jack c. Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 so for this would ya use the daws fader to move down so level for each track is -10 to record?or leave faders at unity gain and use gain knob to achieve this?thanks.jack c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Harder Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I set faders to 0 and use gain knob to achieve the -db level I want. This vid has lots of info 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) The gain and level controls in any DAW do not control recording levels. Your audio interface controls level. The faders are for mixing after you have tracks recorded. The gain controls are best left at unity unless the tracks were badly recorded and need help. The video covers this part very nicely Edited January 30, 2021 by John Vere 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack c. Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Steve Harder said: I set faders to 0 and use gain knob to achieve the -db level I want. This vid has lots of info thanks for info/video.this guy is outstanding.jack c. 7 hours ago, John Vere said: The gain and level controls in any DAW do not control recording levels. Your audio interface controls level. The faders are for mixing after you have tracks recorded. The gain controls are best left at unity unless the tracks were badly recorded and need help. i take it all vst plugins don't have to be adjusted whilst recording.voice,real bass or guitar hardware stuff have to be set at -10 db----18db as they are recorded into daw? me audio interface is presonus so are you saying whilst recording.voice,real bass or guitar hardware stuff i adjust presonus to reach -10 db----18db as they are recorded into daw?thanks john.jack c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Yes absolutely. It’s too bad the video is about mixing not tracking. Basically you insert an audio track and you don’t need to touch it. Nothing you do changes the recording level or sound quality. That happens in your interface. Edited January 30, 2021 by John Vere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Harder Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 46 minutes ago, John Vere said: Yes absolutely. It’s too bad the video is about mixing not tracking. My hope was directing OP to Creative Sauce would turn him on to a large set of tutorial videos. Mike created an excellent 15 part series that starts with live recording and ends with mastering and distribution. It's all there for study. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 4 hours ago, jack c. said: thanks for info/video.this guy is outstanding.jack c. i take it all vst plugins don't have to be adjusted whilst recording.voice,real bass or guitar hardware stuff have to be set at -10 db----18db as they are recorded into daw? me audio interface is presonus so are you saying whilst recording.voice,real bass or guitar hardware stuff i adjust presonus to reach -10 db----18db as they are recorded into daw?thanks john.jack c. It doesn't matter what you do with your Fx whilst recording - none of it will be captured in the track. CbB always records "dry" (unless you set up an Aux track and record from that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Yes everybody who uses Cakewalk even long time users can learn from that series. There are some things he misses but overall they are very educational and entertaining. like in that video he disables plug ins one at a time instead of just using the global bypass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 The gain knob and volume slider do the exact same thing at different places in the signal flow. Which one to use depends on where one wants to adjust the level. As noted above Cakewalk records the signal at its track inputs. Plug-ins added to a track come after the input. Understanding the signal flow is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack c. Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 5 hours ago, jack c. said: i take it all vst plugins don't have to be adjusted whilst recording.voice,real bass or guitar hardware stuff have to be set at -10 db----18db as they are recorded into daw? me audio interface is presonus so are you saying whilst recording.voice,real bass or guitar hardware stuff i adjust presonus to reach -10 db----18db as they are recorded into daw?thanks john.jack c. i take it all vst plugins i mean instruments not efx. 2 hours ago, John Vere said: Yes absolutely. It’s too bad the video is about mixing not tracking. Basically you insert an audio track and you don’t need to touch it. Nothing you do changes the recording level or sound quality. That happens in your interface. whilst recording.voice,real bass or guitar hardware stuff do i adjust presonus ? 1 hour ago, scook said: The gain knob and volume slider do the exact same thing at different places in the signal flow. Which one to use depends on where one want to adjust the level. As noted above Cakewalk records the signal at its track inputs. Plug-ins added to a track come after the input. Understanding the signal flow is important. i have to adjust fader or gain knob or me audio interface for correct volume or else it will be in red.so which do i adjust of the 3 whilst recording?jack c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 How many times do I have to repeat this- YOUR INTERFACE IS THE ONLY PLACE YOU ADUST RECORDING LEVELS. Sorry for shouting 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 6:56 PM, jack c. said: i take it all vst plugins i mean instruments not efx. whilst recording.voice,real bass or guitar hardware stuff do i adjust presonus ? i have to adjust fader or gain knob or me audio interface for correct volume or else it will be in red.so which do i adjust of the 3 whilst recording?jack c. Interface only. Nothing else affects what is recorded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristiano Sadun Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) On 1/29/2021 at 9:05 PM, jack c. said: so for this would ya use the daws fader to move down so level for each track is -10 to record?or leave faders at unity gain and use gain knob to achieve this?thanks.jack c. As others have said, you control the input gain when recording only by the physical controls on the preamp (and by looking at the meters). That said, I never fade anything during recording, it's much easier to do it afterwards (and you can use both automate the fader or the gain knob, it makes no difference in that context). Edited January 31, 2021 by Cristiano Sadun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack c. Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Cristiano Sadun said: As others have said, you control the input gain when recording only by the physical controls on the preamp (and by looking at the meters). That said, I never fade anything during recording, it's much easier to do it afterwards (and you can use both automate the fader or the gain knob, it makes no difference in that context). 3 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said: Interface only. Nothing else affects what is recorded thanks for response.after tooooooooooo many moons i'm learning stuff i should have learned first.jack c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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