paulo

4 hours ago, mettelus said:

That movie was what I thought you were referring to in the OP

I thought it was gonna be something about you know ........

...that thing we're not allowed to talk about

Cheap by Tone 2 standards. I don't really care for the name or about it TBH. I've never once picked what synth I'm about to use next based on what it's called. They make nice UI's and although pared down I do quite like this one. Seems quiet cpu friendlly too, but what I don't like is the lack of velocity control. Only had a quick twirl through the presets and most of them seem to be either on or off no matter how the key is struck. Probably not really aimed at the likes of me anyway, but that put's me right off it.

10 hours ago, Hatstand said:

You do realise that Mrs Mills LP's were used as an instrument of torture by parents in the 60's on their defenceless children.

Spitfire should be ashamed for dragging up these painful memories.

In my case that would be the Spitfire try to watch TV while your bi-polar cousin murders a violin library.

Followed soon after by the Spitfire given what happened with the violin, who on earth thought giving her a dulcimer was a good idea library.

On 3/26/2021 at 6:22 PM, Fleer said:

You never thought of when you’re 64? We’re almost there!

That's why he's trying not to think about it.

Given the thread title, this has all gone very OT. ?

Mix comes across nicely on laptop speakers. I like the way the vocal sounds so effortless and whatever you are using for reverb sounds nice.

As for crits (bearing in mind lappy speakers)  the vocal line at 2:36 is a little buried compared to the rest, a little sibilance here and there (1:25 as an example) and the string pad is too much there all the time for me and as the song progresses becomes almost annoying. If it were me in the production chair that is the main thing I would want to change.

1 hour ago, SteveStrummerUK said:

I didn't know you spoke fluent gibberish French Edwidge.

I heard that he often seamlessly slips into his second language........

Every time he laughs a little oui comes out.

I wonder if they will have a band called Les Forum Singes?

I knew that you would be unable to resist that one!

On 3/16/2021 at 9:50 PM, Fleer said:

When Bapu Met Larry

Should we now refer to them as Barry?

On 3/16/2021 at 9:35 PM, PavlovsCat said:

No offense....... But

Three words that are always followed by an insult..?

Very nice freebie for those that qualify.

6 minutes ago, Bapu said:

mm mmmm mmmmmmmoooo mmmmmmmmmooooooooooooobs

I meant the thing pointing towards your handman bag.

2 minutes ago, Brian Lawler said:

Intro price $69    Loyalty $49   For a limited time, then regular price $99

Then free with any purchase at plugin boutique...?

CH quiz question........

What is Bapu hiding under his shirt?

2 hours ago, craigb said:

Since it has music in the backing track, maybe this won't be deleted off-hand...

If the letters used in the title of the video were to be re-arranged and also have some added and some removed they could form a sentence that might cause offence to people who can't read if someone were to read it to them.

For this reason alone this thread should be deleted.

Love the Louis Armstrong quote

I guess we better let the OP have his thread back now or it might get deleted for being OT.

1 minute ago, aidan o driscoll said:

Actually in most cases .. locally anyway here in Cork .. we were allowed to leave the gear at the venue once we packed it in a corner and then collected AFTER NOON the following day back to rehearsal room

We had a couple of places likes that, but others wanted everything out before you left as they had other stuff going on the next day. For the out of town stuff it didn't really make any sense to have to go all the way back over there again the next day. 

2 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said:

THESE are the stories and times you remember and stay with you for life

Very true. Good times for sure although I didn't always enjoy the having to take all the gear back to the farm-based rehearsal room afterwards. Bit of a comedown - one minute you're getting free drinks for being in the band, two hours later you're a nobody carting PA speakers in the dark trying not to stand in cow pats.?

7 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said:

And have ye noticed .. Listening to the likes of THE 1975, The WEEKEND, M83 and lots of other artists these days in the charts .. Its now all unmistakenly 80s sound

Absolutely. Makes me feel like I was ahead of my time......?

10 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said:

They actually only had 4 songs and played them 3 times over at different tempo's and styles

We actually had one song that we often had to play twice because one guy who came to all local gigs always demanded an encore. For "artistic" reasons we deemed it a set opener, but after we were done he wasn't gonna go home until he had heard it again. We changed it up a bit for the reprise version. Nobody seemed to mind.

2 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said:

@paulo I hear you .. I assume most of those bands were still covers bands in the "Charity" event? For widespread Paid in ORIGINALS bands playing in pubs etc every week I have to go back to 80s.

As an aside you mentioned not great bands. I have a quick funny story on that. A local ORIGINALs band here in Cork did the circuit for a while .. there live set was about 12 ORIGINAL Tracks .. But here was the ingenuity  .. They actually only had 4 songs and played them 3 times over at different tempo's and styles

  

No, not at all, but many would throw a cover version (usually with a twist) into a set somewhere just for fun. Sometimes it was a useful tool to get the atmosphere going a bit if it was too quiet. 

4 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said:

So the interesting thing is will this be like the dog is not just for christmas OR will it take hold?

Or will we see the emergence of guitar playing dogs?

6 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said:

Back in the 80s, maybe until late 80s was when you could have a stab at making music ( in the band scene ) as a profession. Even as young wannabes there was a healthy local live circuit ( in Ireland and I imagine UK also ) where a band could do the local and national circuit on tour to pubs and the like and actually HAVE A COVER CHARGE at the door ( unbelievable  ), build a following and actually get on radio stations for interviews and plays etc. Back then it was all about original bands, if you played a cover you were blanked. Fans of the local bands followed them from venue to venue and knew there bands songs. Demo tapes and the like were the thing. It started to end about then.

