Keni

Hmmm... I'm using Safari here, but I think I'm running ios 10.3.3? I wonder if that matters. Have you been able to access this forum from ios before or has this always been the case?

Yup... That's what I see too. Enabling it displays all clip envelopes of kind for the track and all default to 0 until edited

I'm replying from my ipad right now. works fine. I've not had any problem here but i'm still running ios 10.xx so maybe?

Actually it's pretty easy, create a track immediately below the last lane select each clip you wish to move hold down shift-click and dragging one of the selected from the lowest lane to move all while constraining the movement to keep the time locked. (Ctrl-shift-click to drag copy instead of move if you wish to lave the original track for archiving) when using shift-click to constrain, note that if you move left/right it will constrain track/lane or up/down to constrain time.

I must be missing something. if you use Clip Envelopes, they copy/move with your clips. that said, if you use copy special and select envelopes, it will copy that portion of the track envelope.

Hi micv... you have that choice. Select clip envelope followed by type. Track envelopes are intentionally for track.

Thanks Noel! I disliked Lanes for quite some time, but now find it quite easy to work with other than the viewing/zoom issues, so here's hoping some progress happens in this direction soon. For me, that would clear up the issue...

Hmmm... How could it know the tuning standard of the source if the source is askew?

Thanks once again scook! this may solve my current dilemma! happy new year! Wishing you the very best!

Trying to get the tempo/pitch stretch to work. I've gone back as far as 8.5 on a vista 32bit install. plugin manager shows it active and i manually added it to my menus as it appears in none. ...but it is not in the menu when i try to use it. is there any way to correct this? thanks!

Happy New Year to ALL!

That is strange. I'm guessing the different algos have disceet reasoning behind them. Melodyne seems to discreetly consider many aspects separately and differently. All documented of course. for me most of the issues are of little importance as i really use pitch correction for small location edits. I don't auto correct anything. So my primary focus is on those tools, but it is still daunting. V-Vocal is far easier and requires almost zero learning curve.

Odd... i found stretch.ax and .hlp in my sonar platinum folder. i could not get regsvr32 to register it. i booted an old machine with vista32 and as far back as sonar 8.5 opening plugin manager shows stretch as active though it is not in any fx menus so i added to a menu and saved it, but it still doesn't show in the menu... any idea what's going on? thanks

Thanks Marled... I'll give this a try today. i wish i had the original tape as i still own a deck with varispeed, but i was given a file. i previously did this for another cluent/friend as i had the tape and did the transfer. The issue there was simple as the original tape was 3.75ips but my deck only does 7.5/15ips. Varispeed wouldn't go that far so i digitized it at 7.5, stretched to 200%, then transposed the octave. but in this case, the digitized file is by some unkown amount less than that. Maybe tape stretch or recoded on dying batteries or such. Using a piano i determind the pitch center to be close to Bb on the first tune and found it to sound more natural near f#/g. Guessing the feel/sound of the guitar lead be to believe g is probably right. But when i use melodyne it shows the pitch near d? Weird! the recording is also extremely muddy. Recorded from a less than optimum location... difficult... thanks. I forget about the stretch plugin...

Good idea, except i can't tell the correct time value while it sounds chipmunk. i just tried a few more attempts and i'm burnt for the night. Too many problems with a 2 hour recording that has little clarity to begin with. Tomorrow i'll try again with fresh ears... thanks for the help.

Thanks noynekker... you might notice my post in that thread immediately beliw Craig's first 3... Sadly, trying to stretch the pitch separately from tempo has been less than optimum and this recording is two long sets of songs so the issues are difficult. melodyne free standing does a decent job of pitch shift for it but time stretch not so good as it doesn't average tempo so there are many serious fluctuations that occur... right now i'm missing the good old days when stretching affected both pitch/tempo in relative ratio...

Thanks... i guess i'll continue to work without audacity then... it's supposed to be easy to do in melodyne's universal mode but so far i'm not having any luck figuring it out. i've been using v-vocal all this time as melodyne essentials doesn't have the tools i needed and it eas very simple. I upgraded to assistant the other day and finally editor today but other than my normal pitch editing, the myriad of melodyne tools, options, and methodology i find it a bit difficult...

Thanks John. yeah, funny how things that used to be "normal" are now so hard to do. i do have melodyne which i just upgraded to editor but the learning curve there is daunting. I've been on this for a few days now. i can stretch the audio in CbB and then use transpose, but trying to get the values to coincide is currently beyond my math. ...and using this method I must do each song individually. There are two long sets. If only stretch would do both i could easily repeat the process n one song until the pitch matches the known pitch of the song, then apply that percentage to the entire 2 set recording... How good is audacity results? I could d/l a copy and use that?

Thanks John, but how do I make it shift audio as well as tempo? Currently, stretching with it slows the tempo of the track, but not alter the pitch.

Ok... This seems to be far more difficult than it used to be. i have a file that was digitized from an old tape recording. I don't know who or how, but both the tempo and pitch is too fast/high. i used to simply stretch the clip and both tempo/pitch adjusted relatively, but now only tempo changes. i've been trying to do this now using melodyne, but as a very new melodyne user, the learning curve is daunting. is there some simple method in CbB that allows the pitch to change with the stretch? thanks...

I have been consistently asking for items to allow the ease I had with layers. Right now, I find it as easy comfortable for my normal workflow. ...except for zoom issues and such. I spend far too much time getting to a workable zoom. Why must the track be emphasized larger than the lanes when they are open for editing? If I lasso/select multiple clips in lanes why must me resulting zoom have a tall track and shorter lanes when I wanted nly the lanes to begin with. Why must I be forced to see the selected/promoted clips on the track while editing clips? Yes, it makes it easy to see which are the selected, but confuses my eye and more so if I have lanes open on more than one track. oops... sorry, I didn't mean to push this thread into my old complaints, but it's always on my mind and in my face.

Just to make note. Assistant does not do polyphonic note editing. DNA access is required which only comes with editor & studio.

Thanks. I'll look now for sure. I thought assistant had complete feature set for monophonic editing, but editor up for polyphonic. I guess I read the table wrong last time i looked. I'm planning on editor but i need a ride to town to put more cash on my prepaid card. I decided to buy assistant as it's a step in the right direction and reduces the next upgrade fee whether while the sale is on or after. I'm off to re-read the comparison list in you link. thanks for the heads up!

Thanks Guys! Excellent news. The way I would hope it to be. Now hoping for getting more cash on my card in time for the editor upgrade special. I've been using V-Vocal most often as essentials is lacking in features I need/use regularly. I believe assistant brings those tools so I will be able to switch (with a bit of learning curve. I'm fast with V-Vocal) and I continue to dream of polyphonic editing with editor!

Ahhh... That's what I was remembering. Thanks for the confirmation. I remembered seeing essentials somewhere in the CbB update process. So all I need do is ignore it once I upgrade to one of the paid versions and always follow the update notices only from melodyne? That sounds simple enough... Will this result in two separate installs or will the paid overwrite the bundled? Here's hoping the current issues are resolved soon as well as updating CbB to ARA2?