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Very sad news. Good luck for the future.

@Reid Rosefelt Great work Reid! You must have put in a lot of work for this. Lots of useful tips and ideas to improve workflow. A must watch for Emvoice owners especially but also for anyone considering a vocal synthesis library purchase. I think the AI version of Eleanor Forte is more recent (Dec 21) than the non-AI (2018). I have both and, as expected, the AI Lite version is a significant improvement over the non-AI Lite version.

Good to know. Almost no brainer with the coupon!

Yup and it's for Kontakt Player for anyone who doesn't have full Kontakt. I'm loving all these huge discounts on Sample Logic libraries. Quality stuff!

Here's the initial test I did. It's just the first verse and chorus of True Colors (based on the Cyndi Lauper version). This is the Eleanor AI Lite and Synth V Basic version --> https://soundclick.com/r/s8jv82 This is the Solaria and Synth V Pro version --> https://soundclick.com/r/s8ker8 These are mixed in CbB with my usual treatment on vocal tracks (Fabfilter compression, eq and some de-essing). I use the CA-2A on the vocal bus and a send for reverb. When you look at the waveforms in CbB for each vocal track the thing that stands out is that Solaria is much more dynamic. I can definitely see me buying some more AI voicebanks and even Eleanor Forte AI seems to bring a different tone to the table. Here's a song by one of the BIAB forum regulars on SoundCloud which features both Eleanor Forte AI and Solaria. https://soundcloud.com/dcuny/the-gates-of-babylon I will probably watch it anyway as your videos are always worth a watch ???

I appreciate it guys. I bought the Kilohearts Ultimate Toolbox a few months ago and always intended to Unify Phase Plant, but there was an issue with handling the macros in Phase Plant (I won't go into the technical details here). It turns out that there's an undocumented feature in Unify which would have made it much easier. So I was planning to Unify it on Friday, but another guy on the PG Forum stepped in and volunteered to do it. I have to say that he has done a great job and even included all of the macro names from Phase Plant on every preset.

Hi Reid, I think your analysis is fair, but I just thought I would add something as I have now jumped in and bought Synth V Pro along with Solaria and Ryo voicebanks. I guess I would fall into the category of someone who would like to "push the envelope on what a virtual voice can do". My own voice is just okay, and is not likely to improve as I get older. So having male/female demo singers available to sing my songs as realistically as possible with the least effort seems the way to go for me. After buying SV Pro and the voicebanks I thought it might be interesting to simply replace Eleanor Forte AI Lite with Solaria in one of my early SV projects, to see if I could tell much difference. Let's just say that I'm still trying to pick my jaw off the floor I have been following the improvements in SV and AI voicebanks for months, but I honestly didn't expect such a difference between the lite and Pro versions. Maybe some of the differences are to do with them being different voicebanks idk. Something I have discovered is the Auto Pitch Tuning feature which I had initially ignored thinking it was like Autotune/Melodyne. What it seems to do is to make the rise to the start of notes and the drop at the end of notes sound more realistic like a human would sing. Some of the results sound so realistic and, even where the notes are actually slightly out of tune, that in itself makes it sound more realistic. Anyway, I will look forward to watching your video.

Also available are my newly Unified GForce Minimonsta, Unified Waldorf Largo and updated Dune 3.5 factory libraries. You can also still get Tone2 Saurus 3 and updated Pigments 3.5 Unifed factory libraries which I Unified last week. Another user has also Unified the Phase Plant factory library (some minor changes to make to it but it's very useable as is). Download links are here... https://www.pluginguru.com/products/unify-standard/ More details in yesterday's livestream where Skippy also demonstrates some of the new features in the new version of Unify, 1.8 which is due out on Thursday.

Good point, thanks ??

That's cheapest I can find it so far. Xils Labs have it for 89 EUR Some of those demos do sound gorgeous (e.g. Through The Flames To The Ocean (Adam Borseti)) but I have Cherry Polymode which is probably good enough for me. https://www.xils-lab.com/products/polym-p-160.html#

Thanks for the recommendations Fleer. I really love Phase Plant but some of the more EDM focussed banks are really not my cup of tea. I own Tremor and the Grattis 2021 freebie, but I was tempted by Animus, Suspension or maybe the Andrew Huang one (enjoy his YouTube channel).

Yup, it was actually quite fun. I'm like you - tweak existing presets rather than start from scratch. I must do more. ? Good idea ??

Done! Yes the instructions were pretty clear. I used the pictures to check that my cables looked the same at the end (different colours though). Also, I had a stuck note after connecting the amp output which cleared after reloading the patch (there is also a free MIDI panic module). Only another 39 to go ?

@abacab I missed that one! Thanks for sharing. Now I know what I'll be doing on Sunday ?

The free version is standalone only Reid. The Pro version includes a plugin version as well as standalone. Here's a more up-to-date comparison of Pro vs Basic...

Voicebanks are quite small. For example, Eleanor AI voicebank is around 26Mb. As for the synth itself, SV Basic/Pro specs says it requires 1Gb for one voicebank but it's 44Mb on my system. You can download the demos from the link above to get an idea.

Ya got me Fleer! Done up like a kipper.

That's exactly what I had in mind ?. Although I am exploring all of the great Kontakt libraries at the moment with Wotja driving it. Something that sounds universally great is a Wotja ambient preset pointing at Amadeus Symphony patch!

Yes, you can get the SV Basic free version and Lite voicebanks from here (scroll to bottom of the page) ---> https://dreamtonics.com/en/synthesizerv/

Thanks Larry! I've been waiting for a sale to grab SV Pro and I'll probably go with either Ryo or Kevin so that I have a solid male voicebank to accompany Solaria (from https://www.eclipsedsounds.com/ ). Here's a demo of Kevin... and Ryo (he can also sing in English) ...and Qing Su, a native Chinese female AI voice singing in English.

Oh no! I've just spotted there's a trial version - be a shame not to, eh?

I figured you had the "divil" in you in your post, although I am tempted by that EDM Country content ? (not) I saw that MYST post as well and it brings back memories of spending A LOT of time on that one. Unfortunately, I have zero time for games these days and have a lot that I haven't even installed. Actually, that's not quite true - I've been teaching my daughter chess on a real chessboard!

Yeah, it's not ideal but I think of it as a workaround if worse comes to worse. Even at this price I'm wondering if I really need it as I have Vybz which does similar things.

You would also still be able to run VST2s in a VST3 wrapper app, something like Kushview Element, DDMF Metaplugin or PG Unify (assuming that they carried on supporting VST2).

Good spot! Never seen it this cheap.