wah wah

[Paul Bush]

Hi chaps does anyone know of a free if possible smooth auto wah wah vst without the swooshing background noises ?  the one in bandlab is not really that good

cheers P

[whoisp]

Free one here don't know what its like https://plugins4free.com/plugin/2580/

 

Apparently the EFEKTOR WF3607 Wah Filter is good but about £20 

[Paul Bush]

cheers whoisp  (great name that) I´m a cheap git so i´ll give it a go thanks P

[whoisp]

18 hours ago, Paul Bush said:

cheers whoisp  (great name that) I´m a cheap git so i´ll give it a go thanks P

Cakewalk is the best thing in the world that's free but expensive haha Ive only ever bought Addictive Drums2 and Ozone 9 elements.  Iv'e not used Melodyne yet and was going to be maybe do black Friday purchase end of year.  I have  Melodyne 4 installed and need to have a play first because i think i would use it for melodies and vocal maybe odd bit of guitar.  Everything else i use is free plugins and fx from a old Yamaha DJX keyboard haha 

[tparker24]

You could try the free Sonitus fx Wah Wah that's included with Cakewalk.

[Paul Bush]

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18 hours ago, whoisp said:

Cakewalk is the best thing in the world that's free but expensive haha Ive only ever bought Addictive Drums2 and Ozone 9 elements.  Iv'e not used Melodyne yet and was going to be maybe do black Friday purchase end of year.  I have  Melodyne 4 installed and need to have a play first because i think i would use it for melodies and vocal maybe odd bit of guitar.  Everything else i use is free plugins and fx from a old Yamaha DJX keyboard haha 

Creative sauce Mike just made a tutorial including  melodyne  a great tip to convert audio to midi ``a must see´´  so you can sing a solo melody and then convert it to say strings and then you have a midi instrument  solo 

 

[Paul Bush]

Hi tparker yeah Ive tried the cakewalk one but its   just so swooshy in the background it just didnt do it for me , i think maybe nothing can beat the real thing cheers

[Paul Bush]

18 hours ago, whoisp said:

Cakewalk is the best thing in the world that's free but expensive haha Ive only ever bought Addictive Drums2 and Ozone 9 elements.  Iv'e not used Melodyne yet and was going to be maybe do black Friday purchase end of year.  I have  Melodyne 4 installed and need to have a play first because i think i would use it for melodies and vocal maybe odd bit of guitar.  Everything else i use is free plugins and fx from a old Yamaha DJX keyboard haha 

I tried installing that wah but it just wont work Ive copied and pasted it in my vst folders and in the scan  but cant find in in my library ?????

[whoisp]

4 hours ago, Paul Bush said:

I tried installing that wah but it just wont work Ive copied and pasted it in my vst folders and in the scan  but cant find in in my library ?????

I installed Microsoft™ 64/32 Bit Driver -win c drive - program files - cakewalk - vst plugins 

[Paul Bush]

Has anyone expirience with this budget wah wah vst  ?     on the face of it ,it seems good I mean for €3,00

https://www.hornetplugins.com/plugins/hornet-wahwah/

 

[whoisp]

reviews seem good but i not sure why the free one don't work. 

 

you tried this one http://www.nsp-vst.ru/ bottom of page wahman

 or download link

http://www.nsp-vst.ru/files/Wahman_x64.zip

[Paul Bush]

Hi Whoisp, Try as i might i just cant get it to work ,I´m sure its down to me all the other vsts( 74 ) Ive installed have worked perfectly cheers p

 

[scook]

The Sonitus WahWah does not add any noise,

The "swooshing background noise" is the filter being applied to noise in the signal the plug-in is receiving.

This will happen with any filter plug-in when it is moving through frequencies containing a significant amount of noise.

Don't like the noise, send the plug-in a cleaner signal, do not use the Auto Wah mode or try adjusting the frequencies swept by the plug-in.

 

[scook]

Failed to mention, the TH3 plug-in bundled with CbB includes an autowah and crybaby style FX or automate one of the EQ for a similar effect.

[John Vere]

 

The correct name for the classic sound is a Envelope Filter. 
A stomp box like my Mutron or my MXR are not swishy. If the effect is swishy it’s not a Envelope filter. 
A proper Envelope filters are voltage driven. The harder you pick the deeper the filter goes. So it’s like you are in control of the Wha with you hand not your foot. This is why they are a very cool expressive effect      
Because the proper sound is from your interaction with your guitar I would not want to use this effect as a VST  I can’t see getting the correct  reaction  I don’t think it’s possible to have a VST react to voltage  you would just peak your signal level 

Of course you could automate a wha VST and possibly use your joystick controller to manipulate a guitar track 

You want to hear killer wha tracks check out @batsbrew in the song forum. 

In this song I'm using my Mutron 

 

Edited June 24, 2021 by John Vere

[Paul Bush]

Yeah the batsbrew tracks are super good  ,he has that wide smooth sound from the wah , 

[rsinger]

On 6/20/2021 at 5:00 PM, John Vere said:

The correct name for the classic sound is a Envelope Filter. 
A stomp box like my Mutron or my MXR are not swishy. If the effect is swishy it’s not a Envelope filter. 
A proper Envelope filters are voltage driven. The harder you pick the deeper the filter goes. So it’s like you are in control of the Wha with you hand not your foot. This is why they are a very cool expressive effect      
Because the proper sound is from your interaction with your guitar I would not want to use this effect as a VST  I can’t see getting the correct  reaction  I don’t think it’s possible to have a VST react to voltage  you would just peak your signal level 

The voltage of an audio signal is also called the amplitude as well as volume and that exists in the digital domain.

Note that Millivolts (volts) is the v axis in the picture above. The red line below represents the envelope of the signal displayed. From my experience dsp envelope followers work fine.

Just like with HW you have to adjust the gain of the signal and the gain of the envelope follower.