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That was real.

Yeah you should!!! You know us!! LOL!! ?

Well I did go read it. Well I went and found it and remembered reading some of it!!! At $199 just for the Mix & Master Advance, is not a bad deal. I already have OA9. And I don't know where I got that from!! I thought I was waiting for MPx to come out and get in on that!! And Neutron 4 they want $149!!

Don't let that be the factor that stops you from getting it. Everytime I open up EZD3 I am glad I upgraded!! It really looks much better and sounds much better too. That last part seems to kinda get lost in all the hoopla over the Bandmate and the new GUI. Then new kits that come with it are good. Really good.

I don't think so. It's pretty much "Buyer Beware!!"

I figured that, but I ain't caught on to it yet. Guess I should try some simple stuff first to get use to it. With EZ Bass there was a learning curve, but it's working well for me now.

Then Larry will:

Nope. Not me. Though the 'Band Mate" feature ain't working quite as well as it does in EZ Bass. But I didn't upgrade for that.

Because your a good person Kenny. We see that!! How they say that now? Your the real deal!! I will check out that "The Gear Page" you just mentioned. Thanks

I always add a bass sim to EZB. In CWbB it's just a matter of placing the sim in the fx rack of the audio output of the sim.

That confirms my speculation of the seller!! LOL!!

Neither did I!!!

Kenny, I was wrong. I am not a member of The Les Paul Forum. It's another LP forum I belong to. I will try to go there and see what I can find out. Thanks a lot for the advise. Appreciate it.

You are almost correct in the removal method. With the strings off, hold the guitar in the regular sitting playing position. With your right hand hold the bout by the pickup selector switch and lay your right forearm across the rest of the body to get a firm grip on the guitar. Now place your left hand palm (the heel part, bottom part of you left palm) under the heel of the neck joint, with your fingers around the fretboard. Now with you right arm lift your hand up (with right elbow still holding the body) in preparation to smack the top of the bout in a downward fashion with some force. When you do that motion, at the same time as you smack it, you have to push up (with some force) on the heel joint and at the same time let the headstock and neck move towards the left side of your body. And the neck just comes off!! This sounds much more complicated than it really is. It really is simple when you know how to work that left hand. That's the part that I have forgotten about. Exactly how to "push and tilt" the neck when I hit it. Believe me, I have tried!! I also know that if you ain't got it right, there maybe a chance of breaking the joint in which case the guitar is ruined. It still goes through my head, how in the world did that guitar tech know the neck came off like that? Because otherwise, it looks like any other LP I have ever seen!!

@Starship Krupa I think you are hitting on something here. This LP may have been a prototype, with efficiency the ultimate goal!! Think about it; a joint made by machines that can just be snapped into place!! It would be perfectly in line already. No need to glue it in (a cost/time saving method). When it needs to be removed for repairs no need to do all the bs now required. Just take the strings off and snap it off!!

I did some more research and you are correct. And now I understand why. Wow!! I am so glad I came here to talk about this and ask questions. It seems that I have been somewhat unknowingly misleading everyone. The neck joint is not the traditional dove tail that I have seen on youtube videos. Now I understand why everyone reacts the way they do when I tell them it's an unglued dovetail joint!! Best I can describe it, is a "locking dovetail" joint. It does have the traditional triangle shape of a dovetail joint, but it does not have straight angles on it. They are curve/rounded. If you seen it removed and put back, you would understand why it was made that way. When I take the strings off, the neck is still solid. Does not move! It won't fall off. And unless you know that special way to take it off, it ain't coming off!! It's that solid! When whammy bars first hit the scene, I wasn't going to mod/rout my LP to put no tremolo on it!! I would instead grab the head (where the tuners are) and bend the neck to get a de-tuning effect!! No, that guitar has been played baby!! Make no mistake. That neck is solid!!

I really can't say what his intentions were, I can only speculate. However, I played the hell out that guitar!! Still do!! : )

Yep a no brains-er for sure. But they offer it knowing that they have a real good chance of selling it!!!

Agreed. I went to them. There were some guys that worked in the plant that are/were members. They said the same thing the guy on the phone did: Anything is possible!! Thanks for the Gibson forum. Never been there. Will ask over there.

