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Starise Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Sheens you had me going on this one. I should have known since this IS the CH. The only thing I really noticed back then on that show then was the girls in shorts. Just being honest. This is a highly Hollywoodized version of the south. Nothing even remotely like real southerners. Not sure if you ever seen that show. Very bad acting. In the same neighborhood as Mr. T and the A-Team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I'm surprised you didn't include the Dukes of Hazzard and the Beverly Hills Hillbillies Starise! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 58 minutes ago, Starise said: Sheens you had me going on this one. I should have known since this IS the CH. The only thing I really noticed back then on that show then was the girls in shorts. Just being honest. This is a highly Hollywoodized version of the south. Nothing even remotely like real southerners. Not sure if you ever seen that show. Very bad acting. In the same neighborhood as Mr. T and the A-Team watched the Dukes as a teenager, we had quite some US series and movies here. my favorites were Hill Street Blues, any road/truck or Clint Eastwood movie, Fall Guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 just alone to see the 70's USA cars and trucks was worth to watch anything then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Sheens said: watched the Dukes as a teenager, we had quite some US series and movies here. my favorites were Hill Street Blues, any road/truck or Clint Eastwood movie, Fall Guy The programming over there must have been similar. I liked Baywatch for the girls. That and the underwear section of the Sears catalog were all we had to look at. Kids now don't need an imagination. I liked Star Trek the best. I lived the 70's here and can remember many of my friends driving the kinds of cars that are now high dollar collectors vehicles. Mustangs, Chevy Camaros. The Dodge Cuda...etc. What you probably call petrol and we call gas was around 40-50 cents a gallon if I remember correctly so you could drive a car with a 454 cubic inch engine and 4 barrel carburetor all day long on a less than 10 dollars. Some of those cars only got maybe 10mpg. I wasn't very old. These cars weren't all brand new. They were used school kids cars. My best friend then his dad and brother were car enthusiasts and they built him a 55 Chevy panel wagon. Basically a 55 Chevy with a wagon back. No windows. One of the very first hatch backs. They called them delivery wagons. All high performance parts in it. Metallic blue, black reupholstered interior. It literally felt like you were in a rocket when it accelerated. Threw you back into the seat and you couldn't sit up. I think the front wheels came off the street. Quite a feat for something with all that weight. I had a 66 Mustang. Wish I had kept it. It would only go to 110mph. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Starise said: The programming over there must have been similar. I liked Baywatch for the girls. That and the underwear section of the Sears catalog were all we had to look at. Kids now don't need an imagination. I liked Star Trek the best. I lived the 70's here and can remember many of my friends driving the kinds of cars that are now high dollar collectors vehicles. Mustangs, Chevy Camaros. The Dodge Cuda...etc. What you probably call petrol and we call gas was around 40-50 cents a gallon if I remember correctly so you could drive a car with a 454 cubic inch engine and 4 barrel carburetor all day long on a less than 10 dollars. Some of those cars only got maybe 10mpg. I wasn't very old. These cars weren't all brand new. They were used school kids cars. My best friend then his dad and brother were car enthusiasts and they built him a 55 Chevy panel wagon. Basically a 55 Chevy with a wagon back. No windows. One of the very first hatch backs. They called them delivery wagons. All high performance parts in it. Metallic blue, black reupholstered interior. It literally felt like you were in a rocket when it accelerated. Threw you back into the seat and you couldn't sit up. I think the front wheels came off the street. Quite a feat for something with all that weight. I had a 66 Mustang. Wish I had kept it. It would only go to 110mph. nice to read this Starise. Personally was more into the 70's beat up simple 4 doors sedans lke a 72 Dodge Polara. Those huge V8's just sound so awesome just idling alone ! My car for the last 7 years (1996 Cherokee) isn't very good on gas either but I don't drive a lot. I can only drive it because there is a specialist garage here with 'normal' bills and parts are cheap. 70's FOREVER !! Edited August 6, 2020 by Sheens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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craigb Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Yep! Had a guy in my high school have his Pinto destroyed in a similar (if less dramatic) fashion! Man it's been a LONG time since I saw that movie too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettelus Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Starise said: Some of those cars only got maybe 10mpg. 351C, was 11 mpg but I put oversized tires on the rear... now 12.5! LOL 21 hours ago, Starise said: It would only go to 110mph. That would be it... 14" rims... need to spin the hell out of small wheels to get any speed. Older vehicles are only really good for the "cool factor"/nostalgia of them. Don't stop/don't steer is pretty accurate of many... the mustang is 4-wheel MANUAL drum brakes (71 was the first year disc brake showed up on the front end, and this wasn't one of them) and only a lap belt... if it weren't a stick