Starise Posted December 26, 2020 Posted December 26, 2020 This track is a Frankenstein of sorts. It wasn't made using only one large orchestral sample library. I used a little bit of almost everything. I have some Vienna synchron player, some Sampletank, some Sonivox, I loose track of what all else. It's a real hodge podge but it was fun to make. I was thinking movie cinematic when I made it today. Comments welcome from all, especially from those who might have made music for film. Thanks. 2
jack c. Posted December 26, 2020 Posted December 26, 2020 great recording. at the start the strings have a tad too many highs try low cut filter or eq high end.jack c. it sounds just like a pro symphony!the end needs a little tightening.
bjornpdx Posted December 26, 2020 Posted December 26, 2020 Definitely cinematic tho I think it needs a fuller sound. Maybe add some/more reverb or slight delay? Double tracking? Drums need to make their presence known - more boom! Evokes a nice dramatic scene, like marching soldiers.
David Sprouse Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) I really liked how you used melody, as well as the good, comprehensible counterpoint. Edited December 28, 2020 by David Sprouse 1
Wookiee Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 Epic sound, but @Starise hope you do not mind me saying it sounds just a tad MIDI, perhaps nudge here and a nudge there just to move the timing around a bit.
garybrun Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 I have listened to quite a lot of your stuff... this one seems very mechanical ... not real... cant explain what I mean. I understand where you are coming from... seems a little to much false! Sorry... we all paint very different pictures and as you know when we invite people to critically listen to our music we then get critical replies. ? But the average guy in the street wouldn't notice what some of us talk about and would be happy listening on his ear buds or phone ? 1
Bajan Blue Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 20 hours ago, Wookiee said: Epic sound, but @Starise hope you do not mind me saying it sounds just a tad MIDI, perhaps nudge here and a nudge there just to move the timing around a bit. Exactly what Wookie said! Apart from that I like it Nigel 1
Starise Posted December 28, 2020 Author Posted December 28, 2020 On 12/26/2020 at 1:16 PM, jack c. said: great recording. at the start the strings have a tad too many highs try low cut filter or eq high end.jack c. it sounds just like a pro symphony!the end needs a little tightening. On 12/26/2020 at 3:54 PM, bjornpdx said: Definitely cinematic tho I think it needs a fuller sound. Maybe add some/more reverb or slight delay? Double tracking? Drums need to make their presence known - more boom! Evokes a nice dramatic scene, like marching soldiers. Thank you for comments on this. May I ask what you're listening on? Just a brief explanation of my signal chain for drums. I rolled off anything below 40hz (slope) or it would eat up my overall signal. I EQ notched out the muddy mids at 250-500 but nothing more than a few db. I added Boz Bark Of Dog 2 on bass channels and boosted the bass in the "thump ranges with it. I'm using a very high quality reverb with a hall setting. Lows rolled off on reverb. I am side chaining into the Cakewalk master compressor at 100hz or under. I have it set low so the needle is barely moving. I am sending anything bass to that side chain. For master I am using Fabfilter to roll off lows below 30hz.>McDSP 4L4000 and following it up with a small amount of peak limiting at the end. Once again I'm keeping things less muddy using that plugin. I haven't cut any bass above 50hz. Open to suggestions. On 12/27/2020 at 7:13 AM, Wookiee said: Epic sound, but @Starise hope you do not mind me saying it sounds just a tad MIDI, perhaps nudge here and a nudge there just to move the timing around a bit. 22 hours ago, garybrun said: I have listened to quite a lot of your stuff... this one seems very mechanical ... not real... cant explain what I mean. I understand where you are coming from... seems a little to much false! Sorry... we all paint very different pictures and as you know when we invite people to critically listen to our music we then get critical replies. ? But the average guy in the street wouldn't notice what some of us talk about and would be happy listening on his ear buds or phone ? 6 hours ago, Bajan Blue said: Exactly what Wookie said! Apart from that I like it Nigel Thank you for bringing this tyo my attention! No midi programming here other than sliding the odd note here and there.. I must be a very exact player ? The only thing mechanical is I'm using the free Big Bang orchestra in the synchron player for only the low strings and brass. The synchron player still requires a person to "play" it. None of the runs in sychron are automated all hand played. But maybe that's what you hear. Drums are Sampletank 4 hand played. Violins are played in with Amadeus. Horns are SONiVox hand played. Thank you!
garybrun Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Starise said: No midi programming here other than sliding the odd note here and there.. I must be a very exact player ? The only thing mechanical is I'm using the free Big Bang orchestra in the synchron player for only the low strings and brass. The synchron player still requires a person to "play" it. None of the runs in sychron are automated all hand played. But maybe that's what you hear. Drums are Sampletank 4 hand played. Violins are played in with Amadeus. Horns are SONiVox hand played. Thank you! It is the low strings and brass: I am impressed with the no midi stuff. ? 1
Wookiee Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 22 hours ago, Starise said: No midi programming Must have been my Furry ears not being awake then.
Douglas Kirby Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 Nice job Starise - this had a drama vibe to me - so it would be cool for a movie soundtrack. 1
DeeringAmps Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/28/2020 at 7:32 AM, Starise said: No midi programming here other than sliding the odd note Reminds of a tune (tunes aren't similar of course, the comments are) I posted years ago on Broadjam. A surf tune my friend/long time collaborator had submitted to Taxi. Someone was incensed by the "programmed" drums; boy was Jeff's drummer pissed (drum track was kind of Wipeout ish) I told him to consider it as a compliment. On 12/26/2020 at 12:54 PM, bjornpdx said: Definitely cinematic tho I think it needs a fuller sound Not quite a "Cinematic" soundstage, wish I had a solution for you (both of us really). t 1
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