Along came the 90s with its stock aiken and waterman type manufactured bands being commercially pushed to No 1 slot at Christmas and all that. the serious engineering started. Locally bands started switching to covers and pubs started having acts in on a thur fri etc FOR FREE, no cover charge. This of course started the devaluing of Music as a product. Right uop to late 90s i was involved in ORIGINALS BANDS but to survive they morphed to cover bands and for the next 10 years I stayed in that game and regret it .. it wrecked my love of music further wrecked by morphing into Wedding band.

And then the birth of the INTERNET as we know it happened in the 90s BUT the big event for the demise of music as an earner came in 1999/200 when NAPSTER happened. This further drove a nail into musics coffin further devaluing it because now you could download it all FOR FREE also. 

Onward we go through 2000s and napster died per say but then the whole online thing became commercialised via SPOTIFY ( founded 2006 ) and the like .. Itunes and then of course the IPHONE where you could devour your music for free or for very little. Also we had/have YOUTUBE .. FREE FREE FREE why would you even be spending 10 bucks a month on spotify for, its all on Youtube for nothing.

In parallel since the 80s another thing started to happen, the days where you bought an album with 10+ tracks on it and listened to it over time when the whole album grew on you .. that started to disappear, this was also the beginning of peoples attention span getting shorter and shorter right up to now where its absolutely about the SINGLE and even if you have your FREE music platforms all thats listened to for a short time is that one track from an artist. So ALBUMS as a money maker with all the ancilliary sleeves/jackets and inlays disappeared too.

So its 2020 .. free music everywhere, why should we pay for it ( esp younger generation, they know no better ), the "charts" commercialised to the nth degree. Record contracts and nurturing bands GONE. Yes, we have the internet with its alleged democratisation where all bands/artists can be free OF THE MAN and setup indie labels and sell there own music. To WHO .. that younger gen who now see no value what so ever in music .. its all free now.

As an aside to that when we were doing covers as a band up to 2010, yes we made a living ( soul destroying for a musician who was born out of original scene ) .. i was noticing a thing. Back in the day if a band was playing at a venue I remember being at pub gigs, concerts and many people who PAID to get in to see the local band standing in front of the band and watching on in awe at the musicians and meeting up after with the guitar player etc. A healthy interest.

Fast forward to 2010, WE were/are very good musicians, born out of years of live live live playing .. I remember being in a very busy pub doing our covers thing, hits of the day .. Killers and all that .. I was watching the people coming in the door as we played, 90% looking down at mobile, NONE looking up and even noticing a band was playing, no music fans standing in front of us soaking up the playing, the technique and so on. It was not an age thing .. us and them .. the broader point is there is no interest anymore really of being a guitarist etc. Was reading an article recently about this, guitar sales and other instrument sales in last decade have plummeted .. likes of YES Gibson ( smilie  for here at CW ) in trouble. Reason why by the way .. back to my point about short attention span, learning an instrument is just too difficult and takes too long, so why bother.

So to the core point of the OP .. NO its not the pandemic that has caused where MUSIC finds itself, this has been coming slowly but surely for decades as outlined above. All the pandemic has done is accelerated further its demise by now getting rid of even that living one might make as a  COVERS Music / Wedding band.  the structures like labels etc and a healthy originals scene and a public that VALUED music are now gone, how one might see a return of this, I have no clue.

Best you can do now ( as I am doing ) is in my case back to originals, and just recording and making new music, instrumental + also collaborating online with Singers and other musos I know and just getting back that feeling of creating. Sticking it up on likes of Bandcamp .. if it sells it sells if it doesnt sell, who cares. It aint a living but thats about it ( my living is IT and websites .. wolf from the door, just about )     

The thing that killed the live thing for the pub band scene where I lived was the change in the alcohol licensing laws that for whatever reason restricted live entertainment in pubs to duos/maybe a trio at best. The four/five man band was no longer welcome. Inevitably this mostly resulted in a singer and someone with a keyboard essentially doing karaoke being the only thing on offer. One band trimmed down to a three specifically for this reason with the bass player taking over vocals. Let's just say that there was probably a good reason why he took up playing bass.

Prior to this, despite being something of a rural backwater there was a very lively local scene, born mostly out of boredom really, but enough happening to mean that every week there would be 2/3 bands to see somewhere within walking distance. In honesty, some were not up to much, but the general feeling was that we'd rather watch someone at least having a go than a sterile rendition of a "classic" from the keyboard duo. Some were so bad that they were almost good and who couldn't enjoy seeing the quiet little guy who by day worked the counter at the post office transformed into a shirtless frenzy as he banged a tin tray on his head in time to a Ramones style cover of The Wild Rover ? A few of us found a way around the new rules when someone discovered a clause in the licensing laws that allowed a bar to be set up and operated in village halls as long as the event was in aid of charity, so we started with our own version of Live aid. The local pub was happy to provide the bar facility (why wouldn't they be? ) and the charity angle was covered by donating the money raised by the nominal door charge. Not a fantastic amount by any means, a few hundred, but it was never really about charity. Other events followed, but eventually, a local busybody objected to the amount of money the pub was clearly making out of a "charity" event and that was that. The hall was always "fully booked"  when further requests were made.