shift, it would have already been destroyed... brakes cannot stop it, and you will eat the steering column if you run into anything. Growing up my dad never got rid of old cars... I had asked about fixing up an old 55 Chevy he had and his response was overly practical... "Made of bad metal, heavy, and would under perform pretty much any car sold today (mid-90s)... why go through that trouble??" You want to see a scary video... everyone thinks old cars are "like tanks" but for the 50th anniversary of crash testing, they off-centered a 1959 Bel Air against a 2009 Malibu, and the results were horrific ☹️ Edited August 7, 2020 by mettelus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, mettelus said: 351C, was 11 mpg but I put oversized tires on the rear... now 12.5! LOL That would be it... 14" rims... need to spin the hell out of small wheels to get any speed. Older vehicles are only really good for the "cool factor"/nostalgia of them. Don't stop/don't steer is pretty accurate of many... the mustang is 4-wheel MANUAL drum brakes (71 was the first year disc brake showed up on the front end, and this wasn't one of them) and only a lap belt... if it weren't a stick shift, it would have already been destroyed... brakes cannot stop it, and you will eat the steering column if you run into anything. Growing up my dad never got rid of old cars... I had asked about fixing up an old 55 Chevy he had and his response was overly practical... "Made of bad metal, heavy, and would under perform pretty much any car sold today (mid-90s)... why go through that trouble??" You want to see a scary video... everyone thinks old cars are "like tanks" but for the 50th anniversary of crash testing, they off-centered a 1959 Bel Air against a 2009 Malibu, and the results were horrific ☹️ 2 things I learned here is not to run into a modern car, and we need a car subforum in the coffee house. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Quote Growing up my dad never got rid of old cars... I had asked about fixing up an old 55 Chevy he had and his response was overly practical... "Made of bad metal, heavy, and would under perform pretty much any car sold today (mid-90s)... why go through that trouble??" You want to see a scary video... everyone thinks old cars are "like tanks" but for the 50th anniversary of crash testing, they off-centered a 1959 Bel Air against a 2009 Malibu, and the results were horrific ☹️ Neither did mine. I did all of the work on the 1966 Mustang. Bought it from a cousin for 400.00. It was a straight 6. My dad had a wagon the trans went out in with a good 289 in it he gave me.. I pulled the 289 and put it in the Mustang along with a different transmission and rear end. I painted that car with a pro rig. Installed the sound and exhaust system. Pretty much rebuilt the whole car from the ground up. Lots of validity to the statement that the new cars are better. That Mustang had very flimsy sheet metal. I could pull back on the radio antennae, let it go, and steel in the whole fender would flex back and forth. Cars have come a long way for sure. I was driving a 66 in around 76 so it was 10 years old then. The one thing old cars have going for them is you can service practically anything on them with available tools. With the cars now you need to read the code, look at everything on a computer, try and decide if you can even reach what your trying to work on. I mean. you have to pull the wheel and some of the body away to change a head light bulb in my Murano. It would have been a 5 minute job with the Mustang. Same goes with just about any other repair. The engineers built everything using CAD with no real intention that you might actually need to access it lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Starise said: With the cars now you need to read the code, look at everything on a computer, try and decide if you can even reach what your trying to work on. I mean. you have to pull the wheel and some of the body away to change a head light bulb in my Murano. It would have been a 5 minute job with the Mustang. Same goes with just about any other repair. The engineers built everything using CAD with no real intention that you might actually need to access it lol. Great Points , I have 2 cars . As a couple age wise when you add up both their ages together they are old enough to collect Social Security . One is a 97 Ford Taurus, which means I have to deal w the codes. I hate dealing w the codes only because most shops in my area treat me as if I was a dumb blonde they could easily take advantage of ...they have tried to do so repeatably... I was lucky for 3 years I had a friend that used to help me out w that ...he was an excellent mechanic and he had the correct apps to read the codes ...he also had the brains to methodically know what to test systematically to eliminate false wishful thinking as to what parts need to be changed VS which don't ... More than once we both may have thought it was one thing and after careful methodical trouble shooting and diagnosis on his part he found what the real problem was and we took care of it ... Now he is no longer in the area I dread having to deal w many of the mechanics in my area . My friend fixed most of the stuff they were supposed to fix with one extra thing in his favor ,,,,he got it right ...the mechanics before my friend were wishy washy and their prices were way out of line . I had to do a waver here twice for registration . How it worked was if a car didn't pass emissions or had the engine light on my state at the time allowed me to take it to a mechanic from the states list and attempt to fix the problem ...once you spent over $150 dollars plus to fix the problem you were automatically given the option to get a wavier since you tried to fix your car ...2 times I had these State approved auto shops take my money just a little under $200 and they gave me a receipt that listed the code and what the problem may be ....and the didn't even turn a wrench of try to fix the problem. I'm not kidding man they had me by the short hairs .I asked them did you fix anything and they said no ...that costs extra ..WTF Two times I was lucky enough to have my friend help me get my car to pass ....both times it was as simple as him reading the codes and me buying the $25 to $40 dollar parts and having him put them in for me ...