Bass Guitar

You guys are confusing me? I always thought that the copy audio box in the save dialogue was so that all the audio in the project you are saving gets put in the project audio folder. In my world if you uncheck that Copy Audio box the Audio will not be stored in the Project folders audio folder. This is especially true when you use “Save As “ to a different location. As well as if I start a new project even if there is no audio recorded yet that is how I get the project to be in its own folder. I only uncheck that box if I’m creating a midi only version of a project and using Save As to a different location. That will just create a CWP icon. No folders. See screenshot.

I Googled it-Heres AI explains FBX is a proprietary file format (.fbx) developed by Autodesk for 3D content creation software. It is used to exchange data between different digital content creation (DCC) applications and is commonly used in game development, film, and general 3D production. While Cakewalk is primarily an audio and MIDI software, the context of an "FBX" file within it would likely relate to importing or exporting data that links with visual or game development elements (like 3D models or animation data) that use the FBX format. For example, a user might work with video within Cakewalk and need to ensure the project can be synced with assets in a 3D program.

Ya good question. For me coming from the Atari and DrT KCS and the original Atari Cubase I was used to entering that information in the Event List. When the Atari finally died in 2003 I was forced to go with a PC. I just so happened to have a copy of Cakewalk Guitar Studio. I found out the event list really sucked and couldn’t figure out how to edit or enter PG changes. That took 20 years to figure out. I gave up. If a download midi file had a PG or CC 7 event it drove me crazy. I found a free simple midi sequencing app and had no problem opening the file and editing it in that. I eventually learned that the track header was what overrides this data as well as if I deleted the empty space at the beginning of the track I regained control. But yes I too think that the Event list should be like it was in 1985 and should show all midi data, not just some. The Tempo isn’t even listed? They won’t be improving the event list, the Staff Veiw or the Playlist. The user base has changed. It’s all drag and drop pre made music now.

I think that’s just it. I do believe that the group of us who have Sonar Platinum which we always install first to get a that stuff we paid for. People who started out with the free Cakewalk didn’t have a lot of things we got from the Legacy versions. And it’s a long list of things that I definitely need and want. With the release of new Sonar they are now slowly offering some of that content from the Legacy series but only if you subscribe. So that is why you see that option in the Product Centre. It is for the users who only used Cakewalk or are brand new to Sonar. I sure hope that we will have access to the Command Centre in the future. They really don’t need to make it available. It’s a good thing Cakewalk staff are still working for us. I think without them we would have lost that in 2018.

Another example was Addictive Drums. When they released the VST 3 version none of my presets showed. I have at least 30. It was blank. But it did seem to load up projects with all the correct settings and kit pieces. I had to manually re save them which was becoming a PITB so I just reverted back to the VST 2 version. Last night I upgraded to the paid version of Steven Slate drums for only $50 Black Friday deals. I’ve lost interest in Addictive Drums. this situation the OP is in has happened a few times to me so I am in the habit of freezing all my synths and using save as to store them in a safe place. That’s the way to make sure your sounds are future proof. Ad then keep the old version installed and what you can do is put it on the excluded list. Then if you open a project that used it just re include it.

A few years ago I made a tutorial on this very topic that shows how you can have all sorts of different views and that most are all independently floating and then there’s different docking options as shown in @Glenn Stanton example. Then the shortcuts make all this work very easily. My understanding of how to use all the various view features makes it easier to use only one monitor. The blue highlighted docking options are important as you float the view. Some things that are in the Browser can be put in the multi dock. That way all you need are the tabs at the bottom to get at just about everything. And did you know that the track pane is the only view that you can’t hide or float. You can only shrink it by dragging the dividers. Any how that video only got under 100 views so I removed it Seems learning about views in Cakewalk was not a hot topic. Bottom line is it was all very customizable in Cakewalk. If you are using the free version I am finding that this sort of stuff doesn’t work like it used to. It’s the ghost living in the new graphics.

