paulo

We should.

It's always in the last place you look.

UPDATE 2: I tried inserting a new instance of the same Kontakt library, but with a different patch selected and copied the same midi into it, froze that and it worked as would be expected, so it looks like it might be related to that particular setting within the Kontakt synth which at least explains why I have used it so many times before without encountering this problem.

Thanks for reply. I already tried moving the clip - that was covered in my update post.

Thanks. I didn't even know that was a thing. I'll look into it.

I don't understand the question... Same here, I always do exactly the same. I just noticed that in this problem instance if I moved it to zero after playing it worked, but it didn't work if left at other random now times. Maybe it's just a random issue that just happened to work ok when I set at zero but is not connected/

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It's funny that the prices of things that I have looked at the day before are never less than they were though. If price fluctuations are only driven by general supply/demand that would suggest that I just happen to only ever be looking at things that are in higher demand at that particular time? You may be right though. I honestly don't use it enough to care all that much. If Bezos depended upon me for his living, he'd have gone bust a long time ago.

Tell me about it. The amount of people that expect me to get out of bed for less than £1000 a day is unbelievable.

I can't even be bothered to get it for free.?

I never sign in until I'm actually ready to buy and in theory at least my browser is set to delete all cookies on closing and I quite often close it and reopen just to spite those sites that won't let you even look at anything without accepting their cookies, but yeah, they clearly know something about who is looking. I very rarely buy anything from Amazon anyway, so whatever they do doesn't do them much good in my case.

I have found that time and time again when just browsing on Amazon. It can't be just co-incidence that things that I looked at one day have so often gone up the next day. I guess it must work for them more often than they come up against someone like me who will just go elsewhere instead.

UPDATE: I still don't know why it happens, but I have figured out a way to make it not happen. Duplicating part of the clip to the very start of the project so that the bit where I really wanted it to start was no longer the first note at first worked perfectly in the sense that not only did the bit I wanted play ok, but the clip now at the very start also rendered perfectly........ Headscratch......so....... A note event that freezing the track won't render properly at the start of bar 25 is rendered perfectly when it's at zero along with the original note at 25. Removed the zero clip again and the note/event at 25 is once again not rendered properly. Put the duplicate clip back to zero, froze again and this time the zero note/event didn't render properly and neither did the one at 25. More headscratch........ Various trial and error tinkering later it becomes apparent that in order to stop this happening I need to first play the start of the track, then reset the now time to zero before freezing and then it works. If the now time is anywhere other than zero it doesn't render properly. A quick switch to an alt synth resulted in the note/event being rendered in the correct position so it does point to a possible CW/Kontakt issue, but I use this Kontakt library all the time and other similar ones and I've never had this before. Usually I just play the midi track through when I'm done editing etc, to make sure I'm happy with it and then freeze the track there and then wherever the play head is at and the track freezes just as you'd expect. So it's a weird one. I'll leave this open for now in case anyone knows a definitive answer as it's not really solved as such, but I know how to stop it happening now so it's more of a curiosity than anything now. Thanks again to those who replied.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean there. It's not offset as such, part of it is actually missing when frozen.

The son or the father?

Are you eyes very close to the screen as that's always been the easy way to see all the magic eye things for me ? I see the effect you mention here if I do the same on your image. Everything but the green meter bars goes backward.

I actually did see one somewhere in the last week or so which amazed me, but I can't remember what it was right now.

I guess I could try that if making the beginning passage not the beginning passage doesn't make a difference.

21H1 sounds like some kind of flu virus to me, lol!

Thanks for suggestion. I already tried that as I thought it might be a first note triggering issue , but it made no difference. I did think that maybe later I will try duplicating the whole opening clip earlier on in the track and see what happens then.

Fully aware of all that thank you. When CW can no longer install on anything less than win 10, I will just stick with whatever version that is until such time as a new computer is required which is when I will make the new OS decision. I'm not really into fixing things that aren't broken. I haven't even installed the last 3 or 4 CW updates because honestly I don't really see anything in them that makes me feel the need to do so.

Are there any days left that Americans don't have a holiday on?

But......but.......windows 10 is great, right? ......Anyone who hasn't updated their DAW PC to win 10 must be some kind of idiot.......

Thanks for reply, but I think you're missing the point. The frozen track is in the right place as such, it's just that the first part (note) is completely missing. Frozen tracks not being in exactly the same place as the corresponding midi track is indeed an issue I have often seen in CW, but this is not the same as that.

It's one of the Kontakt guitar libs, but I use it all the time and this is the first time I have had this problem, so even I can't reproduce it except in this case.