( the shops could have done that and still made a profit $25 dollar part $100 dollars plus labor yeah both times they hit me for close to 2 bills w out even turning a wrench all I got was a phony receipt for work they said they did )Greedy Bastards Eventually The state shut that program down because many of the State Approved auto shops were fleecing everybody with out fixing a thing ... Changing the subject my other car is a Van ..a 1974 Ford Econoline it looks something like this one except mine needs some body work ( I never hit anything w it ,,,it needed the body work when I got it in 1997 ) When I moved where I am now I parked it and kept the tags up to date ...It still runs and I'm seriously considering making this my daily driver again ... I had done a lot of mechanical work to mine yet even though I had done work the general vibe and feel still feels loose compared to a modern car .. Four wheels w drum brakes LOL that alone is a big diff from modern cars ,,,,ah either way I was able to work on it myself , I lived in it on and off plus I was able to make it out here from the East Coast ...I camped out in it in many States .I can honestly say I have lots of memories from when I used this ... I made my Van a promise if it got me out here I would fix it up ...money has been tight yet I have gotten pretty far a long in my promise to fix her up .. time will tell Kenny Edited August 8, 2020 by kennywtelejazz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, kennywtelejazz said: Changing the subject my other car is a Van ..a 1974 Ford Econoline it looks something like this one except mine needs some body work ( I never hit anything w it ,,,it needed the body work when I got it in 1997 ) When I moved where I am now I parked it and kept the tags up to date ...It still runs and I'm seriously considering making this my daily driver again ... I had done a lot of mechanical work to mine yet even though I had done work the general vibe and feel still feels loose compared to a modern car .. Four wheels w drum brakes LOL that alone is a big diff from modern cars ,,,,ah either way I was able to work on it myself , I lived in it on and off plus I was able to make it out here from the East Coast ...I camped out in it in many States .I can honestly say I have lots of memories from when I used this ... I made my Van a promise if it got me out here I would fix it up ...money has been tight yet I have gotten pretty far a long in my promise to fix her up .. time will tell Kenny Hope you can make that supercool Ford van your daily again ! Hearing people complain about repair/service bills for their modern cars. Probably my old car is cheaper even with a welding bill now and then. Also I just like an old 'relic' car more than a new shiny one, new cars all look the same to me anyway. Edited August 8, 2020 by Sheens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, kennywtelejazz said: moved where I am now I parked it and kept the tags up to date ...It still runs and I'm seriously considering making this my daily driver again ... I had done a lot of mechanical work to mine yet even though I had done work the general vibe and feel still feels loose compared to a modern car .. Four wheels w drum brakes LOL that alone is a big diff from modern cars ,,,,ah either way I was able to work on it myself , I lived in it on and off plus I was able to make it out here from the East Coast ...I camped out in it in many States .I can honestly say I have lots of memories from when I used this ... I made my Van a promise if it got me out here I would fix it up ...money has been tight yet I have gotten pretty far a long in my promise to fix her up .. time will tell Kenny Hey Kenny, you know this Youtube channel EricTheCarGuy ? If you'd figure out what parts you'd need to install disc brakes on your van....possibly a supplier would send them for free if Eric would do a video on the brakes swap/install. He's a 76 Ford Fairmont owner/fan so he might really 'dig' your van too (he is in Michigan though I think). Maybe it would be possible to work out a good/fun deal for everyone. If you could get a deal with a brake parts supplier and would send that to Eric he might be interested and give you a good deal... Just dreamin' Anyway, good luck with your cool 74 Ford Econoline ! Edited August 8, 2020 by Sheens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Quote Great Points , I have 2 cars . As a couple age wise when you add up both their ages together they are old enough to collect Social Security . One is a 97 Ford Taurus, which means I have to deal w the codes. I hate dealing w the codes only because most shops in my area treat me as if I was a dumb blonde they could easily take advantage of ...they have tried to do so repeatably... I was lucky for 3 years I had a friend that used to help me out w that ...he was an excellent mechanic and he had the correct apps to read the codes ...he also had the brains to methodically know what to test systematically to eliminate false wishful thinking as to what parts need to be changed VS which don't ... I had a Tauris...well it was really the mercury version called the Sable. It was a loaded up luxury sedan. Took it on a few long trips. Was