Yep First thing I do. I don’t like the new version at all. Im using Platinum now and it has a wonderful start screen that works as it should. And it doesn’t interfere with using the file menu or even opening from the browser. It just politely closes if you click anything else.

This! I have always had the 2 monitors so my default was the Multi Dock floated to second monitor. But sometimes when working with Melodyne I wanted the Multi Dock view of Melodyne editor open below the track I was working on. That’s why I loved it when they introduced Workspaces. I could now set that up and save it. Over time I have abandoned using the second monitor for the Multi Dock in favour of using the one screen and toggling using D to open the multi dock 3/4 screen. I need my second monitor more for doing other things. The Browser and Inspector are mostly hidden. You get very used to using the shortcuts I - D and B. I know a lot of people don’t use Workspaces but I sure did. I said did because I don’t have them anymore due to using Platinum. And I guess they are also missing from the free version. Im back to putting up with the stupid mindless screen-sets. I hate them.

That’s the multi dock open full screen. it will be hidden behind that view. Float it. Now as you drag it down the bottom will turn blue to show you where it is legal to dock. As you move it up and down you will see that in the upper area the inspector and the browser are not blocked off but if you move it down the blue bar will go full screen and you won’t see the inspector. I thought you were not seeing it in the track view.

Good to know. But Studio one, Mixcraft and a few others I have demoed don’t. Yes custom keybindings are very important but I have yet to use a Daw that doesn’t have that. I immediately change the rewind button to W! I found it interesting that Vegas used that same keyboard shortcut. The other one is the R shortcut. It’s muscle memory. That great that you are immersing yourself in music no matter what style. Keeps the old brain going.

When you try other Daw’s you will see that Cakewalk and Cubase have been around since day one in using midi. They seem to me to have the very best capabilities for all these different use cases for midi hardware and software. And there are more than you can imagine. Go see if you can do something easy like assign a different patch and bank in all those other Daw’s. It’s not there! Nobody else has an event list. I have never used it but I would hope Ableton live has strong mid routing capabilities as it seems popular with hardware enthusiasts. It seems most daw’s now are focusing on drag and drop creators. Cakewalks Next is a good example. A lot of midi hardware that was designed for routing midi seems to have disappeared from the market. Like my Roland A880 midi patch bay. That was a lifesaver in my days of live midi performance. I set it to channel 16. It could reroute 8 inputs and 8 outputs. A lot of my old midi files still have the channel 16 patches in them. I should have never sold it. I see some on EBay and Reverb. Tempted. And if you owned it then your problem would be solved. Oh, I forgot, it’s not USB.

There have been several graphic related glitches in the new Sonar Ive both seen reported here as well as I have a few myself. So possibly this is yet another example. Take screenshots and open a ticket with support. Post the screenshot here too as we might spot something. One thing I can think of is if at some point the project was saved when floating. I have the free version myself and due to the lack of workspace s it’s a royal pain. Every project opens weird and I have to manually move stuff around. My latest graphic glitch is If I open the Browser in existing projects the instrument tab is highlighted but it’s showing the list of effects. It doesn’t do this with new projects. I wrote it off as happening just because I probably saved my workspace in Cakewalk and the instrument tab was my default. I think the effects tab is the default. The other one was in the export dialogue but they fixed it after being reported. So that is why I recommend reporting directly to support and not just here.

@Byron Dickens I was just in the process of redoing my back up Laptop so I did fresh installation of Band in a Box and Sonar Platinum. The VST SynthFont did not show up in Sonar just as expected. And ya the plug in is most certainly hidden deep in the bowels of the BB folder. I had to use Search to find it. So I copied and then pasted it into the Steinberg VST folder. So there’s still the original where BB wants it to be. Sonar found it and it opens and yes it is showing a Trial 15 day period.But then I found out I had not authorized BiaB. So I registered BiaB and now the VST synthfont is not in demo mode.

