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As the forum is receptive to folks going on tangents. I'll share a little of the conversation I had with the AcousticSamples dev about KONTAKT and it reminds me of some of the epic debates another sample developer and I used to have on VI Control maybe 15 or so years ago. This developer, not AcousticSamples, but the one I used to debate with, would regularly do over the top posts about how pirates were killing his sales of his KONTAKT libraries. He even made one really infamous thread where he wrote that software piracy was destroying his marriage. I had replied with compassion for his being stressed about low sales, but asked him some basic diagnostic questions and found that he really had no marketing or promotional efforts for his business. He wasn't doing advertising, PR, YouTube videos, working with the media/influencers, etc. He got upset with me -- even after I shot him a PM with quick tactics he could do right away to increase sales. He shared with me that he was spending a great deal of his days focused on piracy. I replied, this goes against everything you're thinking right now, but just entertain the idea of ignoring pirates for right now and put together a strategy focused purely on the legitimate buyers of sample libraries. He was incredibly resistant to the idea and told me I was clueless on piracy. Time went by and we became friends and he realized that I was in his corner and hated piracy too, I just saw things differently and in a manner that was more helpful for a successful business than spending a significant portion of your time on something that in the end, will not yield more profit to the business. So, back to the AcousticSamples developer, I was making the case that, IMO, and I am not a software engineer, but I have managed some very major corporate websites and digital marketing that get more than 10 million unique visitors in the month -- with budgets over $10 million USD and working with some of the best user experience designers in the business and in my experience UVI has a less than good user experience and iLOK makes users pay a lot of money to fight piracy and I don't like the idea that so much of my money is spent on developers' who obsessively focus on piracy instead of making a better user experience. Anyhow the dev made clear that he will never create libraries for KONTAKT and he can't afford to sell his library as inexpensively as KONTAKT developers due to iLOK fees. I think he's probably a top notch developer. I wish he would switch to KONTAKT. From the demos, it sounds to me like he's made the best sounding Wurli library I've ever heard. I spent an hour last night helping him deal with this Wurlie trademark scam. So I do care about indie developers. But in the end, I think I'm going to be buying e-instruments KONTAKT library, because to be perfectly frank, I so dislike the UVI user experience, I almost never use my UVI plugins/libraries. But otherwise, if you like UVI's system and you want to pay more money because you believe they're winning the war on software piracy, pay that extra money and suffer a worse user experience for the privilege of feeling like it's winning against piracy. For me, customer focused companies choose the user experience for paying customers over becoming obsessed with fighting piracy. There is a legitimate market out there. Me and a lot of people will never use pirated software or libraries. I've turned down dozens of NFRs from small devs I've given advice to. I don't appreciate when they prioritize their obsessions with piracy over legit users, I think it's the wrong choice and I don't really want to fund that obsession. That said, from decades of consulting to software companies, I do realize that even some well known composers have gotten caught with pirated software and improperly going beyond licensing terms having multiple employees using libraries that should have been using additional licenses. But, as a user and as a business person, I believe in prioritizing paying users of obsessing over piracy, especially for one man sample developer businesses.

As I mentioned, and I want to restate it so no one is disappointed. I find 8Dio's scripting of the library disappointing. However, for the price it's now at, if I didn't already own it, I would buy it. I am unaware of any other string library with this kind of detail/depth and quality, so there are no peers in that sense. See, this is one of the many reasons, I would be terrible as an influencer. [EDIT: I wrote that poorly the first time. I meant to say that influencers don't keep the cash rolling in if they give totally honest reviews, they're trying to sell stuff and I am too compelled to be as open as possible, which would be disastrous for an influencer.] EDIT: I had praised a Fluffy Audio library for its scripting, which I like a lot. But after some experiences with terrible behavior from the developer that I've since learned from one well-known industry contractor and one influencer that this developer has a history of problematic behavior I can no longer recommend them.

