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I've been working on 1 project for awhile. I've changed outputs on different tracks. I have started with a third party midi file that says something like, "allow Cakewalk to send programs at beginning of song"--or something like that. I realize now I should have disabled that, but the message no longer comes up. My problem is I can't get any sound from my synth when I try to play live on a midi track. The settings are to all inpts omni, and the output is set to the 4th channel of my MIDI sport4x4. The MIDI channel is also channel 4, since that is what the synth that I am trying to play is set to. However, once the song is playing, if I simply click on the track output field and choose output 3 on my midi sport 4x4, and then immediately again choose 4, I will then hear sound. The problem is I keep losing sound thruout the recording, since it wasn't all recorded at once. Is there any way to set the ouput and have it ignore messages to change to something else? I did try to insert a bank/patch change, but that doesn't fix the problem. Hope that's clear. LNovik

I should say that I finally got it to work. However, since you were kind enough to explore my problem, I'll answer each point. 1)I don't have the wireless Vortex (just the wired one.). There is a USB port which I connect to my computer USB. 2)I'm using Windows 10 3)I have been setting up a single track in CbB, but HAD not been having any luck. My Triton has been on the MIDI channel 8 for years. However, I had not been able to figure out how to change the MIDI channel of my VOrtex. It hadn't seemed to matter, since I had been able to hear my Triton sounds while playing the Vortex. But, I was having trouble recording these MIDI notes (when played from the Vortex.) 4)Though I have looked for hours, I have not found any satisfactory explanation of what the "input" and "output" mean on the tracks parameters. I had always assumed that the input parameter should not be on Vortex, since I didn't want any info going to the Vortex---since it has not sound. But thru reading these comments, I guess the input parameter should be set for the Vortex, since I am inputting data from that instrument. I finally managed to change the MIDI channel for the Vortex to ch 8, to match my Triton. I did put the output on channel 8, though I don't even think that mattered. That is because the MIDI out cable from the Vortex is going into the MIDI in for the Triton. SO, when I then play the data I just was able to record, I hear nothing--because there is no MIDI info getting into the Triton's MIDI in port. But that's OK---I just change the parameters after I successfully recorded, so I can hear it. 5) I did search and only found one hit saying no drivers for the Vortex are necess. I'm not sure how valid it was, but it seemed accurate. There were none on the Alesis site either. 6)Yes, I am using regular MIDI cables. I was just saying that my MIDI Sport 4x4 ......Ah yes, a flash: of course, it has lots of MIDI ports, both in and out. However, they are taken since I have several MIDI instruments. I now realize I could have just taken one out and gone right into one of the MIDI ins from the MIDI out of my Vortex. In summary, I think the key was 1)realizing that the input parameter should be the Vortex, and 2)changing the MIDI channel on the vortex to 8. I guess since I'm attached thru MIDI to my Triton, by choosing the same MIDI channel, it now seems to be going thru the Triton into Cakewalk. Thanks again for your assistance. LNovik

Thanks very much for the quick reply. And who better to answer my question than Promidi. I was just able to find a good link explaining how to check and change the midi channel for my Vortex keyboard. I'll do that when I get home tonite. I'm just not sure how I would do what you say. If I plug the Keytar directly into my PC, I don't know if I'll hear anything, since the Keytar has no internal sounds. Would you be able to just tell me what the Input and output settings would be if I just continued to plug the MIDI out of my Vortex into the MIDI in of my Triton. THat is, assuming I made sure the Vortex was set to MIDI channel 1 (and the Triton stays on 8) If not, I'll try to plug directly into the computer, though I actually am plugged in already. My USB goes from the Vortex right into the USB of the computer. THe MIDI Sport 4/x 4 has an output that goes into the USB of the computer as well. But, I can't connect my Vortex directly into the 4x4. It only has the 8, 1/4 " ports, and the 1 USB port that goes from the interface to the computer. I don't have a 1/4 plug on my Vortex--it doesn't have its own sound. Thanks again for your time. Hope that's clear. I do realize there may be things I'm not understanding correctly, so thanks for your patience. LNovik

I will reword my question in a (hopefully) simpler form. I have an ALesis Vortex Keytar, which is basically a MIDI keyboard controller with no internal sounds. I simply want to hook it up in my system so that I can record MIDI. I need help with the track settings. I have a MIDI cable going from the MIDI out of the Vortex to the MIDI in of a Korg Triton. The Triton is set to channel 8. On the MIDI track I'm trying to record on, for the "IN" field, I've tried "vortex" and I've tried Omni ( or sometimes "none.") On the Output setting, I've tried Vortex and other times have just listed the Triton, channel 8, since that is the instrument which is supplying the sounds. I am usually able to get the sound of my Triton when I play the Vortex, but I cannot get it to record MIDI. I can record MIDI from any of my other synths, just not the Vortex. I do have the Vortex plugged into a USB on my Dell computer, though only for power. Perhaps that is interfering? Does anyone know what the ____ I am doing wrong. I have been able to do this in the past, but I'm just not able to do it now. I do have a MIDI Sport 4x4 MIDI interface for my Triton and other synths, but, as I said, the Vortex is plugged into the MIDI IN of the Triton. Thanks. LNovik