I explained how to prevent this by using midi channels. As I said I used Sonar Live and had no problem playing the synth I needed. I see no issue with using 2 controllers either. You just choose the channel you want to use. To here the sound input Echo has to be on and you can set it to be Globally on for all instruments. I don't know how many people have explained what input echo is for but somehow your not understanding that. Its a simple matter of not desiring how you think it should work it's a matter of understanding how it does work and learn that so you can take control.

Actually I have Steinberg Wave Lab 12 set up in the tools. But honestly over time I rarely use it because I use Melodyne for surgery on my audio tracks. Clicks and pops are pretty obvious.

And this is the simple solution to your request. If it was of importance possibly one could create a keyboard shortcut that ran one of those macros that opened the dialogue. Otherwise what you want is that that dialogue was accessible from the main work area, example if I click on the metronome icon it opens the settings. So that would be a feature request. I personally would vote for this as I often need to access the midi outputs. But it really takes a few seconds to get there and it stays on that tab each time I open preferences during that days sessions. If we request a midi devices icon they will make it so small we would not find it anyhow 😐

@Byron Dickens I’ll contact Kenneth the developer and ask about this. They might have recently locked it to BiaB. In the past it just showed up in Cakewalk. Coyote definitely is working but it is free. I have the 14.90 Euro version of VST SynthFont because I wanted the VST 3 version. I also like supporting these small developers. Kenneth has been working with me to sort out a few issues I had with the Midi Sound Synth. Midi files saved from Sonar are not working properly.

I haven’t heard of this happening for years. What OS are you using and what are you using for your audio playback? If you don’t have an audio interface it’s common to have different audio issues using any Daw. And then make sure you go into Windows sound settings and choose a default sample rate that matches what you use in Sonar. If you watch a lot of videos then 48 is probably best. Also if you don’t have any interface set Sonar to use WASAPI shared mode and use your computers sound card not HDMI or any other 3rd party driver. Do not try and use ASIO unless you do have an interface.

Exactly. The mute and input echo only involve the audio generated by the Soft Synth. Midi data is not stopped. And if you have selected midi output in the VST as well as a hardware output in midi preferences devices then your controller will pass through to the hardware. You need to disable midi output in the soft synth or preferences. input echo , or often called Track Monitor, is used during recording or live performance so you can hear the audio from the soft synth. It is not needed for playback. The mute button is obvious to it’s function but it is used to mute the audio output of the synth. It doesn’t mute midi. You’ll still see activity on the midi meters. To stop midi from going to a track you need to select an unused input source. Selecting None normally means that everything is available. You can also assign midi channels. I used Sonar as my keyboard rig at a few gigs. I had 7 different VST instruments each assigned a different input channel. I turned on Global input Echo. My Roland A49 only has 2 control knobs. I used midi learn to control the volume as well as chorus or ? I just changed output channels to change instruments. Was very dependable system but I had to make sure I connected the keyboard before I started Sonar. Otherwise it would revert back to None and everything played at once. I’d have to reassign the channels again.

I had a free app called STeem that was an Atari emulator but it only works on Windows XP. All the software I used for almost 15 years was now available for free on Tim’s Atari world website. I guess that all the developers were long gone. But one was the same version of Cubase I had previously purchased for I think $300 back when. It had a note saying Steinberg approved of the free version as a historical artifact.

Mixcraft included some incredible synths and one is a great mini moog. It’s included in the basic version of Mixcraft that is Black Friday special $20. Im pretty sure that it works in other Daw’s I’ll test it out tomorrow. And I see @Byron Dickensmentions Cherry Audio Thats some of the free stuff also available in the store tab. When I first discovered all the included instruments I spent a whole evening having more fun than Ive ever had playing synths. Im not sure what you get in the demo For the price I paid I just bought it after 2 hours of testing. It’s my favourite now even though it has its shortcomings. They all do.