Yeah, I remember when the dev made KONTAKT libraries too. He told me in detail why he switched to UVI, and it's primarily due to piracy issues. You're right, Vernon. Anyhow, I hope that he trusts me enough to not be afraid of the charlatan trying to extort him. In the end, he did confirm that they were trying to get money out of him. A legit trademark owner would have almost certainly sent a C&D letter. When I looked at the trademark registration it was for sports and entertainment use, it didn't even pertain to musical instruments or even jukeboxes. Along the way I also noticed a YouTuber, sample developer named Adam Monroe registered a trademark for Wulitzer, which I find just plain sleazy and completely ignorant of trademark law. The fact is, Gibson, which bought Baldwin, who bought Wurltizer, owns the registered trademark for Wurlitzer but let the registration for Wurly expire in 2014. Monroe registering the name Wurlitzer was a complete waste of his money and clearly he has no legitimate claim to the name. EDIT: I can see that he uses Gibson's trademark on his website as if he owns it, which is a clear violation of Gibson's intellectual property rights and a slam dunk in the courts. Gibson could easily sue him, but his sales are so small, they are unlikely to have noticed him. But still, having watched the guys videos and once considered his Wurli library, I lost respect for him after seeing what he was trying to pull. Legitimate, ethical people don't use and try registering trademarks that they know are owned by other parties; that's the realm of scam artists. But legally, it makes no sense. He clearly didn't consult a trademark attorney and registered that on his own. But a registration only means evidence that you have made a claim to a trademark on a certain date, it doesn't necessarily mean that you actually possess the right to use that trademark, which in the case of Monroe in this situation. Adam Monroe registered and is using a trademark -- Wurlitzer -- any competent trademark attorney would tell you is clearly owned by Gibson and consider Adam's actions less than ethical and he Gibson would easily win a lawsuit against him, he is clearly violating their intellectual property rights in violation of US (and other countries) law.

UPDATE, for anyone who is paying attention to my excursion on Wurlis. The AcousticSamples developer told me that he pulled the Wurlie library after he received a cease and desist (C&D) notice from someone claiming to be a descendant of the Wurltizer founder who owns the trademark. Now, I'm from a marketing and business strategy background prior to starting my own business (which actually developed from my writing and speaking on marketing strategy), but I know trademark law globally well enough that the legal teams at companies I worked at would turn to me for advice and Interpol actually quotes me in their documents on International trademark laws. I actually drafted the legal and privacy policies and the HR social media policies of some of the very large companies I've worked at where I've managed/led digital marketing for the legal departments at those companies. So, he shared their info. I dived into the USPTO, as I actually know a bit about the Wurlitzer Company. My mother worked for them as a music teacher. Beyond making pianos, organs, electric pianos and jukeboxes, they had retail music stores where they sold their instruments as well as Yamaha and Steinway pianos and various organ brands. So the person who claimed to have filed this trademark, as it turned out, looks like they were trying to extorting the developer. The "Wurly" -- yep, that's the way Wurlitzer actually spelled it, so that is the way I used to spell it until finding almost no one else spelled it that way -- trademark was abandoned in 2014, by Gibson. Gibson owns the Wurlitzer brand and trademark today. The person trying to scam AcousticSamples doesn't have a defendable trademark (yes, people can get trademarks that are worthless registered) and their trademark registration doesn't even apply to musical instruments, plugins or sample libraries and I seriously doubt the registrant is any kind of heir to the Wurlitzer family company, which would be legally meaningless when the company was sold to Gibson long ago, including the trademark rights. Consequently, the AcousticSamples dev had pulled his Wurlie library because of this scam artist's threats and will be putting it back up. He does plan on doing a Black Friday sale. I don't want to say what the discount amount is, because he shared it with me. However, e-instruments Wurli is a lot cheaper. But unquestionably, IMO, based on demos, I've never heard a better sounding Wurlie sample library than AcousticSamples. I'll absolutely share the link once it's up, but as much as I love it his library, I suppose because of the price and that it uses my greatly preferred KONTAKT, I think I'm going to buy e-instrument's Wurli this weekend. But I may end of buying AcousticSamples library in the future. BTW, I did try to persuade the dev to release his libraries in KONTAKT format, but wasn't successful!

Does anyone who has this want to share their thoughts? I'm considering buying it.

