PavlovsCat

Hey guys, when Cakewalk was going under my DAW PC had recently died and I never got around to replacing it until now (I'll have a new custom built music machine in a couple of weeks). So I never actually have switched to the new version of Cakewalk and I purchased Studio One Pro version (the last version) but never installed/used either. Consequently, I still don't have a DAW PC to try out the version of Studio One Pro v. 3 or the lastest version of Cakewalk but I'm tempted by BF upgrade pricing. So I'm asking for advice from those who have used both. Do you find Studio One better? 

One of the reasons I like the IDEA (on paper) of Cakewalk by Bandlab is that it makes it easy to collaborate with others, so I was planning on using it for that reason, unless it's seriously inferior to Studio One in ways that would matter to me. I'd love to get others' thoughts. 

I really like the sounds of this developer's libraries, especially their reverse library. Any users of their libraries want to share their thoughts?

While their reverse library, Revolution, which isn't currently on sale, Cycle and their pads library most interest me. I'd especially be interested if anyone here have Rev AND Revolution care to compare the two?  I found a thread on VI Control where some regulars said they loved the library and one said he had both and found Revolution more usable than Rev. Personally, I love the patches I've heard for both of them. But I don't have the budget for both. Thoughts from Revolution owners/users or owners of Sample Fuel's other libraries?

Also, as a KONTAKT user, I'm wondering how people who use both find HALion -- at least it's free version, which Sample Fuel libraries use -- compares. 

How many brands do you know, @cclarry? Woodman's Immaculate Maple Syrup Studio -- I've got to hand it to them for originality. 

I swear, I've learned of more small developers in the last week than I've probably known in decades of using sample libraries and VSTs. I mean, it's great to see how much talent is out there and choices available, but I'm blown away at how many you're aware of! When you and someone else wrote in some fake names for developers (Farting Platypus?), it really didn't seem that odd. 

6 hours ago, kevin H said:

Why go free when there are comparable plugins for much more money available?  

 

 

You're right -- and another problem with those free plugins? None of them are ever on sale. There's no Black Friday sale on a single one of them. So, it's far less exciting to find them. 

On 11/11/2020 at 2:32 PM, cclarry said:

It's $4.99 at Best Service, and with Best Coins I can get for $1.60...

Nobody knows deals like you cclarry. If there was a plug-in/sample deal hall of fame you should be the very first inductee. 

1 hour ago, Jesse Bruce said:

 

Yeah, I just looked up the company and found a very positive review from Sound on Sound that mentioned the company was founded by a longtime developer from Waves. They look very promising. 

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/babelson-audio-fd-bundle

3 hours ago, paulo said:

Yeah, that was my thinking too, but I have some gift ££ burning a hole in my pocket. PA is on the list too. I'd have to upgrade to Komplete Ultimate to get both of those and although it's good VFM when looked at in isolation, there's an awful lot in there that I will probably never use.

If you have e-vouchers, I just discovered that e-vouchers don't work on special offers like Black Friday sale items.  Darn. 

Before I download, I've never heard of the developer before. Do you two use their plugins and recommend them?  I mean, I appreciate freebies, but if they're not worthwhile, they can just be a waste of time and there have been so many freebies lately, I want to only download the worthwhile ones. Your thoughts on Babelson plugins, gentlemen? 

Yeah, just saw it. For $120, I'd buy a ukulele. Dead serious. I'm going to use it for a small part in one song -- four chords. I can't imagine using it much after that. 

2 minutes ago, cclarry said:

Might I recommend 

https://www.amplesound.net/en/pro-pd.asp?id=24

Not cheap...but good!

Thanks. I'll go check it out. In all candor, I just need something to hold me over, so I'm not going to pay anymore than the two libraries I mentioned; which is ridiculously cheap (under $20). I know that Orange Tree Samples has a ukulele library in the works and I know that will be a killer, but I just need some ukulele strums for one song I plan on working on this month. If I owned a ukulele, I could even strum the chords well enough for this song. 

cclarry, I think I need to block you (okay, I'm  just kidding). It's like I'm an addict and you keep putting temptation right in my face. 

I just picked up another piano library from buying from your link above and I have more piano libraries than I will ever use. But I'm like, "Wait? 5 bucks for a piano library. It might be just the right fit for a certain song. I shouldn't pass this up." There really should be a support group for GAS, but everything I see is just more addicts egging each other on. On the upside, it was a mere 5 bucks.

On another note, I am in need of a decent ukulele library (sadly, while I was trained on piano, organ and drums and played drums professionally for two decades, I took some guitar lessons but just never got proficient with it, hence I've become obsessed with guitar sample libraries going all the way back to hardware synths in the 80s!). Does anyone have Splash Sound's ukulele library and want to share their opinion of it? I was comparing Splash Sound's ukulele demos to those of Dream Audio Tool's -- which is also super cheap, but not on sale -- and thought Dream Audio Tool's demos sounded closer to what I'm after, but, as always, I'm concerned with playability and would love to get some insights from current users.  

Thanks, Larry. I actually missed a few of these freebies and would have missed more without your posts. 

I've heard, from a professional, that their KONTAKT scripting is really, really poor/problematic. Does anyone who owns the library say otherwise (i.e., that they find it is well scripted)? Scripting is critical in string libraries, IMO. 