Actually, that's a very pertinent question. At the time the guitar tech brought me in the back to see my LP apart, this question never occurred to me. However, after becoming more educated on the subject, that was the exact question I asked; Why did he take that neck off? How did he know it came apart? How did he know how to take it apart? As I said in the story, I kept taking it apart when I was doing a good cleaning but stopped after a while because of it wearing the joint out. But again, why did the tech take it apart and show it to me? I think he was trying to tell me I had something special. And he also knew I had no clue what I had!! But I know now!!

You said a lot right there!! From what I learned there was a lot of 'experimenting' going on at that time. Here are some other pics Look at the Volume/Tone Pot cavity. You can see that the pots look like they mounted on a metal plate. Haven't seen nothing like this around any other LP pics I have been able to find.

@DeeringAmps Here are some pics. The neck p/u cavity. As you can see no long tendon. Here is what is the "smoking gun" so to speak. In this pic you can see that the finish has been cracked by the neck being removed.

When I had my first real good paying job (grain surveyor), the first paycheck I got I called the music store (Rock World Music on Veterans Blvd, Metairie La.) and asked if they had a natural finished LP. They said yes, that it was little over $600. Being I was at work at the time, I gave the cash to a friend and sent him to go pick it up. He brought me back a natural blonde finished LP Standard. I got it sight unseen and never even played it before I bought it!! I knew little to nothing about maintaining a guitar back then, so I brought it back to Rock World Music to get the strings changed and a basic setup. I was looking in the store (I was eyeing a pedal that they said sounded great, a Roland Chorus, that I didn't buy, big regret!!) at other guitars and stuff when the guitar tech came on the floor, found me, and told me to follow him in the work room. When I got back there he asked me "Did you know your guitar did this?" and he showed me the neck in one hand and the body laying on the bench. I told him no I didn't know it did that. Looking back on it years later I realized he was trying to tell me something. But in my ignorance I just didn't get it. So he demonstrated to me how to take it apart, and I did it right there in front of him. He finished with the setup and I took the guitar home. Still not knowing what I had, I would take the guitar apart and clean it all around the neck real good. After a while I realized that if I keep taking this neck off the guitar it would eventually wear the dovetail joint out. So I quit doing it. Never thought much about it at all after that. Got into a band where the other guitar player had previously worked in a guitar repair shop. And he was talking about how many times he had put irons and a towel on the back of a LP to get the neck off. When I told him my neck wasn't glued, it was a dovetail joint, he said I was nuts. All LP have a glued in neck he insisted. Some years later I called Gibson (because back then they had a lifetime warranty) to see about getting my neck glued in. (Still had no clue whatsoever!!!) The guy that answered the phone talked to me a good while because I told him the story of the guitar (that conversation is another story in itself!!). He told me that it was very rare to have a dovetail joint on a LP, but back in those days (the Norlin era) they were trying different things so it wasn't beyond the realm of possibilities. I wish I would have gotten his name, but like I keep pointing out, I just had no clue!! Then the internet explodes and I figure now I can find somebody who will know how to take this thing apart and I can get pics of it to prove what I am saying is true. I haven't had much luck. Hung around forums, looked high and low, but no one has any idea what I am talking about. Here is what I think happened with me ending up with this guitar. It was a special order for someone in the New Orleans area. When my friend walked in the store to pick up my "Natural Finish LP" a unknowing salesman sold him that special order guitar. When I brought the guitar in to get the setup, the guitar tech knew that guitar. That's how he knew the neck came off like that. There is no other way to tell. Unless you knew it was a special guitar in the first place. And when he showed me that it came apart, he was trying to tell this long haired dufus what he really had. I just had no clue at all! And that's the story. I have to go to my other computer to post the pics I have.

Gotta go cut grass before it rains. But I will tell the tale. You asked!! : ) I have asked every guitar luthier I have been too and they all gave me that 'look'!! Yes I will post some later after the grass gets cut. No long neck tendon. It is not shaped like any LP set-in neck that I have seen. I have pics of the neck pu cavity I will post.

Not the exact workaround I was hoping for!! LOL!