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Future - Golden Earring

Down St. Thomas Way - Mark Murphy's vocal take on a Sonny Rollins' St. Thomas with a great sax solo by Richie Cole

Storm At Sunup - Gino Vannelli

The family that bathes together, slays together.

Mechanical World - Spirit Some nice music from the psychedelic era

Happy New Year y'all. How did you bring in 2020? Did you stay up to greet the new year or welcome it in the morning? Do you even care? (Yes I know the date is arbitrary) I did what I have done every year since I was 18, gigged and at the stroke of midnight, played "Auld Lang Syne" in the key of F concert (C on my tenor sax). That is every year but one when an agent double-booked us and we lost the "coin toss". Last night it was for a group of mostly crazy and wonderful French Canadians who are escaping the cold temperatures by spending the winter here in Florida. They hit the dance floor on the first song, and it wasn't empty again until we packed up our gear. When we were done we got hugs, hand-shakes, and those European two cheek kisses. It was so much fun we played 4 hours straight without a break. And at the end of the night the RV park paid us money and asked us to come back next year - bonne année. Today I get to spend the day with my dear wife who is also my best friend, the better singer in our duo, and a fine guitar and synth player. Just living the dream. Notes

On the CD player is Dvorak's Symphony #9 with Neeme Jarvi conducting. It just seems right to start the new year with the New World Symphony.

Tezza, eat what you want, and I'm glad it works for you. I'm at the agree to disagree phase, as the discussion is going nowhere. This will be my last response. Peace to you and I truly wish you good health. Bob

Tezza: As I said, I'm glad you are happy with your diet, and I'm happy with mine. Yours seems best for you and mine seems best for me. I hope we can agree on that. If not, there is no need to discuss it any further. We can just agree to disagree. If vegan cured your problems Tezza, I'm happy for you. Strict Atkins/Keto cured mine so I hope you are happy for me. Before Atkins/Keto I was hugely overweight and frequently sick. Now I'm not. If one diet was best for everybody, there would only need to be one diet book. Dictionary definitions: Omnivore: one that is omnivorous Omnivorous: feeding on both animal and vegetable substances You may not like it, but if you eat animal and vegetable food, you are an omnivore. You can call yourself a vegetarian, but you aren't. Around here we have a huge lagoon that when the Spanish came, they thought was a river. To this day it's called "The Indian River" but that doesn't make it a river. It's still a lagoon. Tomatoes are called vegetables, and you can call it a veggie all you like but it's still a fruit. A person who eats veggies plus dairy or fish and call themselves a vegetarian, but they are still omnivores. *** I can't stand the smell of cooking cabbage or broccoli, so the fact that some can't stand the smell of meat doesn't prove anything. We all have likes and dislikes. You don't go to places that serve big slabs of meat, and I do. I don't go to places that smell bad to me, but that usually involves the aforementioned veggies and strong onion smells. *** Yes I know a good rancher, and this area is full of them. I've grown up in Florida, the second biggest beef state in the USA and I've been on at least a dozen ranches. I've seen the contented cows grazing on pasture more times than I could count. Plus when I eat beef it's 100% grass fed and organic. I'm sure there are bad ranchers too. There are good farmers and bad ones, some over-apply cancerous insecticides and herbicides to their vegetables just to increase crop yield. Some GMO corn has insecticides spliced into their DNA. This is cruel to human animals. The thing is; you can't classify all ranchers as bad and all farmers as good. Binary thinking isn't real. The world is full of shades of grey. *** By trying to get others to quit eating meat you become the perpetrator of vegan bullying, what this thread is all about. Please don't do that anymore. Can't you live your life your way and be happy with your diet, without forcing your "religious" views on others? Live and let live. Let each person pursue his or her happiness. The thing I stress is that you are right for you, but your right is not the gospel truth and is not right for everybody else. I'm not trying to convert any vegan to become an omnivore or a carnivore. I've never heard of a carnivore trying to convert vegans into becoming an omnivore. Why is it then it's always the vegans and omnivores that call themselves vegetarians that are trying to convince others to join their cult? It sounds like "My religion is the only true religion and you must convert or you will face eternal damnation." Steve: You make some good points about cooking food. The human brain started to increase in capacity when we started cooking meat (fossil evidence). There is a theory that is widely accepted but of course not proven that cooking meat whas the cause of that intelligence. *** Humans have been hunter-gatherers every since they evolved into humans. There are 7 nutrients you can't get from veggies. I choose to be an omnivore. That's fine for me. Others choose their own way of eating. That's fine for them. Peace, Bob

Warning: I've posted this before, but although I try to avoid repeats, sometimes you just gotta do it. God Gave Rock And Roll To You - Argent Nice tune, IMO worthy of a repeat

"You Can't Lose What You Never Had" - Muddy Waters One of my favorite Muddy songs.

