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Exactly.

I've defended Spectrasonics many times over the years to people saying that Omnisphere is too expensive, but I do think that they have somewhat lost the plot with the prices of these extensions.

Who do you think was playing the piano ?

Looks like you might have played that thing before Kenny.? Very nice playing.

TBF he actually does have his moments......

APD giving away apeshyt.... I guess it makes a change from trying to sell you bullshyt.

Also listed in their "sale" as being 2393% OFF, so that would make the "before sale" price ........... Answers on a postcard to Have PB been taken over by APD Competition PO Box 23355566777 Massive Discount Lane Bargainland. First correct answer drawn at random wins a PB exclusive calculator (aka broken)

No wonder he was angry.

This is quite common. Do you know there is actually a technical term for a guitarist that can only reliably count to four ? Bass player.

I've never seen a bag of rice that says how many grains are supposed to be in it.

Too late. Show me him plugging it in, tuning it and setting up the amp and fx with one finger and then he can call it a one finger audition. ?

There's nothing noble about it in my case. I'm just putting off the ball achingly painful exercise of setting up a new one until I have absolutely no other choice.? But yeah, as long as it still does the job, then why not ?

Thanks for the suggestion, but that's a whole load of work if I have to do that to every project. I'd rather just delete the hidden tracks and stop it that way. I had already been thinking of revising my template, so I might well do that if reverting to the earlier version is not possible. Currently, I still favour finding some way to get back to where I was because even if a new template solves the hidden tracks issue, as I said before it's not the only problem here. Maybe I'll just live with it until the next version and see if that fixes it. Thank you for trying to help me.

Thanks for reply Tim. Or should that be Lord ? ? It doesn't matter which project it is, it happens in all of them. Furthermore, the one I was using as an example for Bitflipper was created in the current version although it is based on the same template that all the others are which wasn't, so that is why I think whatever it is that was changed relates to templates somehow.

TBH I never use either, but I checked anyway and they are already set as you suggest. Thanks for replying.

I did that and all tabs say no problems found.

Noel and his team are great, but I am aware that I am running an old pc with an OS that they haven't tested on for some time and that means I accept certain risks and don't expect to cause them any work to bail me out if something stops working because of that. That's why I had been sticking with what I knew to work and also kept the various core versions aside because I thought it would be a case of just swapping them over. I'll try a bit harder to find where I read about that over the weekend. Meanwhile, in a bid to satisfy your curiosity I have discovered the following. If I open the same file in Platinum, it behaves as it did before. ie they remain hidden. Open it again in the current version and it put them back in but in console view only. The sync box is still checked and depending on what screen I open it on it will either hide them again in console view or unhide the folder again in track which I guess is what it's supposed to do. Open a new completely blank project add 10 tracks, hide five of them, save, close, reopen and they stay hidden. Then I opened a project that is based on my template that has never been opened before in this version and the hidden tracks show up in console view. So it would seem to me that at least I'm not going mad and this problem is definitely a CW version thing and not a pc thing that is somehow linked to sync status and templates. ^^^^ EDIT: In the same project hidden tracks that are not related to the original template remain hidden.

No. I can open a project hide the folder again, save it, close it, re-open it and it's back again. I haven't been documenting it or anything as at first I thought I was just going mad or maybe forgot to save after I changed it, but it comes back time after time. My projects are all set to open as track view left monitor and console view on the right so I see that the extra tracks are in the console view straight away. In track view I see just the closed folder and I could live with that, but in console view it's 5/6 tracks that I just don't need to see at all. In track manager window the keep track/console visibility in sync is checked as it always was. I don't doubt for one minute that you will have forgotten more about this stuff than I will ever know. I'm a PC user, I have no clue as to how they work. That said, the reason why I have several versions of the Cakewalk Core folder is because I read here way back when that it was a good idea to copy that folder, rename it as per version (ie Cakewalk Core 2020.09) and keep it somewhere before performing any update as protection against the update being problematic, hence why I hoped it was a simple case of swapping out those folders. It was quite a long time ago and I can't remember who posted that now - I tried a search, but have a guess how many pages of results you get if the word cakewalk is in the search criteria..?

Thanks for reply Mark. It's even older and less powerful than that. The PSU is a hamster on a wheel. It could be an unrelated coincidence which is I was hoping that reverting to my previous version would also demonstrate that one way or other. Because there are several different things happening I was trying not to put anyone to any trouble, least of all you guys who I'm sure have bigger and better things to do, by not diving any deeper than what I hoped was the simple solution. I will try what you suggest later. I think the re-appearing folders/tracks might be template related though as the ones that keep reappearing are in my regular starting template, but no longer required once I'm past tracking stage, so usually I just hide them out of the way and they stay like that. I guess I could delete them instead and that would solve that problem, but I've done it this way for years and it didn't used to happen so it seems to me that something in CW has changed in this regard, but obviously I don't know when...could have been any version between 2020.09 and now.

Impressive. I'm still on Creative Triangle Techniques for Beginners.

I deliberately didn't to avoid the inevitable trudge down the I've got a new gazillion core hyper fandabbiedoubledozy pc and it's works just great for me so it's your wrinkly old pc that is the problem path. This may be so, but the fact remains that pet peeve aside (which still remains) 2020.09 worked just fine for me, hence why I stuck with it for so long. This time when it wanted reactivation I came over all positive and broke my own rule of not fixing something that wasn't broken. Proof, if ever needed, that positivity is for people who actively seek disappointment. ? But seeing as you asked.......It's generally just more laggy for want of better word. Playback efficiency is worse (by which I mean some projects that were admittedly probably pushing at the edges of what the PC is capable of in terms of plug-ins just freeze up randomly now) UI sometimes slow to respond during playback, random plug-in windows open up when I'm not even touching anything and touching anything at this point will cause everything other than the actual audio playback to completely freeze/grey out. If I'm lucky it will right itself and not crash. (50/50) Hidden folders/tracks (and saved that way) are reinstated next time I open the project, so I have to hide them again, save again and next time they'll be back again......all this and more...... So yeah, certainly enough to do your head in after a while. I use it most days for an hour or two and I can't remember the last session where I didn't have something occur that didn't used to happen. I wasn't asking for analysis of the problems, so all of the above is not really relevant to the question. I just wanted to know how to go back to 2020.09. Thanks for replying.

At the beginning of the year when my offline DAW pc wanted CW to be reactivated I updated from 2020.09 to the newest version. Short version of the story ... wish I hadn't ....it's doing my head in....how do I go back to 2020.09? Is it as easy as just replacing the current Cakewalk Core folder with the 2020.09 version that I still have or will that find me in a world of pain ? Or, can two versions exist at the same time ? TIA UPDATE: Some misinformation in the OP . I ran the update on 7th Jan 2023 so assumed that what I now had was the latest version, but according to Help>About Cakewalk what I actually have is 2022.02 build 039. @msmcleodcould this explain why I'm having problems ? I've downloaded the 2022.11 installer today but haven't installed it yet.

Yeah, I was referring more to the idea of the part being "inspiring" or not and the fact that we are probably all bit guilty at times of obsessing on the minutiae that 99.9% of listeners won't even notice. I usually use one of the loops that come with CW, the Groovemate One freebie from UJAM or just play something in myself and then tidy up the midi as required. I have been known to stick a flanger on the track which helps to make it sound less repetitive.

No. It should be "it in".

I find that understanding that nobody at all is even going to notice the tambourine part helps me. "What I really love about that song was the imaginative playing of the tambourine" said Nobody Ever.