers. It was with ARA, even so there was practically one plug-in for it. 2. So what? Is Bitwig evil? The standard is open and not owned by any company (unlike all currently "common" formats). 3. you know that new developers are not allowed to write VST2. And VST3 has many problems (along with the fact the owner can declare it "obsolete" any time, and unlike with VST2 even currently developers will have to abandon it in flavor of whatever creature Steinberg declare as "the new one"). Right? For long time no-one could see "the point" in e-cars. And then.... ups... Also Cakewalk's DX driven MIDI engine has to be replaces. VST2 is obsolete. VST3 doesn't really support MIDI. So, why not target CLAP there? Thank you for this message! As a product manager, I understand that in every killer feature there must be value and a solution to the pain of a large number of users of the product. Or such a decision should be consistent with a long-term product development strategy. I have tried discussing Cakewalk's SMM strategy on this forum here, but to no avail. In general, CLAP is not as clear to me as it is to you. You can try making a post about the value of CLAP for Cakewalk by BandLab and tag the developers. What do you think about it? Edited November 18, 2022 by Asato Maa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azslow3 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I am a programmer and I am not working for BandLab. They have skilled people which understand what CLAP is and how much work is required to support it (as you could see in the answer from Noel, that is unfortunately not easy). I just thought leaving this thread in the state "users don't see a point" was not good. I prefer to support progressive ideas. And when something "is not there" and I can make it on my own, I try to do this (f.e. you can find my post early today what was not possible yesterday, but possible now, even so the number of "users" of the feature is probably close to... ?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I'd say there are enough issues with existing plugin formats that need to be addressed first (incompatabilities, genuine surround support*, MIDI FX support, VST expression) before worrying about a nascent format that hasn't established itself. * I'm not sure this is worthwhile, personally, but it's still missing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fogle Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 @Kevin Perry, I agree with you that it seems every effect and virtual instrument plugin specification has incompatibility and support issues. It's too bad DAW manufacturers can't create an association to create and maintain a universal plugin standard. Perhaps one similar to the MIDI Association but focused on plugins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTsongwriter Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 The great thing about CLAP is there's nobody to shut it down. VST can send a letter to everyone to stop creating new plugs, but with CLAP there's no agreement to sign! CLAP is open source, released under the MIT license: No fees, memberships or proprietary license agreements are required before developing or distributing a CLAP capable host or plug-in, and the license never expires. - https://u-he.com/community/clap/ https://cleveraudio.org/ https://github.com/free-audio/clap Anyone else interested? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murat k. Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 ?+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillmy Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 I would love to see Cakewalk support CLAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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