My friend has a 64 Fender Princeton it is Brown. No reverb just tremolo like my 72. It is 100 % original never been modified. He bought it in 1972 for $50. It is now valued at between $6,000 to 9,000. And now I see people buying old music gear from the 80’ for stupid prices. This is junk some of us tossed in the trash 10 years ago because it sounded terrible to us. Like Peavey guitar amps. But software has a short lifespan and even if it had good sound quality it becomes left in the dust by changing OS and formats. Of all things musical that we have invested money into, software definitely has zero re-sale value. So don’t laugh at all of us who are still hanging on to our old hardware synths of which two I own are from 1992. They are becoming worth more as time goes buy while that Software synth you paid $100 for in 2005 is now probably worth nothing and no longer works in your 64 bit Daw. Sonar and Reaper seem to be the only ones that still support Dx. I think you will see a day that they will be forced to finally abandon it. I stopped using them a few years ago. Even in Vegas all of their plugins are DX so I now use 3rd party VST instead. Defiantly I’ve stopped using 32 bit for at least 5 years now. Just not worth taking the risk of issues. Now we are watching the end of VST 2 . But my 1990 hardware will always work fine until they stop making interfaces with 5 pin midi.

I made a video a year ago about how to save the TTS-1 etc I removed it as I realized that Roland might not like that. In reality I don’t think Bandlab bought any license for it. It was just embedded in the Sonar Platinum code. It was probably just overlooked for all those Bandlab Cakewalk years. If you look at the history, it came into play in Sonar even before Roland took over Cakewalk. It says that they were only in a partnership. Then possibly because Gibson bought Cakewalk from Roland the licensing was cool. But Bandlab only paid for the intellectual property of Cakewalk,. We were to understand that means just the actual software code. So the TTS-1 license would have been a grey area as it is really an additional feature. Anyway I respect Roland as always being a solid company that we can thank for many things that have shaped the music community. And everything I ever bought from them still works. My 505 and the SC 55 still work like brand new. So everyone needs to move on and start weening yourself of the TTS-1.

As a follow up. I tried the SFKR sound fonts and I don’t like them at all. They seem to have that under water sound like you get with stem separation. So forget about them . I’ve set up a test project with a track for each player. I insert the synth and Export it. I carefully adjust levels so all tracks are around 17 LUFS . This is important! Most of the players are outside of Sonar so I record them using Loopback. TTS-1 Coyote VST SynthFont MSWavetable Virtual Midi Synth Acoustia Instruments Mixcraft Presence Studio one Then 3 different Soundfont collection from the Midi Sound Synth Next on the list is Hardware, Korg 05R/W Original Roland SC 55 Sound Canvas Yamaha Piano I can’t find my MT 32? I might have thrown it out. It would rate below the MS Wavetable anyway. I will make a video next week. I use Solo Exclusive to jump through the tracks. It’s a simple song with Bass, Drums E piano and a Banjo. But I’m thinking of making it so it’s a special project that solos a bunch of different instruments instead because it’s hard to judge by a whole song as every player produces different mixes of the tracks. You can tell winter is here and Im bored!! But it’s actually part of a different story.

For me the issue seemed to have started few years ago. I’ve got a thread somewhere about this. It was only if I had a complete project with a few midi and Audio tracks. Anytime I tried to add the TTS-1 to that situation it would crash Cakewalk It was definitely the TTS-1 by looking at the crash dumps. I don’t think it ever has crashed if it was first instrument added to a project. As a result of the pending end of life which actually has happened I switched to using VST SynthFont which to me sounds better anyway. One benefit is that it supports all 16 channel outputs. I like that because I can use better effects on each instrument. And it’s VST 2 and VST3. Not Dx which I have a feeling Sonar will discontinue supporting someday. The developer Kenneth is very responsive to emails. I found a bug in the VST3 version and he sent me an update in 2 days! Try contacting Roland about bugs!