Now, I even tried removing the MIDI out plug from my Vortex (MIDI controller keyboard). It is already attached by USB to my computer. I again have now chosen the Vortex as my MIDI in, as recommended above and when I look online. Still no ability to record MIDI. Perhaps someone could tell me what all the other controls on the track view should be set to, especially the MIDI out in this case. I was thinking that if I disconnect the MIDI out from my Alesis to my Korg Triton, and just go straight thru to my computer, perhaps I need a driver in my computer for this Alesis Vortex, (ie, the external MIDI controller)???? LNovik

I did check. The MIDI in, as I said was NOT set to the Vortex. HOwever, I just did set it to Vortex\omni. The outpt it set to MIDI output C (of my midi interface), channel 8--which is the MIDI channel I have set the Triton to. When I arm the track by clicking on the R button, I still don't see the meter moving. And when I then push the Record button, no data gets displayed/recorded on that track. LNovik

I'll check that now. Thanks for the response. Perhaps I'm not understanding something. I would think that, in general, I attach the MIDI out from my Vortex to the MIDI in of the Triton. The notes I play on the vortex keyboard go OUT to the MIDI in of the triton, and play the tones of that synth. I don't think of a midi in for my vortex, since the vortex doesn't have any sound of it's own. Thus, if it has no sound, why would I set anything regarding the Vortex to midi in. I do realize I might be understanding this completely wrong, but that is just how I have thought of it. LN

I'm trying to record a MIDI track from my Alesis Vortex keyboard. Actually I WAS able to do the first verse earlier today, but for some reason I'm suddenly unable to. I HAVE chosen Vortex as my MIDI out in the track. I have it routed it to a Korg Triton (thru MIDI). I AM able to record MIDI from this Triton. In fact, I am able to record MIDI data from my other hardware synths as well. At first I thought that perhaps CBL only records if I press keys on the Triton, but, as I said, I was able to do it earlier from the Vortex. On the track, other than choosing Vortex on the output field, I am choosing the MIDI channel of 8, which is the MIDI channel I usually keep the Triton on. I should also add that I do hear sound when I play the Vortex Keytar, and this sound IS coming from the Triton. I just can't get Cakewalk to record the MIDI data. Since I was able to do it earlier, I'm just thinking that I must have hit some control key somewhere. Perhaps there is a command that either does or does not let MIDI data pass thru the Triton, though I can't see how I might have changed that. Perhaps I haven't chosen the correct MIDI channel on my Vortex, though it's not intuitive how to do this. However, if, as I said, I'm able to hear sound when I play the Keytar--which doesn't have it's own sound--I would think that the correct MIDI channel has been chosen . Lastly, perhaps the MIDI channel for the track I'm trying to record on should be set to something other than the same channel as my Triton. However, I wouldn't be able to hear sound if I chose another track. While I'm writing this, I guess I could try to MIDI record a Cakewalk included virtual synth. Then after I get the data down, I could route it anywhere I want. I'm just bothered by the fact that I was able to do it this AM, but not this afternoon. And, I did reboot to see if that would help, but obviously not. Any ideas? Thanks for your time. LNovik

Thanks. I must have hit this key when I aimed for the "pause" key next to it. I find my timeline stutters fairly often, and hitting the Pause key corrects the problem right away. I visited your site, 57Gregy, while I was at it. Cool songs. LNovik

I am working on a downloaded MIDI song. I have the staff view docked to the bottom of my screen, showing the track I'm trying to learn. Suddenly, as the music is playing, the staff view no longer shifts to keep up with the rest of the music. In other words, I no longer see the notes that I should be playing, only the ones that I've already played. As I glance up to the track view above, I see that the time ruler also will then stop at the far right of my view, and it just stays there. This is all as the music continues to play. I'm wondering what I must have clicked on to cause this. thanks LNovik

OK, I think I figured it out. Under my saved files, the Master.ins is not found under cakewalk Core, but under AppData, as someone in this forum told me about 6 months ago. AppData just doesn't show up in "trees." Thanks. LNovik

I have recently gotten my broken computer back. It seems the reason for the intermittent freezing--both while in Cakewalk and other programs- was that my SSD was defective And that was on a new Dell computer. . Since replacing it, I no longer see any freezing. Of course, I've had to painstakingly reinstall all of my programs. Which leads me to: It seems like I am able to easily find Instrument Definition Files for all of my instruments, except the Kronos. I have been searching for about 40 min, but cannot find any links. Any ideas? Thanks. LNovik

