Anders Madsen Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) I'm recording four chords in Kontakt/Hybrid keys. All is ok on the first playback. But when the track ends, the cutoff knob in Hybrid keys are automatically set to zero. And it remain this way on next playback, resulting in no sound. A workaround is to touch the mod wheel (Komplete kontrol A61) when starting new playback. This is not a Native instruments function, (according to NI) Does anyone know how I can get rid of this behaviour? Edited March 23, 2019 by Moxica
scook Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 Don't have the product to test but it could be Zero Controllers When Play Stops. Try disabling this option in preferences. 2
Anders Madsen Posted March 23, 2019 Author Posted March 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, scook said: Don't have the product to test but it could be Zero Controllers When Play Stops. Try disabling this option in preferences. That did the trick, scook! Thanks a lot. (I seem to remember that you have saved my day before.)
msmcleod Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) I noticed this as well. Having modulation at zero making cutoff freq = zero is a totally mental decision. Modulation at zero is the default position (as is actually having some sound coming out). Why on earth did NI not make it work in reverse? My workaround was to insert a CC# 1 (modulation) = 127 at the very beginning of the MIDI Event List. Edited March 23, 2019 by msmcleod 2
bitflipper Posted March 23, 2019 Posted March 23, 2019 There's a downside to disabling the zero-controllers option, which is why it's an option in the first place. Weird stuff can happen if you don't zero controllers when playback stops, such as restarting playback and the sustain pedal is stuck down (resulting in stuck notes), or an instrument playing out of tune because of where the pitch wheel was last set. For this reason, I combat the Kontakt modwheel problem using msmcleod's method of inserting a CC1 event at the start of the track. It's a small bother, but the problem mostly affects orchestral libraries that I'm probably going to add CC1 events to anyway. 2
Anders Madsen Posted March 23, 2019 Author Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) But, but. How does one insert a CC1 event? I mean, where do I find the event viewer/controller lane? Edit: Found it. Big thanx, gentlemen! Edited March 23, 2019 by Moxica
Noel Borthwick Posted March 24, 2019 Posted March 24, 2019 9 hours ago, msmcleod said: I noticed this as well. Having modulation at zero making cutoff freq = zero is a totally mental decision. Modulation at zero is the default position (as is actually having some sound coming out). Why on earth did NI not make it work in reverse? My workaround was to insert a CC# 1 (modulation) = 127 at the very beginning of the MIDI Event List. I was going to suggest this as well. Its very strange that a standard zero controller MIDI CC value would change sound ?Someone there hasn't used MIDI hardware CC's much haha. 1
Sonified Music Posted June 12, 2021 Posted June 12, 2021 On 3/24/2019 at 12:32 AM, bitflipper said: There's a downside to disabling the zero-controllers option, which is why it's an option in the first place. Weird stuff can happen if you don't zero controllers when playback stops, such as restarting playback and the sustain pedal is stuck down (resulting in stuck notes), or an instrument playing out of tune because of where the pitch wheel was last set. For this reason, I combat the Kontakt modwheel problem using msmcleod's method of inserting a CC1 event at the start of the track. It's a small bother, but the problem mostly affects orchestral libraries that I'm probably going to add CC1 events to anyway. How to insert a Cc1 event? I tried to do it in Piano roll view by adding a controler (Modulation)that is located just above the velocities of the notes. But after doing this the notes will play only with a constant velocity no matter how high or low i set the value of it. Am i doing anything wrong or how to insert cc1 value?
msmcleod Posted June 12, 2021 Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Sonified Music said: How to insert a Cc1 event? I tried to do it in Piano roll view by adding a controler (Modulation)that is located just above the velocities of the notes. But after doing this the notes will play only with a constant velocity no matter how high or low i set the value of it. Am i doing anything wrong or how to insert cc1 value? I normally use the Event View, and insert it right at the top of the list.
bitflipper Posted June 13, 2021 Posted June 13, 2021 16 hours ago, Sonified Music said: ...I tried to do it in Piano roll view by adding a controler (Modulation)that is located just above the velocities of the notes. But after doing this the notes will play only with a constant velocity no matter how high or low i set the value of it. Am i doing anything wrong or how to insert cc1 value? You're not doing anything wrong. I'd guess it's a quirk of the instrument you're using. One of my absolute favorite libraries is Amadeus Symphonic Orchestra because it sounds so good, but the way it deals with CC1 is frustratingly inconsistent.
Sonified Music Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) I am using Hybrid keys library in kontakt. It's really illogical and frustrating sometimes. Just knowing that its not just you other people tol are facing this, just ensures you that its just the technology not you or your process. Thanks ? Edited June 18, 2021 by Sonified Music
Sonified Music Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 Oh thanks, I'll try that. But can you please explain a bit more how exactly to do that, i still did not understand how you insert it in event list.
Sonified Music Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 On 6/13/2021 at 6:58 PM, bitflipper said: You're not doing anything wrong. I'd guess it's a quirk of the instrument you're using. One of my absolute favorite libraries is Amadeus Symphonic Orchestra because it sounds so good, but the way it deals with CC1 is frustratingly inconsistent. I am using Hybrid keys library in kontakt. It's really illogical and frustrating sometimes. Just knowing that its not just you other people tol are facing this, just ensures you that its just the technology not you or your process. Thanks ?
Sonified Music Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 On 6/13/2021 at 3:58 AM, msmcleod said: I normally use the Event View, and insert it right at the top of the list. Oh thanks, I'll try that. But can you please explain a bit more how exactly to do that, i still did not understand how you insert it in event list.
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