Mix Mysteriously Zeroed-Out

[Psychotronic]

Hi, folks.

So, I'm midway through mixing an album project, and have saved mixes for each song so far via Mix Recall. I was editing a track, and changed to Clip Edit mode (thanks to http://forum.cakewalk.com/Can39t-crop-or-delete-unwanted-clips-m3628799.aspx). I un-soloed the track and the entire mix had basically zeroed -- volume, pan, busses, sends -- everything. I tried using an earlier mix using the aforementioned Mix Recall, nothing changed. I tried closing anad re-opening the file, no difference. There was no undo, so I couldn't go backwards.

Am I missing something simple that I need to do to get it back or did I just lose everything?

[Michael Docy]

Maybe you accidently entered  Offset Mode?

[Psychotronic]

How do you disable that, or rather,  get out of it?

[msmcleod]

[Psychotronic]

I don't see that part of the toolbar on mine. Is it on a specific "view"?

[Lynn Wilson]

Right click on an empty space in the control bar and click on Custom.

[Noel Borthwick]

Does it really sound like it is zeroed out or do the faders just look that way? The offset mode tip is a possibility.

See if the volume values have a + next to them.

[Psychotronic]

16 hours ago, Lynn said:

Right click on an empty space in the control bar and click on Custom.

Tried that, there is no option for "Custom".

[Psychotronic]

2 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

Does it really sound like it is zeroed out or do the faders just look that way? The offset mode tip is a possibility.

See if the volume values have a + next to them.

Yes, it doesn't sound right. I noticed it immediately. The volumes don't have a +, but the pan's do. It also seems to have reset the buss and FX send values, although there are no + there.

[Blogospherianman]

Pressing the letter ‘O’ will toggle Offset mode.

[scook]

3 minutes ago, Blogospherianman said:

Pressing the letter ‘O’ will toggle Offset mode.

Only if the user set up the shortcut. The default offset mode binding to "O" was removed several years ago.

[scook]

39 minutes ago, Psychotronic said:

The volumes don't have a +, but the pan's do.

If the pans show offset mode so should volume. This shows the effect offset mode has on volume and pan labels in  an audio track header

Notice the + added to the Volume and Pan labels when the offset mode button goes green (the color used in this theme to indicate offset mode is enabled)

[Blogospherianman]

13 minutes ago, scook said:

Only if the user set up the shortcut. The default offset mode binding to "O" was removed several years ago.

Lol! I guess I set Cakewalk back up that way via preferences when I upgraded because it’s a big part of my workflow.  ? Makes sense I would do that! Haha!

[Psychotronic]

OK, so....Offset mode is now under the Mix tab on the toolbar. It was ON for some reason -- I don't know why it would be, but as soon as I toggled it, my faders/pans/etc. went back to where they should be. I don't have time to check it though as I'm on my way out, but I will later. 

[Noel Borthwick]

Keep in mind that changing to offset mode itself doesn't change the existing mix in any way so there is no data loss.

All it does is configure the mixer so that the gain controls now affect an "offset" gain stage on top of any existing levels you have. All offset gains starts out at unity so it will not affect your mix at all until you change something. Iow the normal gain staging and envelopes all stay intact. Offset mode is typically used to fine tune an existing mix which already has automation.

[Psychotronic]

Ah, I think I understand. I needed to crank the gain on one track on the current song due to the mic not having picked it up properly. Could that have been the cause?