Well, I suppose the choice just got easier (the dev eliminated the "Wurlie" library). I just never heard demos of a Wurlie sample library that sounded that good. I didn't mention it here before, but I did find this new developer, Skybox -- whose demos of everything sound really, really nice -- has a Wurli library too that sounds good, but it's part of a package that's priced beyond my range (it's $129 USD). So if AcousticSamples have taken their Wurlie library out of rotation (there's a Leslie joke in their somewhere), I suppose I'm going to pick up the e-instruments Wurli. Only several weeks ago I picked up SoundPaint's Wurli -- and I know Troels' and he came to me for some branding/marketing advice years ago and I really like him -- but in all candor, that Wurli library is lifeless and I think it even has an issue that I reported and promised to send an audio file of to demonstrate (when I was doing my comparison of my Wurli libraries, SoundPaint's Wurli has this weird spike of sound when I played a chord that occurs every time I play it back and it's the same MIDI file of me playing the riff for "Where It's At" and no other library -- of several other Wurli libraries I used for the clip, has problems). I think of the libraries I currently have, the Scarbee one that comes with KOMPLETE is my favorite and that's also pretty lifeless, but not as lifeless as SoundPaiint's Wurli. I did like the SP Wurli for a short while after I bought it for one specific patch, I think it's called "aggressive," but that's it, it's a one trick pony. To me, the dynamics of a Wurli are an essential part of its magic and Scarbee's library does a meh job of capturing those dynamics while SoundPaint's miss them altogether. It's just lifeless when you get away from the aggressive patch -- which really just relies on effects to get a very one dimensional tone that sounds cool. But a real Wurli comes alive when you play quietly and when you pound it. Its like a piano but it has another dimension that's like, in certain respects how a B3 can growl (even though a Wurli can't growl). It's tone has an edge to it. I love Rhodes too, but they don't have the same emotional connection for me. I do realize that I may truly be obsessed with Wurlis. Okay, if I don't hear back from the AcousticSamples' dev by tomorrow -- at latest by this weekend, I'm buying the e-instruments Wurli. Just imagine, after 21 years since an injury stopped me from playing, I played and sang this live with a Wurli sample library (the one in KONTAKT's factory library). I never played the song before (but I'm a huge Beatles fan). I just googled the chords and started playing and singing -- before I learned to comp vocals. (As you can tell, I was never a singer, but for a non-singer, I think I did okay). So even the NI KONTAKT factory with distortion and a Leslie simulator doesn't sound half bad. But I'm sure that e-instrument's Wurli would blow that away. I may go back and redo the song with the Wurli I pick up and Orange Tree Samples' Evolution Vintage Violin Bass (a Hofner) and maybe redo some of the sloppy playing.

The search function of the forum is pretty poor, so a lot of us long time forum members tend to scan the first page to see if a recent deal was posted. But hey, that's your 12th post in this forum, don't let me stop your mean-spirited trolling contribution as your introduction here. Way to endear yourself to the community. Just a heads up. That kind of mean-spirited trolling isn't how people roll in this forum. It's a friendly group overall.

I have checked out Adam Monroe's shootout videos and demos. I did see the Keyscapes demo a long time ago, but it's out of my budget range, even though I realize a lot of people who know there stuff have said great things about it. Of course, Greg is a legend. Much respect to him. As my mom was a musician and music teacher, I had access to our baby grand, then an upright piano, an organ and Leslie speaker, a Wurli, my brother's Les Paul, a Martin acoustic, a mandolin, an accordion, numerous percussion instruments, my drum kit, my harmonicas, and numerous instruments. Music was a regular part of my childhood and I played professionally until around 20 years ago when I had an accident and lifelong tendinitis that stopped me from playing. I can only play for a short period of time before I am in pain. But last year, during the pandemic, I decided to try to play again. Of course, I'm no longer even worthy of being called a musician with 20+ years without practice and only being able to play for very short periods of time, but I still enjoy playing and sometimes I just need to sit in front an instrument as a release. Music therapy, maybe? But I've discovered that I am sentimental about certain sounds, like pianos that remind me of pianos we had when I was a kid, organs, Wurlis, etc. But pianos and Wurli's more than anything. Although with my terrible playing and inability to practice, half of me questions if I should spend anything at all on music stuff for me. So I am severely limiting my spending. Some people here have aspirations for their music to be heard by the masses. I'm happy if three friends like a song I wrote when I was in my 20s/30s when I was playing professionally.

