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[kyrillos]

Good day everybody
I am trying to play a song that has only (MI) or (E) between natural and  E♭ 
how is it possible to do it. i was trying to understand but i really need someone to explain from scratch.
thank you so much

[Canopus]

31 minutes ago, kyrillos said:

is there something like that in cakewalk guys?

Nope. However, maybe you could use the Melodyne Demo version that comes with CbB and modify the E’s by ear? Make sure all the E's are in one separate MIDI clip like Nigel proposed above and record your MIDI into audio using your orchestral VSTi. Then select the audio clip for this separate track and apply Region FX > Melodyne. In Melodyne, make sure Options > Pitch Grid is set to No Snap so that the notes won’t stick to the twelve tone scale. It should then be possible to tune your E’s into whatever. It’s very clumsy of course, but might be a possible work-around if this is a one-time occurrence.

Edited August 5, 2020 by Canopus
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[kyrillos]

and in this video the DAW does the scales not the plugin

 

[Nigel Mackay]

Cakewalk can't.

[Promidi]

It still sounds like pitch bend might be the answer.

For example, If you wish to play an note that is slightly lower in pitch than a E note (but not quite an Eb), you can put a pitch bend event before the note.

This would be done in the Piano Roll View and ,with the smart tool selected, simply hold down ALT and click in the pitch bend controller lane. 

So if you want to produce a note that is half way between an E and and Eb, (Which numerically is 50 cents), you would put a pitch bend 1 quarter of the minimum value before the note.  If you look in the Event List, the pitch bend event will have a value of -8192 divided by 4, which is 2048). This is assuming your pitch bend range is set to two semitones - which most synths are by default.

Remember, the pitch bend controller lane centres at zero - or no pitch shift.  You might need to remember to place a pitch bend =  0 command after the note.

Also, you might need to use multiple instances of what ever synth plugin you're using (In your case BBC orchestra plugin). This is because there might be an occasion when you are playing a chord, but you only want one note to shift but leave the others unshifted.

The great thing about using pitch bends is that it really would not matter what synth you are using - as long as it responds to pitch bend.  Pitch bend has been part of the MIDI specification since its inception in the mid '80s.

Sounds convoluted , nut once you've done this a few times , it gets easier.

[kyrillos]

@Promidi

Thanks for your reply. is there any toturial you recommend i could view and follow because i followed the steps but still i cant video makes it easier

[Nigel Mackay]

There is no tutorial to cover what you want to do. There are 10 tutorials that show various parts of what needs to be done.

Which method are you trying?

Give us screen shots of your MIDI tracks, instrument tracks, synth rack. We need to see what you have and haven't done.

[kyrillos]

3 minutes ago, Nigel Mackay said:

Give us screen shots of your MIDI tracks, instrument tracks, synth rack. We need to see what you have and haven't done.

i am trying to do but nothing yet. all i have is a midi file that was exported from musescore

[kyrillos]

3 minutes ago, Nigel Mackay said:

3) Check Events, then click Ok.

where is Event situated?

[Nigel Mackay]

Do step 1

Do step 2

You will see Events

[kyrillos]

i am trying i just cant find Events

 

[kyrillos]

thnaks for being patient 
 

[kyrillos]

done .
i highlighted E copied it then deleted everything back and past it at the correct position 

[kyrillos]

yes i did that the above track has no Es and the underneath has only E

[kyrillos]

[Nigel Mackay]

Looks correct for zoomed out. ?

Are you using the free version of BBC Orchestra? The one called Discover?

[kyrillos]

1 hour ago, Nigel Mackay said:

Are you using the free version of BBC Orchestra? The one called Discover?

yes i was waiting two weeks to get it for free

[kyrillos]

? 0,50 worked like charm. thank you so much ?

[Nigel Mackay]

Great.

[User 905133]

45 minutes ago, kyrillos said:

? 0,50 worked like charm. thank you so much ?

Congrats, and kudos to Nigel for figuring out how the VSTi could make it happen!

[Nigel Mackay]

@User 905133 Thanks

@kyrillos  Spitfire LABS (free), has some interesting sounds, and much the same interface as BBC Orchestra, so you will be able to do the same thing with those sounds. Future projects.