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Also there is a particular thing: When i use Mvmeter to monitor every track, using value reference to -18(-18 is 0) i should theorically have the medium part of the meter at -18, not the peak. This every tutorial i've seen say.. The problem is that 1)i have a too big oxillation with this instrument, if i record classical acoustic guitar with my soundcard. If i put on -18.. the big oxillation make going a bit too out.. the Mvmeter sign red.. and the sound is horrible, is dirty. The cakewalk master don't go to red.. but on orange and sometimes sound is not clean. I have to stay in everytrack a little bit under the 0(Mvmeter)=-18 with this setup. And the final result sounds more clean in that way. But.. in that way i need more "empowerment" during the process in that way.

I0ve changed something. Now i have same level of commercial videos that i was saying.. and i'm not using Loudmax to "unpower" in that way than before.. Just limit at -1 with Limiter no6 and using it with a much much moderate way to unpower.. and just some compressor. I don't have 9 db of before differences. I've organized all the tracks in different colors.. I'm using 7 busses: Master, Metronome(to ear the metronome in a particular way in some exporting), Reverb, Rhythm, Solo, Melody. I've re-equalized some tracks.. because something before i didn't like. Some peaks where higher.. but some guitars where a bit harsh. I had to cut some high frequences.. and with similar level of listening.. some peaks are going a bit down. But the final volume is similar. Now in Loudness Meter i have -1.2 Db True peak max and -13 LUFS integrated. It is a middle way . All single tracks are near to -18.. using Vmeter. I have 2 really low peaks: track 7 and track 20.. but they are just some note.. and really in background.. i ear it well in the general arrangement. This arrangements has got lot of different dymamics, from difficult to ear to very strenght.. I ear them good like this Some peaks moving during the song.. and some track aren't started in full way.. in the photo. Now the fader of the master it's put back to neutral position.

I forgot an important thing: The peak of you where talking about depends also from the equalization. I'm talking on some particular tracks. It changes lot and lot if you work on eq. Also who made famous videos on gain staging told that the numer are number... but it's also important to "ear". When you start with a track weak for sure, you can put the gain up.. but i think it's not the only things to do. The quality of the source is essential to have a good result and you can't arrive sometimes. Also if i add 6 of gain more.. sometimes isn't enough. And equalization is essential. Example: You remember the track you told me the peak was too low, about -19? Also.. changing the equalization..peak go to -5 or higher. - But the result? The sound become strident, jarring. Same file, same project. Only who listen to it can ear exactly what is happening. The basis i think it's also working with a good source and using an equalization that is good for this kind of instrument, this particular sound. Edit: i had made a mistake in written. I would like to correct: From -19 to -5.. the peak changed using equalization and gain toghether, not only the equalization and not only gain.

Now i have an issue, technical problem and i don't have time to investigate. I will try it or other similar autogain app that have free try in the next days.

The answer was this. It doesn't seem to me an answer to my question. My question was a "rethorical question". I've imagined that withouth pay, with this software, you couldn't make what we were talking about and export withouth limit. I'm talking about that link that you gave me. I just would have the confirmation. There was a demo version, i don't know how "far" can the demo version "arrive". Was a reply to a particular part of your message and was a specific question. I was curious.

Ok, thank You very much for the answers. Master level now is flat, i've moved. I work with the equalizer now. I had put it lower a bit because of some unwanted red and high LUFS that disappear putting the master level a bit down. But .. yes, there are better way to work on it. Now i have another problem, i don't wanna disturb to much, i wouldn't like to be too long. I try to explain easily: i record the acoustic guitar, the peak level of the recording, indicated under the track in the console vies is something like -60 in the track. Is difficult for me to work starting with something like this. Can be that i'm a little tired and i've made a mistake withouth see it. In the master the signal is present, but under the track i don't see nothing. You know what happened? I'm reading only this track. Shouldn't i see a signal also in the source track? Why the level indicated in the track is so low? It's track 3. Now i have -42.6. You know what happened? I ear it very well. How could i make something to the track in cases like this? The signal in the panel of my soundcard input is good and also the signal in the master. Probable i made something wrong. You can see that there is a green line on the master -9.4. Nothing appear on track 3, it seem that i'm not reading it.

The peaks before that the instrument start or is full playng.. can be some little noise in background sometimes also. i delete all of them before exporting.

Now i've could understood. You mean the peak level(right number), not the level on the knob, that's correct? If yes, i'could thinking to other in last answer. Anyway.. some peaks are indicated before that this tracks start in that screenshot, it was taken in a moment. Tracks that aren't sounding. Or the bass is particular in that project. Anyway here they are different: We don't have anymore a so low peak in the bass. This is the photo now. We don't have anymore -19.

