micv Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 In CbB is there a way to get the tempo of an imported audio file? or is there a tool out there for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Set the Edit Filter to Transients, right-click the clip and choose Edit Clip Tempo Map. Average tempo is shown at the bottom of the clip. It may often be off by a factor of two. Play the track and verify that the downbeat markers are aligning roughly with the downbeat transients. If not, choose one of the alternate tempos from the dropdown. If all you want is that average tempo, you can just change the Edit Filter back to Clips. Edited March 19, 2020 by David Baay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantarbill Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 MixMeister Bpm Analyzer can do that. I have an ancient freebie version from 2004 that has a pretty simple user interface. You open the app, drag an audio file onto it and it tells you what the BPM is. They now seem to have a much more feature rich version for a whopping $3.99... http://www.mixmeister.com/bpm.php Note that my 16 year old version still does what it was supposed to do...so I haven't upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 @dantarbill Is this an average for the whole song or does it show the tempo changes? t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Wilson Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 21 hours ago, David Baay said: Set the Edit Filter to Transients, right-click the clip and choose Edit Clip Tempo Map. Average tempo is shown at the bottom of the clip. It may often be off by a factor of two. Play the track and verify that the downbeat markers are aligning roughly with the downbeat transients. If not, choose one of the alternate tempos from the dropdown. If all you want is that average tempo, you can just change the Edit Filter back to Clips. If you have Melodyne, just drag the file to the timeline and Melodyne will set the tempo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micv Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 I can't seem to find where the 'Set the Edit Filter to Transients" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micv Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 46 minutes ago, DeeringAmps said: @dantarbill Is this an average for the whole song or does it show the tempo changes? t would be great if it shows where the tempo change as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Sorrels Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Melodyne ARA tempo extraction https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=NewFeatures.036.html CbB and Melodyne together do a pretty nice job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 It wasn't clear that the OP actually wanted to have the project tempo reset to the clip tempo; just that he wanted to know the clip tempo. That's one reason I suggested Audiosnap. Also, if the clip was recorded to a click, I would recommend just setting the project tempo to that average tempo to avoid complications that can result when Melodyne inserts a tempo changes at every 8th note with interpolated changes of a fraction of a bpm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, micv said: I can't seem to find where the 'Set the Edit Filter to Transients" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Matthew Sorrels said: CbB and Melodyne together do a pretty nice job Yes, except 1 hour ago, David Baay said: Melodyne inserts a tempo change at every 8th note with interpolated changes of a fraction of a bpm t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Sorrels Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, DeeringAmps said: Yes, except Doesn't seem to happen for me. Does it depend on which version of Melodyne you have perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micv Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, David Baay said: that works for average tempo. thx Interesting how it also gives other tempo in the drop down list, not sure what they are, and as you warned, double tempo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Matthew Sorrels said: which version of Melodyne Studio, that's the upgrade to what we got with Sonar, right? t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Matthew Sorrels said: Doesn't seem to happen for me. Does it depend on which version of Melodyne you have perhaps? It may not happen with a recording that has a very tight tempo. I checked, and in that case, Melodyne may set a single constant tempo. But it if detects a little drift, it can get a little carried away inserting changes in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 5 hours ago, micv said: Interesting how it also gives other tempo in the drop down list, not sure what they are, and as you warned, double tempo. It's making a best guess at what the tempo is, and offering various multiples and fractions of that guess that might also fit. Melodyne also does this, and also often defaults to half or double the actual tempo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantarbill Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 1:58 PM, micv said: would be great if it shows where the tempo change as well The ancient version I have only gives you a single value, which may or may not be an average. The more recent, paid for version might support tempo changes. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 7:25 PM, David Baay said: Set the Edit Filter to Transients, Quote right-click the clip and choose Edit Clip Tempo Map. Average tempo is shown at the bottom of the clip. It may often be off by a factor of two. Play the track and verify that the downbeat markers are aligning roughly with the downbeat transients. If not, choose one of the alternate tempos from the dropdown. If all you want is that average tempo, you can just change the Edit Filter back to Clips. Double left-click the clip ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Yes, double-clicking opens the Audiosnap Palette which is another way in too Edit Clip Map. The Palette also shows the average tempo and allows you to change it directly, but you really need to see the beat markers in the clip map to know which tempo is correct, unless you already have a good idea what it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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