a daily driver for awhile. Very nice riding car. That 6 cylinder engine had issues that caused the water from the cooling system to get into the engine oil. Aluminum heads cast iron cylinder block. Dissimilar metals didn't expand/contract the same which caused head gasket leaks. Long story short the car I had was bought used from a coworker. About the time I bought it the problem occurred. Couldn't afford to take it to a shop and have the engine pulled. I did the repairs myself. Still remember it in my then girlfriend's dad's driveway in a middle class PA neighborhood. She is now my wife. ...anyways, I did those repairs right there. Pulled the heads, took them to a machine shop to be planed. new head gaskets, torked to specs. Ran great after I did that repair for about 6 months until the transmission started to go in it. Engine was still ok. It would drive but the tranny would jerk when shifting. I wasn't set up to work on automatic transmissions so I decided to drive it like that until it died. It still drove but it had that jerky shift problem.Not really worth the money it would take to fix it. Eventually gave it to my son who drove it until it wouldn't go any more. He was tough on cars. My dad had one of those econolines like yours. His was a good vehicle. I remember the engine compartment being slightly off to the side in it. I had an older one for awhile back in the day. When I bought it used someone had attempted to put a roll away roof over the entire area of the roof in it. The mechanism failed and the rain would leak through it. I decided to replace it with a huge plexiglass window for a roof. This was both good and bad. The good part was you were able to lay in the back on a clear night and see all the stars. The bad news was in Ga. with 100F temperatures and no air conditioning it got hot in there if it wasn't covered. I mean REALLY hot. Could probably have baked cakes in there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBH Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Me and 3 of my friends all had mid 70's Pinto's, back in the late 70's . We used to go ice racing in them.... what a blast. Figuratively speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) On 8/8/2020 at 9:54 AM, Sheens said: Hope you can make that supercool Ford van your daily again ! Hearing people complain about repair/service bills for their modern cars. Probably my old car is cheaper even with a welding bill now and then. Also I just like an old 'relic' car more than a new shiny one, new cars all look the same to me anyway. I would love to get my van to the point where it is functionally and mechanically sound . Every place I lived since I left Cali had a clause in my lease stating I'm not allowed to work on my vehicles on the apt complex property ....The type of work I would need to get done would mean I would have to take my Van someplace safe away from the apt complex to do the work I needed to do . I hate to say it but in my current position it would take my throwing lots of money at it. The thing is I have a sentimental feeling towards this Van because I became homeless in NYC in 95 . I was given the van by someone who thought it was better than sleeping on the street ( something I know I couldn't have done ) It's funny when I got my van it was on it's last legs and beat to hell ...when it was in NY it couldn't make it from Manhattan to the Bronx ...after working on it a bit I rolled the dice and drove it clear across The United Snakes of America in October of 1997 and to my utter shock w both made it ...I had every musical instrument as cargo in there to boot ... Man talk about taking a chance and rolling the dice ...any way I made a promise to the van I plan to keep ...I promised the van I would fix her up ...if she got me out here ...she did now I have to keep my promise to her .... It's got a long way to go before I even think about doing the body work ...but hey I have been doing the best I can under my current circumstances .. On 8/8/2020 at 10:24 AM, Sheens said: Hey Kenny, you know this Youtube channel EricTheCarGuy ? If you'd figure out what parts you'd need to install disc brakes on your van....possibly a supplier would send them for free if Eric would do a video on the brakes swap/install. He's a 76 Ford Fairmont owner/fan so he might really 'dig' your van too (he is in Michigan though I think). Maybe it would be possible to work out a good/fun deal for everyone. If you could get a deal with a brake parts supplier and would send that to Eric he might be interested and give you a good deal... Just dreamin' Anyway, good luck with your cool 74 Ford Econoline ! First I heard of him . It's a long ways from South West WA to where Eric is ...as far as the brakes go yeah front disc brakes would be nice ...the thing is just before I parked my Van I had all 4 brakes done including brand new brake drums ...they will have to do the braking for now .. The 2 things I really have to do ASAP besides buying new rubber are pull the gas tank , have it cleaned out and sealed or replaced , and the killer of all killer things that has held me back is this van has 2 power steering pumps. It has the one up front like most cars but in the back end it has a pump w high pressure hoses . To replace that pump costs over 6 hundred dollars and it is a factory part ...Mine sprung a leak and it needs to be replaced ..they only sell this as a whole unit to my knowledge .When I did drive it I had to keep the front reservoir topped off to have power steering ....it all leaked out if I didn't keep checking ... Either way thanks for wishing me luck ( I'm gonna need it ) LOL Kenny Edited August 12, 2020 by kennywtelejazz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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