Quinellipe Zorn

I see no urgency to find out more about the coming commercial model. Now or 6 months or a year from mow, so long as until then the software continues to at least function as it does today.

While that's cool to express, personally I believe I've gotten so much value out of CbB compared to the cost of my email information and having paid again for Sonar many years ago that $200 for no change at all except for a financially-based right to use with clear terms is just fine.

What generative AI features will be added? (JUST kidding/commenting on the AI-everywhere hype, not actually making any comments on generative AI or the like, nor implying any sort of thoughts at all re Sonar and AI).

I want to add: I was not so interested in Cakewalk when Gibson ran it and was uncommitted. ONLY with Bandlab's curation and in particular not only fixing bugs but improving the software, after years of neglect and what I would even characterize as abuse, did I come fully back to using Cakewalk/"CbB". If Bandlab had treated this like "any" software and hadn't committed not only to the software but even the customer base and prior valued designers/engineers, and shown an interest in making up for the history and catering to unusual expectations, I doubt I'd be engaged now.

But, and I'm only curious here, do you believe that the company (in this case Bandlab) should expect its user base to have the same fine parsing / respect of legalism that you have of this, as opposed to accept that popular perception will see them as inheriting all aspects (however unfairly)? At least/especially when said company expresses itself via a famed brand name (i.e. Cakewalk in this case)?

Although I really like this, I can see any organization not tolerating the complexity of this. I would be highly conflicted were I an internal architect working on this, and would depend primarily, therefore, on the company strategy. If the company is product-centric, it probably isn't a good idea, I believe. But if a company is customer-centric, I think it is worth embracing the complexity.

Wow. Nope.

Just to give my own input to Bandlab, I'd like to see both a subscription model and the prior ownership model. I don't see subscriptions as bad, I see them as "a" viable option, the ideal company providing both "ownership"/perpetual licensing and "rental"/temporary licensing models.

I missed the "feature" of "Sonar specific Plug-ins". Not a fan of proprietary/DAW company-sponsored singular platform plugins. No disrespect to the greatness of the Cakewalk strip!

I'm just curious what purpose CbB fulfilled for you?

I feel like Cakewalk's UX is rather cemented, it's hard to imagine Bandlab, having made their DAW entry on the Cakewalk crowd, from departing radically from the trad UX. I've used Cubase and Logic, as well as PARIS for a long time, ended up back with Cakewalk/Sonar after ~15 years of barely using it, and while it's radically transformed from its pre-audio/MIDI-only days, I have to say its paradigm remained/remains familiar - and, to me, likable, though that's just preference. I suppose it has something to do with its Windows-related UI.

Same; I'm an OLD user of Cakewalk, back from the '90s before it was "Sonar", and frankly bringing back the Sonar name gives me no comfort in and of itself BUT I have really appreciated how Bandlab not only kept the old DAW alive but even made it more reliable as well as even improved it. I'm also encouraged that Bandlab is going full-throttle with Cakewalk/Sonar, betting their DAW/music production future on it. That said, it's been an amazing benefit not paying for updates to CbB so that I could invest in more video as well as audio plugins and software, will miss that!

Just wanted to say thanks so much for this @abacab , that tool is great, and of course thanks to @czyky (I'm guessing that's the same person on here as there, who authored it) ! Amazing! Will help me review for VSTs in preparation to probably de-subscribe from a particular provider, and anyway great info whenever needed. Here we are in 2023 and STILL working with new projects!

Just mentioning I'm here looking for the solution to the same problem, which also started recently. I would have thought maybe 1-2 months ago but could be 3. At first, for quite a while, I assumed it was due to a specific plugin in a project as for quite a while I was working on just that, then as I moved on to other things I realized it just happens all the time. At least for me, it's still playing audio for about those 7 seconds when I press stop, then the audio stops after 7 seconds and control returns to UI. No issues with recording or such; I don't recall changing any parameters.

FYI to anyone researching Ovox and Cakewalk issues, per Waves, "The latest version of OVox is not compatible with Cakewalk. We are working on making it compatible soon. " However, the demo worked fine in Cakewalk - I only had problems once I purchased and updated it! (Even then, it still basically works EXCEPT that I can't save a project with Ovox active, the project cannot then be opened. So I have to bounce/render any audio once I determine a desirable effect and then leave Ovox off, saving a preset of where I left off if I want to later change it.)