Xoo Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 Many years ago, when I was a wee nipper(!), I played in a Hawkwind tribute band. One of the songs we played was High Rise (based on J G Ballard's book). I recently decided I'd re-work it, taking the backing we recorded as the tribute band, and putting some guitar solo over it (I've pretty much not picked up my guitar for a couple of years - lockdowns, small child, work... - so wanted to get back into playing with a song I know really well, and I needed to start using some guitar amp sims as I don't have room any more for my guitar rack!). I'm aiming for a Dave Gilmour-esque feel using TH3 (just updated to TH-U but I haven't used it in anger yet). It's very much a work in progress at the moment - the solo was a one-take improvisation, and I know there's at least one duff note in there, with a minimal amount of topping and tailing in CbB. I plan to re-record when I have some more time, but I'm after any feedback around style, feel etc at the moment. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qe5ehml81bm5fqw/High Rise (Instrumental).mp3?dl=1 TIA 1
Larry T. Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 Hi Kevin....never got into Hawkwind nor ever heard High Rise but like your cover....imo guitar needs to be brought up....the rest is balanced pretty darn well ????
Xoo Posted November 1, 2021 Author Posted November 1, 2021 And updated with louder/clearer guitar (I cut some more bass from it).
Xoo Posted November 2, 2021 Author Posted November 2, 2021 I've YT'd it with a video: https://youtu.be/nDZRxiDMIIg
Wookiee Posted November 3, 2021 Posted November 3, 2021 @Kevin Perry I was introduced to Hawkwind in a darkened but hazy blue smoky room, the day after they released their first album Hawkwind. I loved it. the next couple of albums were OK but I then think they lost their way a little. I did get to see them perform the Space Ritual twice complete with Stacia. I do not recognise this track but the playing sounds fine, though I am wondering if the reverb is making it a little muffled, but then Mr Brock did like a some reverb. Thank you for sharing, nice little piece of space rock on a Wednesday afternoon. 1
Xoo Posted November 4, 2021 Author Posted November 4, 2021 @Wookiee It's from a 1979 album, so a little after your time with them! I've actually dialled back the reverb a bit on my latest mix of it so I'm with you on that - I'll probably redo it a few more times before I'm happy.
mark skinner Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 Kevin , Good move picking that guitar back up , Great playing ! I think you captured the Gilmour feel nicely. I'd be interested to know how you got that sound from TH3 .. The you tube version was a lot better , I think the guitar is still getting buried a little by the synth. Great song and playing , enjoyed it .. mark 1
jack c. Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 lead guitar needs some bottom taken off and a tad more highs.bring up kick drum.fine work.jack c.
Xoo Posted November 6, 2021 Author Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 1:26 PM, mark skinner said: Kevin , Good move picking that guitar back up , Great playing ! I think you captured the Gilmour feel nicely. I'd be interested to know how you got that sound from TH3 .. The you tube version was a lot better , I think the guitar is still getting buried a little by the synth. Great song and playing , enjoyed it .. mark High Rise.vstpreset Thanks Mark - I'm always wary of over-cooking the guitar and making it *too* prominent. I've tweaked a little since then and scooped out some mid from the synths to hopefully sit the guitar a little better without making it too dominant (not sure I've uploaded that version though!). I've attached the preset for the (VST3) version of TH3: it's the "freebie" version that came with one of the last SONARs (I've since upgraded to TH-U - Overloud get a big thumbs up from me for helping me upgrade years after SONAR became defunct...great support!). 1
Xoo Posted November 6, 2021 Author Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 3:16 PM, jack c. said: lead guitar needs some bottom taken off and a tad more highs.bring up kick drum.fine work.jack c. Thanks - I did wonder about the bottom end, and have cut quite a bit already (24dB high pass at about 170Hz) and boosted the top a bit, but as I said to Mark above, I'm not sure if I've posted that version yet. The drum tracks are something of a pain to work with - they were recorded at a god-awful studio by a god-awful engineer years ago, and there is more spill than at a baby's tea party. I might try using something like a PulTech emulator to emphasise it without doing too much damage to the rest of the drums.
Xoo Posted November 15, 2021 Author Posted November 15, 2021 After a bit of feedback from various people (and some reluctance on my part to leave well-alone!), I think I'm pleased to say it's now finished! The same dropbox URL will get the mp3 (I haven't updated the YT video as I have to start from scratch with a new video entirely - I can see why YT don't allow changing a video, but it's a PITA).
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