bayoubill Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 This was posted by Laura Dallam who works at Pennington Biomedical Research Center. It's a great explanation. I wish the news had talked about this earlier instead of all the sensationalism and scare tactics. This makes sense. Stay safe and isolate as much as you can. Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand... It has to do with RNA sequencing.... i.e. genetics. Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot. Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off. Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be.. H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too. Fast forward. Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery” This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it. And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs.. That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine. We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu. Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation... And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 [Note for those that love to do knee-jerk reactions and parrot whatever they've heard on mass media: Just ignore this reply, it's not meant for you.] While a nice story, the version I've been reading about behind the scenes is quite a bit different. Yes, it's "novel," but scientists have already noticed that it includes sequences that are not natural - i.e., they were man-made. Therefore, this is a "weaponized" strain (which explains why it's soooo much more contagious than others). I'm hearing that this exact strain has been around since 1982. Yes, it was developed outside of China (most likely in the U.S.). However, while it was being researched at Canada's only Level-4 biolab, samples were stolen by undercover Chinese agents posing as legitimate employees. These ended up in two biolabs, coincidentally in Wuhan and, even more coincidentally, with one funded by the Soros Foundation. (Side-note: A biolab in Sierra Leone that is funded by both the Soros Foundation and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is under investigation in regards to the 2014 Ebola outbreak in Africa.) Another interesting point: An outbreak simulation of this exact strain of Coronavirus was performed in September only two months before the actual outbreak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayoubill Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 Thanks Craig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 33 minutes ago, bayoubill said: I wish the news had talked about this earlier instead of all the sensationalism and scare tactics. I suspect the news did this because they want to reach as wide an audience as possible; there are probably some people who might not understand that explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) . Edited March 19, 2020 by Sheens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 More news... *Sigh...* ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Sheens said: . Three hours later... . . . . . . . . . Next day... .................. ......................... ............................... ......................... .................. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswitz Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 With respect, i don't believe the gates foundation is evil. I've read a lot. I've visited. Nothing I've seen suggests this might be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofmany Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Craig is correct. Being from Winnipeg, MB in Canada, we are home to the level 4 lab. Yes, there was an incident involving Chinese lab workers, and visiting Chinese lab students who were evicted by the rcmp. The lab workers were caught attempting to mail samples of pathogens (not this one) to China, where they had recently opened a new virology lab in Wuhan. Of course it is common knowledge that when a thief is caught, it isn't usually their first theft, just the first one that they are caught doing. The lab workers were deported, an investigation was underway and then everything went hush hush in the news here. 6 months later and.... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswitz Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Do you have links for why the gates foundation is under investigation in Sierra Leone? I can't find it on snopes or general searches. Too much similar but not useful stuff to dig through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettelus Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 These situations are much more prevalent than people realize. Many visiting scholars and academics are recruited specifically (either prior to, or while actively visiting) for the purpose of stealing IP or samples outright for their native government. Although one country is getting more press for this recently, they are certainly not the only ones doing it... and it has been going on for a long time. https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/medical-student-harvard-accused-smuggle-research-china/2055635/ Ironically, this one was intercepted on home turf for bringing her infection home... https://www.yicaiglobal.com/news/biogen-fires-chinese-worker-who-fled-us-with-a-trail-of-covid-19-cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 So the story about the virus jumping from a snake to humans wasn't true? ? Lincoln didn't make statements on the internet? ? I would laugh but I suspected as much and I guess it isn't really funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 any news on who ordered Kennedy killing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofmany Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, pwalpwal said: i love a good conspiracy theory - do you have some links to that reading that you did? Posted one link to our national news above. Otherwise for me, it's simply knowing people in the know who work there. It was being worked on here, along with ebola and other nasties. As far as the soros Sierra Leone connection, that is conjecture to me at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 3:03 PM, craigb said: Three hours later... . . . . . . . . . Next day... .................. ......................... ............................... ......................... .................. ? There can only be one . Kenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 That reminds me... It's been a while since I've watched the Highlander movies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensconced Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Sheens said: any news on who ordered Kennedy killing ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 11:03 PM, craigb said: Three hours later... . . . . . . . . . Next day... .................. ......................... ............................... ......................... .................. ? Craigs, any knews on dad Earthquak coming ? (just for the lulz and gas Bapu seems needs some action) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheens Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 5 hours ago, ensconced said: Day found the one yet who killed Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman ? It was not O.J. Simpson according to the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalle Rantaaho Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 10:21 PM, craigb said: [Note for those that love to do knee-jerk reactions and parrot whatever they've heard on mass media: Just ignore this reply, it's not meant for you.] While a nice story, the version I've been reading about behind the scenes is quite a bit different. Yes, it's "novel," but scientists have already noticed that it includes sequences that are not natural - i.e., they were man-made. Therefore, this is a "weaponized" strain (which explains why it's soooo much more contagious than others). I'm hearing that this exact strain has been around since 1982. Yes, it was developed outside of China (most likely in the U.S.). However, while it was being researched at Canada's only Level-4 biolab, samples were stolen by undercover Chinese agents posing as legitimate employees. These ended up in two biolabs, coincidentally in Wuhan and, even more coincidentally, with one funded by the Soros Foundation. (Side-note: A biolab in Sierra Leone that is funded by both the Soros Foundation and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is under investigation in regards to the 2014 Ebola outbreak in Africa.) Another interesting point: An outbreak simulation of this exact strain of Coronavirus was performed in September only two months before the actual outbreak. (I ignore the first line, sorry) So you don't find it ridicilous that someone would design a virus-weapon that kills too slowly, spreads uncontrollably to friends and foes, etc. There are also lots of scientists who have confirmed 100% that the virus is not man made. In general, I think conspiracy theories are just one version of toilet paper hoarding - you feel more in control, as if you were actually doing something hatching the plots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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