InstrEd Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Notes_Norton said: Those are the ones I call "TROUBLE Clefs" Notes Those are the ones I need a drink! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Notes_Norton said: Those are the ones I call "TROUBLE Clefs" Notes The Clefs of Do-over? (Yes, I do my part and recycle my jokes. Deal with it! ? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddskins Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 13 hours ago, antler said: I find the treble clef easier to read as well, but that might be to do with the fact that I first learned to read music that used the treble clef exclusively. Thing is though, the centre 'spiral' of the treble clef doesn't just denote the line its on to be G, it means it's the G above middle C: two staffs using the treble clef (even if glued together) would suggest that both melodies should be played in the same octave, although you could use the octave modifier. Exactly. Or whatever new "rule" would be necessary to the purists out there, to designate the lower set of lines as the "bass". The point being that using the same notes for the respective staff lines, would make reading the two stalves far easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Notes_Norton said: Those are the ones I call "TROUBLE Clefs" Nope! ? ?? The top two are the Trouble clefs, see below. I think that they are some sort of recorder (Blockflöte) rather than the flute we know. The other scores are marked "Traverso". The next two, so I'm told, are " Violinschlussel." (pronounced "vee-oh-leen-sh-luss-ehl". Edited January 19, 2020 by JohnG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Having two ledger lines between the staves might be confusing, especially with handwritten charts. Let me see, is that a C or an A, is it closer to the treble or bass clef? And would you put the B below the C ledger or above the A ledger? But I still agree, it would be easier for me who only occasionally has a reason to read the bass clef. And if any instrument needs one of the TROUBLE clefs, I don't want to learn to read on that one. Bites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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