INTIMATE STUDIO STRINGS - $45 USD NORMALLY $295 USD I can give a mini review of Intimate Studio Strings. I bought them a couple of years ago for, I think, maybe around $120 USD on sale. They sound good and they have a lot of detail and for $45 USD, there's really nothing comparable in that range. On the downside, the loading time could be better optimized. The KONTAKT scripting could be more intuitive -- it is a bus load of articulations and you can set them to switch articulations using velocities (as well as, I believe, keyswitches) -- so if you're into that, it's probably fine, if not, it's not as fun to use as a string library with great KONTAKT scripting. However, libraries that do that cost several times this price. 8Dio gives current customers referral links/codes, you can PM cclarry for an additional $15 USD off if this would be your first purchase from 8DIo (no one is more deservinhg of a tip in this forum, IMO). "Comprising of over 500 hours of sessions at Scotland’s Premiere Recording Studio, Gorbals Sound, the Intimate Studio Strings series marks 8Dio’s commitment to push the boundaries of advanced techniques and achieve a modern, playable, and fully customizable studio sound. Utilizing new and unique isolation technologies, we were able to capture multiple section sizes and ensure all instruments blend seamlessly, allowing you the ability to mix and match. Including soloists and all the various ensemble sizes, there are 256 possible combinations! Each instrument also has its own fully capable mixer with functions such as Solo, Mute, Output Routing, Volume, and Panning, all featured alongside our more advanced offerings. In addition to customizing the number of players (either from true recordings or mixed/overdubs), we also offer the new Distance Control, which seamlessly blends between an upfront, dry signal and a wider, more spacious signal. 8Dio Intimate Studio Strings gives you direct access to dozens of advanced and unique playing styles and articulations, full host tempo sync (relevant articulations only), and customizable section sizes, all in one streamlined and refined package. Studio Intimate Strings is the start of a new journey and one we hope you all join us on. " SPECIFICATIONS: 113GB compressed to 45GB of content True Deep-Sampled Studio Strings Advanced Section Control Up to 256 String Size Combinations Deep-Sampled Violin(s) (1, 2a, 2b, 3a, 3b, 4 and 5) Deep-Sampled Viola(s) & Cello(s) (1, 2, or 3) Deep-Sampled Bass(es) (1a, 1b, or 2) Full Mixer for each instrument and section Advanced Layered Legatos w/ dynamics Ostinato Measured Portato, Tremolo, & Legato Fluent Mic Control (near-field to entire studio) Delivered by Download Kontakt 5.8.1 Full Retail (or later) Required https://8dio.com/products/intimate-studio-strings

So you're a fellow Wurli junkie, like me? My musician/music teacher mother had one of these in our house when I was growing up and one of my sisters sometimes played it with our family band. I was the youngest kid, and while piano student, my siblings told me I would be the drummer! That started me on my future playing drums professionally, but still being in love with Wurlis, pianos and organs (the other instrument I took lessons on as a kid and my mom owned a Leslie speaker, so I'm in love with those too).

Wow, e-instruments Wurli is going for only $33.43 while the developer AcousticSamples "Wurlie" even PMed me on VI Control after seeing me praise his Wurli library as the best sounding Wurli demos I've heard for any Wurli library, but even with his upcoming Black Friday sale, it won't be discounted to anything close to this and he uses the UVI platform and I greatly prefer KONTAKT, which is what e-instruments uses. Oh, the dilemma. I even made a Cakewalk project featuring every Wurli library I own with me playing the main riff from Beck's" Where It's At" -- which I'll share, if anyone wants, after I make my next purchase. In fact. the AcousticSamples's developer PMed me that he'll give me the Black Friday discount now if I'm willing to do a shootout with his VReeds plugin that uses samples and modeling against other Wurli libraries/plugins, but his discounted price was still a lot higher than e-Instruments, but I was actually checking out his "Wurlie" library, not VReeds, and i thought the "Wurlie" demos sounded better than VReeds. So just minutes ago I just checked AcousticSamples site and found that they pulled their Wurli library. Sad. It sounded amazing. I sent the AcousticSamples' dev a PM asking if he retired the Wurlie library or if he's selling through a reseller like Audio Plugin Deals. I'll update this post when I hear back in case there any other Wurli fans interested. https://www.bestservice.com/session_keys_electric_w.html

I need you to translate my posts! You got both right! I am a sucker for Wurlis and that dev's Wurli demos sound amazing to me. He PMed me at VI Control to tell me it will be on sale for Black Friday. The only challenge is that e-Instruments has a Wurli that sounds really good (but not quite as good -- okay, I mean amazing, AcousticSamples Wurlie sounds demos amazing to me, I mean, I am in love with that sound) but they're in KONTAKT, which I greatly prefer to UVI and probably be on sale for less (the AcousticSamples dev told me the discount amount he's putting the library on sale for and e-Instruments usually has a 50% off sale for Black Friday) . What to do. What to do.

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I own KOMPLETE 13, which has Guitar Rig, but I just wanted to say I appreciate your generously giving this away on the forum, Bapu. My hope is that someone who is low on cash will be the person who gets to enjoy this.

Have a great trip. As I'm sure you realize, everyone here will miss you!

