Bass Guitar

An update to this is I tried it in Studio one and it said that it needed ARA2 to work? I followed the instructions which said to insert it in the effects bin. That seems wrong to me. Anyhow Sonar wins the user experience contest for tonight. Playing with it a bit more I think that it is much better results than Melodyne. The only glitches are simply that guitar chords have subtle pitch bends involved and the audio to midi doesn’t do any CC bends. So changes are very abrupt. Otherwise it tracks flawlessly unlike Melodyne which doesn’t. So this is looking like it will require a lot less editing and save time. Later I’ll test a bass part as well as look into if it does drums.

It works just fine, I downloaded the demo, it was all very easy to install, it's a VST3. But as said, it is a Regional effect. Was very fast and I didn't read any instructions at all. There's a button says drag to your Daw. Done. I tried it on a rhythm electric guitar part, then dragged it to Strum Session it has the typical glitches that you always get and require a bit of editing of the midi file. $100 on sale is a reasonable price, but for me I already have this feature in Sonar, Mixcraft and Studio one. I will still test it to see if it does this a bit better than the others. This is a feature I use a lot mostly to convert my real bass into midi. The feature has been part of Sonar since I think X3. Even Home Studio did this. Sonar uses Melodyne. Not sure what Mixcraft and S1 use.

Got it. A test would be to try exporting as a regular stereo wave file and test that into You lean. If it stays correct then your difference is either the mono summing or the Mp3, most likely the mono summing. If you have the paid version of You Lean it allows drag and drop instant readings which to me is a huge time saver. Everything I export including videos gets dropped into it. I keep the stand alone version on my desktop. The other thing I do is I have never liked Sonars MP3 export. I use a Wave Editor called Gold Wave. You can use it for free. But I also paid for the lifetime license. I has a batch converter that can convert into all possible formats. There’s a lot of choices for MP3. I like that it always remembers my settings. It will convert as many files as possible which is great for albums and archiving my Narration files. Im new to Audacity so not sure but I bet it also has a way better MP3 export. It was a long time ago but I remember being told that you need to back off a tiny bit for MP3 files at lower resolutions. The same song as a Wave file might be - 1.0 but as an MP3 it might hit 0. So what I do is export my songs @ -1.2 db and -14 LUFS.

Probably a MP 3. That will also change peak and RMS levels. Also Boost11 like many limiters can pass a certain amount that is not always the same as the setting. You Lean is very accurate compared to many other meters. But it has to be very last in the signal path. Also I have observed that I will often see a different reading between real time and then when I drag the audio into You Learn Stand alone which will quickly analyze the audio. That is a more accurate reading. But as @reginaldStjohn has said summing to mono will increase the level. If the track is a mono track simply export it as a mono stem. Tracks/ no effects or automation. Not sure why you are using MP3 as that as well can mess with the levels.

It would seem that you are using a monitoring system while mixing that is not translating into the real world. You need to sort that out. It doesn’t matter what you use , if it doesn’t sound right in the real world it needs to be changed or you will be guessing. Your screenshots show that you seem to have decent levels. A Console view would show more. But Span if that is on the master and if the master is the source for export that looks pretty normal. Buy the way you just need to drag and drop the pictures to the bottom of your post. I see you have Windows set for 48 / 24 but your project is set for 44.1 / 16. And in export you have dithering turned off. It is recommended to avoid issues to keep Windows and your Daw set to same Sample Rate. And not sure what audio interface you are using but most are 24 bit so any recordings are going to be 24 bit. And Sonars rendering is actually 32 bit. If you have some reason you are only using 16 bit it might be a good idea to turn on dithering . Are you using an audio interface to record? Or somehow using the Jack on the laptop?

First thing I do when troubleshooting. Restart computer and interface. I think they are using budget servers somewhere in the jungle. Everything about connectivity is very poor.

And where is the playback now time when this happens?

Screenshots of console view! With project playing. And please use proper screenshots not your cell phone.

No. It has a crown and if you read what Jesse posted you will see in bold print that Membership is required. It’s nothing to get excited about yet but it’s a start. Still no way to brighten the background of the PRV.

Ok, so why is there the confusion here! Why is that Reporting link I used even posted if it is more or less useless? Please clear up your internet presence. There’s way too many dead end when you try and find anything to do with Sonar. I am in the habit of simply typing in whatever I am looking for. I can safely say that this always gets me what I need in the case of most all companies. Software or hardware. Example, users guides, Downloads, purchases and products. These are clearly available on just one web site that is usually organized and easily navigated. But using keywords for Sonar results in dozens of weird results including the legacy website dominance still. And there’s no main website that I can see. You often end up in your Bandlab account which has zero value for Sonar users. Go ahead and try it for yourself. There’s no point in producing a brilliant piece of software if the world can’t even find it. Just pick any other Daw and observe what they are doing on their websites. Observe what google presents if you type in the name of any other Daw. Then try typing in Sonar and see what a mess you get.

