jackson white Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 "Should music be easier to make?" "...music is lagging behind..." "making music still involves mastering all those confusing frets, keys, tempos, and chord progressions" "Most of the [production] tools that you would use, like Logic or Ableton Live, are still at this pro level. They’re hard to use, and it’s challenging to learn an instrument." https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/03/20/business/startups-aim-bring-music-making-masses/ "production tools designed to be less intimidating than existing software" ... ya, sounds like a plot to make karaoke bars look good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Good God. "Wah! It takes effort!" Who can I send a box of tissues to? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackson white Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 The OG "production tool"... https://www.fisher-price.com/en-ca/product/fisher-price-classic-xylophone-cmy09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 It just shows you how out of touch the media is in general. FL Studio and Live are popular because you can create something right away. Beyond the surface these get very complex. We live in a generation wanting instant results. How is this any different than learning an instrument. You could spend all day on a guitar playing an e minor chord or a Bb scale on a trombone but eventually one will have to desire to go deeper. The average person likes to do things on a phone and there are beatmaking apps and that's as far as they want to go. I think they've done more than enough in music software to make something simple. Some companies figured out that that home studio or hobbyist is a bigger market than the professionals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Paul Simon: "punk was invented for those who can't play a musical instrument, rap for those who can't sing." Now there's a third option for those who just can't be bothered, period. It's called "democratization". The same process that turned millions of people into infectious disease and/or international relations experts, strippers with an iPhone into millionaires, named a Royal Navy ship "Boaty McBoatface" and gave "Keeping up with the Kardashians" a Peoples' Choice award. Everybody gets a Participation Trophy! Of course none of that applies to those of us enjoying a million-dollar recording studio in a laptop, pretending to command a full orchestra, pretending to have perfect pitch, pretending to know what an oud is, taking credit for some loops we found online, and generally letting software polish our turds for us. No, that's completely different. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, bitflipper said: Of course none of that applies to those of us enjoying a million-dollar recording studio in a laptop, pretending to command a full orchestra, pretending to have perfect pitch, pretending to know what an oud is, taking credit for some loops we found online, and generally letting software polish our turds for us. No, that's completely different. I've been sussed! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Sometimes I pretend to have an Alembic... Oh, wait... That's not me. Nevermind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Smith Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Music really is tough to make in modern DAWS. It's a royal pain looking for just the right loop professional musicians played and recorded and trying to decide between the 500 instruments at my disposal, and those mastering presets...what a pain trying to decide. Too much trouble to go buy a microphone and figure out how to put sound in there. Now, where's my binky? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackson white Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 America's Got Talent >> Who Needs Talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I wasn't sure where to post this link. All the right people who would know and remember what this reminds me of are here so I figured I'd post it here. Maybe make someone smile and remember the 'good ol days'. (Cue Billy Joel's 'Keeping The Faith') The more things change the more they stay the same ... Crick here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertWS Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 hours ago, bitflipper said: Paul Simon: "punk was invented for those who can't play a musical instrument, rap for those who can't sing." Now there's a third option for those who just can't be bothered, period. It's called "democratization". The same process that turned millions of people into infectious disease and/or international relations experts, strippers with an iPhone into millionaires, named a Royal Navy ship "Boaty McBoatface" and gave "Keeping up with the Kardashians" a Peoples' Choice award. Everybody gets a Participation Trophy! Of course none of that applies to those of us enjoying a million-dollar recording studio in a laptop, pretending to command a full orchestra, pretending to have perfect pitch, pretending to know what an oud is, taking credit for some loops we found online, and generally letting software polish our turds for us. No, that's completely different. I love it when old guys (like me) get a good rant going! Nice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Cheat sheet for a few common home studio issues . Kenny 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Oh, wait...That's not me. But It could be . Kenny Edited March 23, 2022 by kennywtelejazz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibbles Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, kennywtelejazz said: Oh, wait...That's not me. But It could be . Kenny It makes you wonder how we managed to enjoy gigs in our younger days without a smart phone* to make a terrible recording of it. * I realise in the picture that the kiddies are holding cameras, but the point remains valid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fwrend Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Wibbles said: * I realise in the picture that the kiddies are holding cameras, but the point remains valid. Yeah, because they are digital cameras - what's an "f-stop?" Edited March 23, 2022 by Fwrend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibbles Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fwrend said: Yeah, because they are digital cameras - what' an "f-stop?" Whoosh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Smith Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Fwrend said: what's an "f-stop?" The fun is over? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Fwrend said: Yeah, because they are digital cameras - what's an "f-stop?" When you're at a gig behind some kid who keeps holding his phone/camera up in the air in front of you and you tell him to f****** stop? ?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_B. Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 'eh. I'm from Jersey you little cazzo. We invented the f-stop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Smith Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Did they invent the internet too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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