Someday My Prince Will Come - Snow White (voiced by Adriana Caselotti)

First of all, I'm glad your diet is working for you. If there were one best diet for everyone, there would only need to be one diet book. I'll take the selected points above in order: 1) It's not propaganda. I have done serious scientific inquiry on this, mostly from peer reviewed scientific studies published in reputable medical journals. In addition my brother-in-law is a surgeon, my sister-in-law is an operating room nurse and they help me know where to look plus offer their own opinions. The 7 nutrients vegans can't get on a veggie diet are facts. The enzymes that are in human bodies are facts, and some are for digesting meat. You say you can take B12 supplements? Doesn't that prove to yourself that eating meat is normal? If if weren't for supplements, which haven't been around that long, they would all have a B12 deficiency, which is serious and could be fatal. So when you take your B12 to stay alive, you are taking something that only naturally occurs in meat and dairy. I might add that there are only two studies that prolong the life of apes, monkeys and rats in the lab that can be reproduced by others (that's what peer review is about). The first is a very low carbohydrate and low calorie diet. You can't be low carb eating most fruits and root veggies. The idea behind this diet is for your pancreas to excrete minimal amounts of insulin (which is necessary but bad for you). The second is using Alpha Lipoic Acid along with Acetys L-Carnitine, both meat products. It adds up to 14% to the life span of apes, monkey,s and lab rats. If you substitute the plant version, Alpha Linoleic Acid, it doesn't extend anything and there is no substitute for Carnitine.. 2) if you eat dairy, fish or chicken you are not really a vegetarian but an omnivore. Which plant does the milk, cheese, fish, or chicken grow on? 3) I totally agree with you on not torturing animals. I do not eat chicken as they are penned in tiny cages with beak and nails removed, nor do I eat lobster in those tanks with their claws taped shut. I eat 100% grass fed beef, so they live a peaceful life without out wild predators, and then killed in a humane way. I know ranchers here in Florida. One does 100% grass fed beef, and he is both a good steward and an ecologist. His cows graze on the range for their entire lives and when sent to a slaughterhouse designed by Temple Grandin. There is no stress, the kill is instant and painless, and the other cows don't see it. Google her. BTW The cows wouldn't have a life at all if nobody wanted to eat them. If there was no profit, there would be no cows. So rather than taking a life, we are giving millions of them lives. Humans have been eating meat since before we were evev human. ***** Erectus and others had tools to hunt and eat animals. The thing I would never do is try to tell a vegetarian that they should change their diet. But plenty of veggie people tell omnivores that they need to become a vegetarian. Why is that? I eat what I think is good for me, and you can do the same. Don't tell me my diet is wrong, please. I'm an omnivore, a picky eater, and I eat a balanced diet for my needs. I'm 73 years old, on zero prescription medications, and a heart doctor says I have the circulatory system of a 50 year old. I caught a cold this year on an airplane. It resulted in one day of runny nose and one day of coughing. On the third day I was back to normal. The last time I got sick at all was another mild cold about 15-20 years ago. Low carb, moderate protein, high fat omnivorous diet is obviously working for me. The thread is titled vegan bullying - and I interpret it as veggie people trying to tell me how to eat. My post gives the reasons why I eat an omnivorous diet. It is my defense to veggie people telling me I should stop eating meat. My posts are not intended to tell any vegetarian how to eat. I have 3 vegan friends and one who is married to a vegan but needs to eat meat, we can go out to dinner together and nobody criticizes the others. We all know we are just picky eaters, and if the subject comes up, there is never preaching, just curiosity and good friendly conversation. Notes

Highway 61 Revisited - Johnny Winter breathed life and energy into the old Bob Dylan song

Let Me In - The Sensations A dated, corny, but cute song from a Philadelphia group doing almost pre-Ska music

As long as it's positive, take it as a compliment. If it's negative, try to figure out why. Ask what the listener didn't like. Being an artist and baring your creative soul is a tough thing to do. Be glad she didn't shrug and kindly say, "It's OK" with an expression on her face that said in body language "that sucked but I want to be kind to you." Insights and incites by Notes

It's what you wear when the boss holds a meeting

Monkey See Monkey Do - Michael Franks lyrics: Love has locked us up, peaches Locked inside this zoo <,,,snip...> Love is monkey see and monkey do, (that's all it is, peaches) Love is monkey see and monkey do, (would I lie to you?) Love is monkey see and monkey do, (that's all it is, peaches) Love is monkey see and monkey do I used to sing this song when I was in a jazz band in the 1970s or 80s.