Interesting, is the auto gain in the link you gave me totally available with the demo version, or you have to buy the pay version for exporting? Does it have limitations?

Moved You mean 1)the buses divided for effect, for example: all the rhythmn.. send to bus 1 with two effect in the bus, all the melodys send to bus 2: another effect in the bus.. and something like this? It is an old file and i used make "every" track with different effects.. because the Rhythm that are good in a track are horrible in another.. is a little bit difficult arrangement to use like this. Or mean 2)diving in different categoriies and send to buses but using in every track his own effect?send to bus the category and send the bus to the master? The category 1: i was made an experiment.. playing.. but didn't have so much diving of effects using. It's made in the photo with different colors. Category 2: didn't try. Or other? No.. there are different tracks, but they don't play always together. They alternate. There are different tracks and don't stay all in the same screen to check all together.. or i should make a higher definition to the monitor. Anyway a video could be better give idea of the general movement .. because some track with low value are just don't playing or sounding or make just one or two note in all the song. Anyway could try to adjust. Wich value do you mean exactly? the bass? i had to put his level much much down.. to make it at the same volume of the maximum level that he permit me to the guitar withouth going to red. Because bass and guitar should be at similar level. You can see i had to bring lot down.. Sometimes the tracks with very low peaks of volume are the tracks that i had to put down and down to put them at the same level if you mean this. Could be that i didn't get the answer. Track 4 as more low i have the peak.. as more better sounds. In the sense that when i try to cut frequences too much.. sound really worse. I can try to analyze and eventually delete and overwrite this track. Can be that something is gone bad in the source. now the higher is - 0.9. Anyway it's not related to my project that i was talking for.. this is old and was just an example to investigate about why the final volume must always be so low. My project is another and 'ill send it in the next days how i told. I have checked every single track with Mv Meter set at -18. 0 is -18.

Here another project with lot of tracks. This work differently because i used every single track in indipendent mode and make them go to the Master, in the other i organized tracks in groups. But.. the example can work the same, there is same volume. In this case i used Limiter no.6 insted than Loudmax, to gain the dB that i didn't have in the final project.. but it's the same. Here you can see the Console View, i have lot different examples, worked in different mode, but the way is the same. I had to obtain some "final volume" using the limiter.. because the exported file sounded too low respect to other commercial videos. Here you can see the final result with loudness meter, after having "empowered" the project.

Ok. The question about the 9db.. can be applied also to other similar projects: I'm making this project again with similar characteristics, because i have found some better solutions in the source sound. Source is the basis.. so something will change, but same console view and settings. I will complete in a couple of days i think.. I will make the screenshot and send it here, so we will could analyze it. Should have no sense now make you loose time on old projects that they are been deleted. I will quote your message again when it's ready, so i think you will receive the notification.

Ok. I confirm. Only silence.

If i put the master in Mute, no sounds come off. If i press play all is mute. Only silence. Do you mean this kind of test?

Unfortunately i cannot make like this during the mixing process because all would go to red. I'm on the ceiling of the gain that it give me the permission to use to stay on "green zone". Also if i mix my track with a commercial backing track, is the same, i have to put it down if i want to use it. Now i would like also to analyze some points: 1)the quality of the source, if there is something that could be important. 2)try different limiters: with Limiter no6 i've reached some nice final results.. but to reach the same volume of other commercial videos, with a clean and nice sound, with this configuration, this audiocard, this setup.. not always is easy. There are different free plugins and i'm trying to get the differences using similar work. The problem of the lower final volume.. is that the people who listen have a bad impression if they change video and the difference in level is big. Also.. if they want to listen as the same level of other video they have to put up the volume of the speakers.. and with some speakers it will be a worse general clean in the sound.

