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12 hours ago, craigb said:

This story started out weird and is REALLY getting even more out there! 

yep we thought is was carbon monoxide until they said it wasn't

16 hours ago, Wookiee said:

Because I missed the word YOU out of the question why do YOU use it. Simples 

history and familiarity 👍

13 minutes ago, Wookiee said:

2. If it is not mainstream why are using it? Would you not rather be in with the cool kids, down with the main peeps, in with the mainstream crowd. 

that literally doesn't make sense

but you have to agree that proaudio/sonar/cbb has always been pretty much excluded, i've always blamed marketing, the one exception being anderton's sos column (no longer there), even when partnering with big players like roland and then bought by gibson, this forum still blames those corps for lack of success

maybe you don't want a discussion/suggestions and will now delete this pwal account also? (please don't)

because:

1. we've asked for it for ages

2. it makes sense for new users who don;t know what a driver is (bl subs)

3. why is everyone so upset about any suggestions about change

4. if the world was run by "yes men" we'd end up... oh.. errrr

8 minutes ago, Wookiee said:

The more subtle question is why aren't plugin dev's testing on PC's period? Because that is a bigger truth than just not testing in Sonar.

because sonar's the only pc-only daw?

1 hour ago, Colin Nicholls said:

Do you know what ASIO4ALL is? Read about it here.

There are reasons why Cakewalk don't recommend it. Basically because there is no way to limit Sonar's use of the ASIO4ALL to only the small subset of use cases where ASIO4ALL is a reasonable choice. Sonar simply expects more from an AISO device.

Like folks say, if your Audio interface doesn't have a proprietary/native ASIO driver, you will be BETTER OFF using WDM, which Sonar ALSO SUPPORTS.

haha, yes of course i know what asio4all is, but hey other daws like say ableton live, explicitly do recommend it, cakewalk/sonar is the only daw that has issues, i guess because it's incompatible with their driver inplemetation, which has always been windows-only, and every other daw has a cross-platform driver implementation (being cross-platform daws)

cakewalk/sonar is now bundled with a social media account aimed at non-pros, so to make it work "out of the box" for teens who don't know what a "driver" would only benefit everybody

so don't take a suggestion as a criticism

fwiw, i've used this daw (and others) since the late 90s

it's perfectly possible to make chart/successful music without a nice audio interface 🤷‍♀️

23 minutes ago, Will. said:

Look up their notes. 2016 Splat was still on it,  and 2024 not anymore. 

Cakewalk used to be mainstream, but I guess when something becomes free it is not considered as "mainstream" any longer.  So - The human species often sees and renders something as such, not worth investing time fixing bugs for a "free" product - isnt that how business works?

And just like any other product that suffered some bruises - Its tough and takes time to rebuilding your reputation as a brand.

It was sad not seeing a table at NAMM. 

it's not just since they went free, they've never been considered mainstream, i guess because windows only? but yeah, since forever when did they last have a namm table? tbf, if it's free why don't plugin devs test in it.., etc, and so on

make cbb/sonar work with asio4all

it would mean all the new users (bl members) could just get on with their onboard realtek and enjoy the software, sonar a great daw, like they do with next and every other daw, without having to spend money on a "pro" audio interface

of course it means some code refactoring but everyone wins in the end surely?

and don't just say wasapi (that's a japanese sauce :P)

and if not, why not?

and to follow up that, why aren't plugin devs testing in sonar?

On 2/26/2025 at 9:11 AM, craigb said:

This was brought to my attention earlier today and, I must say, I was impressed!

very david lynch video

to summarise troubleshooting 101, if something works ok in other hosts but not a particular one, then that one is the "main suspect"  🤷‍♀️

2 minutes ago, Will. said:

NI Transient Shaper, do not play well with Cakewalk at all its slows the UI down.

but not other daws? i'm guessing plugin devs dev their thing and test in some daws, but it does seem that cbb/sonar is an outlier

32 minutes ago, Sven said:

SONY MDR-7510

certainly with the mdr-7506 all the bits are replaceable, so i'd investigate that before buying a whole new set?

4 hours ago, Aaron Doss said:

I did see in the release notes that the piano roll is now GPU accelerated.

good call, as the symptoms are UI related

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