Prokofiev's Symphony #2 in Dm - The Royal Scottish orchestra conducted by Neeme Jarvi The first heavy metal album? Prokofiev characterized this symphony as a work of "iron and steel". It's not my favorite from him, but it's definitely heavy metal.

The staff doesn't wait on me. But the rests do.

Strange Fruit - Billie Holiday

My glands secrete enzymes for digesting both plant and animal food - therefore I feel I should eat both My entire digestive system is typical of an omnivore. Plants are difficult to digest, cows and sheep have several stomachs to ferment it first --- horses have an alimentary canal that is very, very, verry long and even so the food is so poorly digested that other animals eat horse feces --- rabbits and deer eat their own feces because one pass isn't enough to digest the plant matter (I for one is not going to do that) ;) If you eat 100% grass fed beef it's actually better than veggies for the environment. The cows can live on grasslands consuming nothing but what mother nature provides. Conversely: To grow crops on grasslands it takes huge amounts of precious water, cancerous herbicides and artificial fertilizer. In addition to that, according to Cornell University and the Environmental Defense Fund the fertilizer industry emits 100 times more methane than all the cow burps and farts combined. --- When you "finish" the beef on feed lots full of corn, it's the corn farming that hurts the planet, not the cows https://earther.gizmodo.com/just-one-tiny-industry-may-emit-more-methane-than-epa-h-1835376030 Seven essential nutrients humans can't get from plants (1) Vitamin B12 (2) Creatine (3) Carnosine (4) Vitamin D3 (5) Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA) - the omega 3 fatty acids you get from plants don't convert to this (6) Heme iron - your digestive system doesn't absorb the iron from plants and (7) Taurine --- you can look these up here https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/7-nutrients-you-cant-get-from-plants?slot_pos=article_1&utm_source=Sailthru%20Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=authoritynutrition&utm_content=2019-11-07&apid=#11 If it weren't for predators, there would be no animal life left on the planet. We wouldn't be here. The herbivores would have eaten us out of house and home. Take the Marine Iguana in the Galapagos for an example. It once ate terrestrial plants. But there were no predators on their island to keep the numbers in check so they ate 100% of the food on the island that they could digest. And when new seedlings sprouted they were immediately eaten. Rather than starving to death, they started eating seaweed. The water is cold, and the iguanas are cold blooded. They ate and then laid in the sun to dry. Pretty soon all the close to shore seaweed had been eaten so the iguanas have to dive deeper and deeper to get food. Then they have to sit in the sun until their body temperatures rise enough to do it again. Those who can't hold their breath long enough and those who are down long enough for their system to get too cold both die, and this controls their numbers. Luckily there are predators in the ocean or all the seaweed would have been eaten by the herbivore fish, but the carnivorous fish keep their numbers in check. But of course there are those who believe the propaganda about veggie diets being healthier, and I suppose for some that might be. After all if one diet book worked for everybody, there would only need to be one diet book. These people are usually not prozeletyzers. Then there are those who are on a well meaning but misguided mission to save the animals. Some of these are the ones who try to diet shame you. Like all religious zealots, they want the entire world to abide by their set of values. I have some vegan friends who don't preach. I'm on a very meat heavy diet (was Atkins and now called Keto). We can meet in restaurants that server both and there is no preaching going on from either side. We both recognize each other for what we truly are, picky eaters. IMO the media propaganda is being spread by the corporate farming industries. They would love to plow up the grasslands to increase their profits. After all, they know the US Government will buy enough of their product to keep the prices up (price supports). The Everglades in Florida is a very poor place to grow sugar cane. I read in the Palm Beach Post that the US government pays them $4 billion of our tax dollars every year to buy enough "surplus" sugar to keep the retail prices for sugar in the US the highest in the world. We need to fight back against the vegan propaganda or there will eventually be no more meat to keep us healty. Insights and incites by Notes

Guatemala Connection - Hubert Laws Great flute player and a nice cut from a very good album.

Fry it. With becan, every day is TGIF!!!

"My Boyfriend's Back" - The Angels