Damn it, I had my credit card ready to jump on deals on the new sounds from Blind Platypus. 

2 hours ago, aidan o driscoll said:

Well .. quiet a good few people just want a sampler to chop and slice samples + time stretch and the like. And then effect them also. This is pretty much what Serato and Momentum are ..  the gap they fill. There is no  scripting in these apps as far as I am aware. 

They  also cover a gap where price is concerned .. being FREE as is case with Momentum and $99 ( though on sale for $49 now ) for Serato.

Thanks for the distinction in your criteria. I suspected some users would be more focused on loops than multisamples, which is what I primarily use KONTAKT for. But I'm definitely interested in checking out other tools and appreciate the insights. Thanks. 

What separates KONTAKT and makes it superior to any other multisample player is its scripting capabilities. Without the scripting capabilities level that KONTAKT has set as the standard -- and so far, to my knowledge, no other sampler / sample player has equaled them -- nothing else comes close. Of course, KONTAKT also has the advantage of being the top choice of sample developers, and that competition has increased the rate of innovation and kept prices lower. All of that said, I would love to see some really solid competition come along. Can anyone comment on the scripting capabilities of this and other alternatives that have been mentioned? 

1 minute ago, cclarry said:

If there's one thing I have, it's a sense of humour!   Life's too short...LAUGH!

1 minute ago, cclarry said:

If there's one thing I have, it's a sense of humour!   Life's too short...LAUGH!

I completely agree. Humor and kindness mean so much. Have a great weekend. 

31 minutes ago, cclarry said:

I remember the old moniker, so nice to put one and one together!
And it is I who have had the pleasure of serving you all!  It really
does keep me going....and going...and going....LOL

I held back from writing this -- but I hope you know, it's only in jest. Intended to get a smile out of you. 

Thank you / damn you, cclarry, for saving me / costing me so much money by finding all of these great deals / ways of diverting money that should go to my kids' college fund. 

1 minute ago, cclarry said:

PC, the coupon came from signing up for the Artistry Audio Mailing list a while back...it's been 
pinned in my mailbox for a while because nothing has been worthy of using it....

Thanks cclarry, and as always, thanks for posting all of the deals.  (FTR, I previously used the username eDrummist and have been a Cakewalk user since their earliest days; well, maybe year 3 or so.)

4 hours ago, cclarry said:

I still have a $10 coupon, so I can get this and the Essentials for $61....that's a pretty crazy
deal....

I was waiting for a thread to ask other Sampletekk customers about their older piano libraries. Several years ago my main DAW PC hard drive failed and I never replaced it -- and now, I'm going to have a new DAW PC this month (which I'm very excited about). Consequently, I have a bunch of now old sample libraries, including several Sampletekk piano libraries and I wanted to ask people how they think their libraries from a decade ago like 7CG, Rain Piano (first version), Old Lady, WJ, Black Grand and White Grand.  Apparently, from the comments, their older piano libraries have aged pretty well against more recent piano libraries? 

Also, as I'm almost certainly going to grab this deal too -- I own the first version of Rain Piano, and I'm guessing the upgrade to version two is probably at least $15 alone, so it's worth it -- but @cclarry, your post stating that you still didn't use your coupon has me wondering if AudioPlugin.deals sent a coupon I have lurking somewhere among my emails. Could you please clarify if they sent out coupons to their list or if it's something specific to your account? 

Thanks. 

This is cool. I can't imagine how it would fit the style of music I write, but it certainly would get some attention. 

What attracts me, I had training as a musician but zero training in recording production and engineering. I don't know much about any of that (I learned about mics and mic placement from sound and recording pros that worked for bands I was in or recording studio engineers and any other knowledge comes from books and YouTube), consequently, what attracts me about Izotope's products is that they're largely aimed at musicians who aren't trained recording engineers. I've bought a bunch of VST effects but honestly, I don't know what the heck I'm doing. I have yet to buy my next DAW PC or Neoverb but it seems like, on paper, it's a great fit for me. Is anyone else here in a similar boat? 

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that, because that's the number one thing that got my attention. I recently bought R4 for $29, because it seemed like a great deal. But I wonder if Neoverb is more of a wise choice for me. I'd love to get some insights from anyone who owns and is using Neoverb. 

I finally got my email this morning informing me that I qualified for the update from KOMPLETE 12 to 13. Great news. I really am excited about the Noir piano library and getting it free is pretty sweet. So, anyone else who's still waiting, hopefully you'll see your update very soon. 

On 9/30/2020 at 5:13 PM, ZincT said:

It's 23:10 here in the UK and nothing in my account yet. Any luck with yours?

I guess I will sleep on it and look again in the morning ?

I'm in the US (Chicago) and still haven't received anything regarding the free update. Are you or anyone else still waiting for the free update? If others are in the same boat, I will wait before sending tech support an email. 

8 hours ago, ZincT said:

Not long to wait now! I'm looking forward to NOIRE but I'm also curious to see what they did with Guitar Rig 6.

My only question is which time zone are they using to determine when it's 1 minute after midnight is on 1st October?

The suspense on whether or not I'm set to be updated to KOMPLETE 13 tonight is intense! 

(I registered KOMPLETE 12 UPDATE in September, but my KOMPLETE 12 UPDATE has been sitting around for quite a while, unregistered.) I've been keeping my wife updated. I give her enormous credit for pretending she's interested!