It's a bit different the situation: the song doesn't have peaks that you can see at tracks level. Not withouth the Loudmax. It's not true that i'm trying to apply directly the limiter withouth have made before an analyze of the gains.. gain staging or other.. if you mean that the problem of the peak was due to the previous work...it was not like this. Yes.. my work can have some problems.. but the reality is a bit different. I worked on the gains and in the song there was "NO peaks problem" withouth loudmax. How you can see in this photo this is the value withouth loudmax: -6 is the peak of the final project( i mean the whole project). So it's much lower... The low LUFS in this particular project i think it's due also on a particular equalization. But the important it's not this: There are 2 points: 1)I've understood now.. thinkin of it,, that there was just one problem, in one track: one percussion on guitar. The sound of this little, little, soft, difficult to ear.. percussion. It was so thin that i didn't give importance to this.. but this caused peak only when the song is "powered" with some limiter adjustement. Like a butterfly effect. It was just this. This little sound.. with the empowering made the project skip the peak limit set from the limiter.. and go in the red just after the limiter process. That was the peak.. and that's why earing the song you shouldn't have the impression of where this peak was. The sound of this percussion was almost "invisible", and made the "peak fixed" of the limiter don't work, skip the level.. It's the first time that it happen to me.. Withouth this.. the peak set work perfectly with both the limiters(limiter no6 or Lodnmax). Don't go so high. I made it lot of times.. so.. i can just work on adjusting the peak of this particular sound, particular track. Withouth make nothing in the other tracks that are the "big part" of the work. And the "big work" didn't cause the peak. This is the important. 2) i have often a particularity: i reach a good sound staying on the green. Checking gains how is been usually reccomended me.. and withouth go to the red during the analysis of the gains... just i have a final volume of the project that is not pair to some commercial videos. I used that "setting" in the last part, to "empower" it withouth changing (or changing too much) the sound, usually works. After i can work on gains again and find other solutions.. for sure.. but i think was important say the particular nature of that peak and how i think it comes from before arranging other changing.

Hi. I'm trying to use Loudmax on my next project. The last one was made with Limiter no6. In this case how can you see in the photoes, it gave me much volume and it's important but i have a problem: The peak max. I've set Loudmax with the limit Out: -1 Db. As peak. LUFS are ok... but i have 0.3 on the Loudness meter measuring it! Why? You can see the photoes now. It seem that something isn't go good.

Yes. That's clear. I would have a question about if it's possible. About mastering but the two things are connected: For don't going to red.. and also too much orange.. i had to reduce the gain of the guitar and the level of backing track, to put them at the same level. The final level.. was too low and so.. i used limiter no6. I've put a peak on -1Db... as usual.. and put a little bit of enpowering. Now i have the same level of some commercial Youtube videos, very good level, -11.5 LUFS integrated that i can bring also to -12, it's not a problem, the sound seem to me clean for a homemade work. But: How you can see in the photo i had to put the gain of peak limiter menu at +8, threshold to -1, Mode soft etc.. Is that normal putting the gain to +8 or should i find another way? Is too much? Also i used in limiter, as you can see in the photo: compressor and protection. Another thing is this: If i would add also Loudmax as maximizer with some settings to Limiter no6 i could enpower it much more.. but i prefer don't make it. I didn't make it. The sound would result a bit compressed in that way and withouth real attack.

If for example i record a cover over a backing track, i have just 2 tracks. 1. Backing track. 2. Guitar theme and solo over the the backing track. I can have lot of different tracks if i cut the solo in different parts... but just 2 tracks play toghether at the same time. In that case could i considerate similar approach as single track? Or a bit lower.. For example -8db the guitar track, and -8db the backing track ?

This happen to me connecting directly the guitar to the audiocard and using just TH3 as amplifier simulator and effects. Also when i set the input level on the soundcard if i set it with TH3 on.. the automatic system reccomend me a very low input level, if i set it withouth with TH3 off, it reccomend me an higher level. Usually the persons sets at -18 the nude track and apply the effects after i see, but in that case with guitar the drop is really big, so i have a doubt on this.

If it use a different parameter of MIDI key i will change it in the next project. I will start directly with this Plugin eventually. I can't change the value now because if i make this i move also other parts that are written, and SSL would read it differently, and now they sounds good, i'm in the end of this project.

How the Splash Choke sounds to you in Slate Drum free edition and how you set his level, if it work obviously? It would be really interesting to know because you use the same VSt effect that i've selected. At the moment this is the one that seem to me plays better on my project. You could have a direct experience.

The midi map seemed me correct, but if i play on the piano roll, for example Db4, it plays Db2 in the map. This is the first point. I show you with a photo of map, i'm touching Db4 and you see Db2 in the map. I'm not expert in drum map, sorry, i don't know what does it mean. But the problem is not only this, for example one mute is the splash choke. All the chokes in the map seem muted or very low and impossible to ear. Not only the splash. The regulation of his level is the same of splash box and splash edge, but the other 2 have sounds.. the choke not. It's an example, it happen in different note that i ear like mute or too low. Here i tried to change the splash choke with splash with Crash right edge in the same key: C#2 49, now pressing this key, that in the piano roll il C#4 i ear a sound. It's not the sound that i want but i ear anything... never happened with the other plugin. I've tried lot.