musikman1 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I haven't had to use it in a long time, until today. Used to be able to highlight an audio clip and attach a gain envelope by going to Process/Apply Effect/Gain Envelope, but I see that option is changed to just "Gain", and a dialog box pops up instead, which seems to only able to effect the entire clip, or whatever portion of the clip you highlight. That does me no good if I want to create a gradual gain curve up or down. It was a good alternative option instead of having to record automation. I used to be able to insert a gain envelope and see a gain line with nodules across the clip (similar to how an EQ looks), and you could add nodules and increase or decrease gain, or create a gain curve in any area of the clip by dragging up or down on the nodules. Handy little tool for certain situations. Did they do away with that, or is there another way to access that now? I also tried the right click menu, but didn't see anything there either. Thanks! MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) In the track Edit Filter click the down arrow to select Clip Automation and Gain. Clarify Edited March 26, 2020 by Chappel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musikman1 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 Chappel, thank you! ? I had a feeling it was just somewhere else! When I looked it up online CW Documentation I didn't find it there. Glad it's still around, very handy tool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musikman1 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 Ok, hang on a minute. I must not be doing this right......when I use that method, ALL the clips in that track are given a Gain Envelope. I only want to use it on one clip, how is that done? I can't seem to get it. I don't mind if it is destructive, I just want to use a gain envelope on only one clip. Right clicking the clip does me no good, and highlighting just the one clip doesn't do it either, ALL clips still get the gain envelope when I use Clip Automation. There must be a way to isolate the gain envelope to just one clip without affecting the others.... Any help appreciated, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Yes, clip gain envelopes are shown for all clips in the track. Change the clips as needed and ignore the rest. If seeing clip gains on all clips is a problem put the clips that need envelopes in the same lane and use the lane's edit filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, musikman1 said: Ok, hang on a minute. I must not be doing this right......when I use that method, ALL the clips in that track are given a Gain Envelope. I only want to use it on one clip, how is that done? I can't seem to get it. I don't mind if it is destructive, I just want to use a gain envelope on only one clip. Right clicking the clip does me no good, and highlighting just the one clip doesn't do it either, ALL clips still get the gain envelope when I use Clip Automation. There must be a way to isolate the gain envelope to just one clip without affecting the others.... Any help appreciated, thank you! What scook posted is spot-on. Here is a visual aid. This is a blank audio track split into 10 separate clips. Before any changes to the gain envelope it appears as a (mostly) solid line across all the clips. The nodes are more visible because I have increased the vertical size of the track. Here is the same track but I used the Move Tool to move some clip envelopes between the nodes and the Smart Tool to add nodes. I didn't edit the Gain Envelope in the first clip so the gain in that clip would be unaffected by the envelope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musikman1 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 Thanks for the help, and for the JPEGs, much appreciated! This is kinda different than the method I used to use, but it gets the job done. I agree, seems the best way to go is just ignore the other clips that are unaffected, doesn't do any harm to have an envelope waiting there in case it's needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musikman1 Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) I'm wondering how taxing it is on the RAM to have these clip gain envelopes spread throughout a project. I haven't noticed any spikes in CPU meter since adding them. I'm guessing probably not much, no way to tell for sure. Edited March 30, 2020 by musikman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Is there not a function that allows to boost gain by much more than +6dB? I want to amplify some recorded sounds by much more than that, how can I do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 The destructive function in the Process menu called Gain may be applied as many times as needed. For nondestructive gain increases stack empty FX Chains in the FX Rack or use the Blue Cat gain plug-ins (part of Blue Cat's Freeware Plug-ins Pack II) to add up to 60 dB of gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Base 57 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Or just use Normalize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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