The entire Abbey Road Drums collection for $99USD is a great deal, IMO.

It's really all about being positive and easily remembered at the big brand level. For small developers, it's not as sophisticated a process. I have helped name dozens of products in my life and few divisions of companies, but at mid and small companies, not large ones (for instance, I've consulted to Unilever, but had no input in developing brand names). The thing to avoid is very generic, descriptive names like AcousticSamples. It's related to why I often forget their name. So that's a big reason to avoid a generic, descriptive name. Another big reason is that -- and this isn't just a US issue, it's the norm -- descriptive, generic trademarks are not easily protected. If someone comes along and names their sample library Acoustic Samples: Guitar, the original developer who uses that name is going to basically have little or no recourse to protect that name. Look at one of the most brilliant and successful brands of all time, Apple. Jobs originally lifted the name from The Beatles, agreeing never to get into the music biz (of course, he later did). It's a very memorable name. Unless you're allergic or have had some traumatic childhood experience involving apples or apple trees, the name is generally positive. And it's memorable. It's not descriptive of the products the company makes. Simple, positive and easy to remember. It's what you shoot for with a good brand name.

Yeah, you're right. AcousticSamples. I got my generic named developers mixed up.

Harpsichord, check out Xperimenta's Harpsichord for KONTAKT. Only $9 USD. I like this dev a lot: https://audioplugin.deals/xperimenta-harpsichord/ Electric pianos, if you want a Rhodes, Orange Tree Samples Famous E is the best there is. If you're in love with Wurli's like me, the best I've heard so far is RealSamples Wurlie, with e-Instruments having the runner up. I heard some amazing B3 plugin people here were sharing that was over my budget. I think it was a plugin. Someone will be able to name it. I think @abacabposted in that thread. I remember being super impressed, but it went over my budget at that time. Edit: I think the developer for the B3 organ plugin that I thought sounded great was from GG Audio.

I think you may be buying so much that you've reached a level where companies marketing teams have special Bapu strategy meetings to make sure they keep you loyal!

I'm really glad to read you didn't buy that. I do feel bad for anyone who has bought this package. With regards to having more sounds than we can use, that's pretty much everyone in this forum! We can all relate.

Thanks for the feedback (also, thanks to TheSteven). If someone offers it for $29 USD or below for an upgrade, I might bite. Otherwise, it's been at $49 USD for an upgrade for years and from their forum and a couple of friends who own it telling me their bad experiences, I'm not ready to move at this moment.

This is the same price for upgrading from BFD Eco, which I own, but frankly, if you check the various forums, including and especially BFD's own forum, BFD3, which is more than 8 [edit: I looked that up] years since their last major version update (BFD2), has had nightmare problems and has been VERY neglected by the company that bought the product line from fxpansion many years ago. Consequently, I've been waiting to see if they ever get the problems worked out and are saling smooth for a bit before pressing the buy button. The people I know that own it have all recommended that I don’t spend the $49 USD on BFD3 for numerous reasons.

There have long been posts claiming this developer uses samples derived from other libraries in posts from regular forum members here, at VI Control and KVR. Some have claimed to have analyzed the individual samples to ascertain that they are the same. The developer has operated under multiple names and engaged in some less than great practices under past names, that I know myself to be true. However, I'll cut to the chase. I have downloaded three of the paid sample libraries this developer sells when they were given away as freebies and they shared in common that they were incredibly bloated file size for each library (8 GB or more) for what it was. Each library -- two were piano libraries, one was a vibraphone-- was only one layer, like a Soundfont library from decades ago. So after downloading, listening and checking out each library, I deleted all of them. I don't want huge file size one layer instruments that sound terrible dynamically. If all of their libraries no on sale were suddenly offered free, I wouldn't waste my time, bandwidth or hard drive space for them. This developer just doesn't produce good quality libraries. I would consider them dodgy at best. I strongly recommend people avoid wasting their money on them. If someone is looking for high quality KONTAKT piano libraries that are inexpensive when on sale, I would recommend SampleTekk.

Clearly, you didn't read the new forum rules. Every thread is required to now have a vigorous philosophical analysis and debate regarding controversial tweets by sample developers. [NOTE: TO MODS. I kid, I kid.] In all seriousness, daveiv and I PMed -- as we occasionally do -- and he shared he had no idea of what went down with Christian's post, so he had no idea about any of this. Back to our regularly scheduled programming. UP WITH WUP!!!! GO capitalism!!!