The one I’ve always used is you Google Sonar support and on that page it asks you log in and the submit a request

I’m in same situation. I just upgraded to Cubase 15. I have also been learning S1. I don’t think this intended by what is left of the Cakewalk staff. I think it’s a very small crew now. I have noticed that even Noel rarely answers questions here lately.

A contaminated project is what we often call projects that are abnormal and behaving weird. There is often no explanation, it is simply that the project has issues that cannot be resolved. I think just about everyone who has used Sonar for a long time has run into this situation. After all, it’s pretty complicated software and all it takes is one little bite out of place. Lots of things outside the software can cause this like a bad sector on a hard drive. So when this happens instead of trying to figure out “why “ it is often easier to just rebuild the project in a fresh new environment. Often this can be done by opening a blank project beside the old project and then dragging and dropping track by track. Did you try the drop down menu for source? In

I haven’t looked here in a long time and I was thinking it seems to need a little housekeeping. There is bunch typical questions that belong in the regular discussion forums. And I had asked to have a few of mine removed and they are still posted. No big deal but thought I’d bring it to attention. Thanks.

So that is what I thought you were saying. In other words you see the exact settings shown in my screen shot but the source dialogue is empty? What happens if you click on the drop down menu above and choose other options? Is that also blank? It might be a contaminated project otherwise. All you can try then is to start a fresh project and drag everything to it. I’ve had to do that myself a few times.

Did you try using one of the presets? For mixdown this is usually “Entire Mix” Below is what the default would look like. Notice the tracks and buses are not even selected but still the export included everything going to the Hardware outputs. I didn't set any Start or end markers on this project, I usually do.

This is exactly what I got. I added a note telling them that I was trying to upload the crash report but that is the same message I got. it’s been 5 days and I still haven’t received any response at all. In the past I would get an instant reply from the auto response. Then someone would respond and hand out boilerplate information. Doesn’t matter to me. I’ve figured out what is wrong on my own. In the end last time they never followed through with any explanation. It seems like you might get better answers posting in the feedback section.

Thanks for the beginning of bringing back customization. I hope there is a plan to adjust the background for the PRV . I really can’t see very well in the dark. It’s actually the only thing I dislike. I appreciate the way you can experiment with the background and foreground in real time. I managed to get the labels to show better. Thanks.

The conclusion that I have come to is that Cloning is never as dependable as a fresh start. I won’t be doing that again! When I think back , I was having a bunch of issues and that was why I decided it was time for a new computer. It all makes sense now. Today I fixed the 30 or so crashing projects. They all opened no problem on the Laptop. All I did was open then and save them. I transferred them back to the main computer and they all open with out any problems now. Id still be curious about why they didn’t crash on the laptop. It still feels like something is on the edge on my main computer.

Seems there is an actual person.

I think I might have found the reason why all the projects that I worked on in the Spring of 2023 are corrupted. I went back to page 37 of the Cakewalk forum and I noticed a post by me chatting about the news of Sonar and Next. In the post I mentioned how I had just bought 3 new SSD drives and upgraded my computer. I remember clearly that I used the Samsung Magician to clone my C drive! I also mentioned having a bunch of gigs coming up. Put 2 and 2 together and that would have me working on a few backing tracks and that that state of Cakewalk was buggered by the cloning process. A few ones and zeros were wrong somewhere in the Cakewalk code. The dates line up perfectly as the next update was in late August or early September. The update repaired Cakewalk. And it’s just something in the pro channel code that got corrupted. That computer was replaced by a brand new build on Nov 15 that year. Anyways this forum is a great resource for tracking your own personal history!

I probably was just in a hurry to create the account and that popped into my head. It is a 100 % never have I called myself that or have I met the guy. And of all the jobs I’ve had in audio I have never been the Backline tech. Does carting amps from the van qualify?

There are plenty of good quality free reverbs. I have a collection of about 20 I think. And if you’re a long time Sonar user you should have Lexicon Somewhere. That is a good one.

The phrase "Lifetime" is often used with software to tell you that the license will not expire. It doesn't say "Lifetime Updates. " We only heard that once from Gibson didn't we. And the Term Lifetime is not an exact science. That link is above takes you to a way overpriced deal. this is what is currently on the web site. I'm tempted because the last upgrade for me to 21 had a lot of improvements, especially in stability. It rarely crashes anymore. I know it's not the top of the heap, but neither is Sonar. I like it's Daw like interface. And the fact you can open the audio tracks in a wave editor. I have it set for Wave Lab.

Great. Now we can all see who the Hogs are! I think I’ll try this out on my collection of Drum VST’s.