Thanks. I was easily able to access all my numbers at what you cleverly called, Your old Cakewalk account. Actually, I started to download everything BEFORE removing it from my hard drive. After I complete the process of downloading everything to my SSD, I will then remove all of it from my hard drive. Thanks for the help. LNovik

As Nigel says, I should install Sonar X3 Producer on my SSD instead--and get rid of it on my hard drive. I realize that I cannot find the original discs that came with my purchase of Sonar x3. However, I'm sure I have the serial numbers, etc. IS there a place to download Sonar x3 if I have the serial number. I guess, alternatively, as he says: I could just copy some of the plug- ins that are now on my hard drive to my SSD. . But I don't mind trying his preferred suggestion if I could download and install Sonar X3. I trust that when I would then download CbB, this wouldn't interfere with the Sonar on the same SSD---Ah yes, I believe SCook is saying that they SHOULD be on the same SSD, and that will not interfere. That is about the only thing I understood in his note, not because of the content, but because I am not at the level to understand such things--or, at least, to execute such things. Thanks. LNovik

Hi, After many problems with my new Dell computer, it looks like it's finally fixed. It's been freezing for months, and 2 returns to Dell had not helped. Now they've installed a new SSD, and, at last for the past 2 days, it hasn't been freezing. As I'm setting up my computer, I know that when I again download CbBL, I'll put it on my SSD. I also know that I'll put my "Cakewalk Projects" folder on my larger hard drive. I do have a previous version of Sonar X3 Producer, and that's currently also on my hard drive . In fact, I hope you'll be able to view below the list of files that I now have on my Cakewalk Content folder. Perhaps some of these files are even left from CbBL. M question: can I just leave these files on my D drive (hard drive), and simply now download CbBL onto my C: or SSD drive. I already, this AM, downloaded drivers for my midi and audio interfaces, as well as my updated version of Melodyne,--and have placed all of these on my SSD. Thanks for your attention. LNovik

Yes, when it occurs, it continues to occur even if I press the stop button control. And, of course, I have checked the "zero controllers when play stops" box. Perhaps I am not checking the correct other boxes in that area, or am checking boxes that I shouldn't. LNovik

Re, David Baay's response, it is true that other tracks are probably using the same sound, and maybe even on the same channel. I'll check that. However, as I had said, it even occurred when I changed the single track I was working on to another synth==which of course was on another channel. As to slartabarfast's response: while this is also occurring when I am playing along (not recording) with the song, it also occurs when I pause the track and try to play certain parts alone. I will try to see if it occurs when I stop a track, and not just when I pause the track. LNovik

I am working on a 3rd party version of a song. There are about 10 midi tracks. I'm trying to learn some of these parts, so I bring up the staff view for an individual track. When I then play these notes, some of them sustain as if I'm holding down the sustain peddle (or key). It doesn't always occur on the same notes. For instance, at the moment, it's the middle C, the F above that, and the Bb below that. The other notes don't sustain. The notes are being played on my Roland Integra-7. I assume there is some sustain on one or more of the other tracks as this point in the song, , and this 'bleeds" thru onto my current track. Interestingly, when I assign it to another instrument, such as the Motif ES7, there are still abnormally sustained notes, just not the same ones. Again, I'm not just saying these notes seem to sustain during the song when I don't think they should (though this does also occur.) I'm saying that when I stop the recording and simply play a scale, certain notes just sustain inappropriately. LNovik

Thanks. That seems to agree with my experience. The LANDR version seemed to be a little brighter. HOwever, since it's just a music video I'm doing for friends and family, most people tend to listen on their mobile phone. That already is heavy on the highs, with little bass. I figure I don't need anything brighter. LNovik

Thanks. That was easy. LNovik

I was searching on ideas for mastering, and came across something about LANDR. They say I can access it when I attempt to export my currrent project. I have hit the export menu item, but don't see such a choice. DO I have to download it first. The article seemed to say it was already there, but perhaps that was in Platinum. LNovik

That didn't work. Stuttering continues. However, I am setting up my computer. My hope is that the problem will be solved then. LNovik

Hi, OK, I realized that I had to download all the 4 parts of the download, and then the dialogue box came up. I was able to install almost all of it. Thanks. LNOvik

Hi, It's not quite as easy as I thought. I do remember in the past that when I initially downloaded X3 or similar apps, there was alwasy that box that gave me the option of

Hi, It's not quite as easy as I thought. I do remember in the past that when I initially downloaded X3 or similar apps, there was always that box that gave me the option of a regular installation or a custom. I figured I would do the custom one and just load the plug-ins, as Scook suggested. However, when I go to the linked site of all my Cakewalk purchases, I don't seem to see the option that would get me to this initial dialogue box. Instead I see links to download parts 1 thru 4 of Sonar x3, and then some "loop" types of files. I can copy the screen shot, though it may be difficult to read. THus, I'm wondering how I can do this "Plug-in" only download. I guess I could just download the whole thing. I can't even seem to upload the screen shot. Sorry. LNovik