Bass Guitar

I’ll have to try this tomorrow morning but I always thought that you could only choose multiple outputs when you first inserted the synth. But then I have never tried inserting a few audio tracks and seeing if you could set them up as the optional outputs from a synth. Im thinking you’d have to first assign them in the synth mixer first before Sonar would see them.

This is exactly what happens to me.

@jan.ynske You should really start a new topic for new questions.

What I remember from back in the days when we were using floppy disks is any continuous controller data would quickly run out of room on the disks.. You had to thin out the data manually. I was very disappointed when I bought my GR50 midi guitar that it was next to impossible to record the midi due to the constant pitch bending that was recorded. But 100MB sounds like a small project to me? That shouldn’t take more than a few seconds to open?

This is easier to do using the Console view Create 2 new stereo buses. Set their output to the master. Name one VOCALS. and thee other INSTUMENTS At the bottom of each of the track channel strips is the dialogue for the output of each track. It will have defaulted to master Change each track to the bus you want the track to go to. If there are a lot then you can select all the tracks that belong to a group and use the dialogue shown in the post above by @Chaps This sends the entire track to the bus. As pointed out by @reginaldStjohn you don’t use the send. The send is used when you want to split the signal and send it more than one place. Usually this is a reverb bus.

I find that Sonar and Cubase in the design never show you every event in one place. Example the tempo and program changes are not on the event list. So the midi data is scattered across 4 places. The event list, the transport. System Exclusive list and the track header. I have often had to open the midi file in a very basic Midi sequencer to view all the information in one place. Im away from home so can’t recommend one but they are all pretty easy to find by search for “Free Midi Sequencer “. The one I have allows me to edit the start and add events in a list that has a lot more information than any Daw gives me. Sorry I can’t remember what it is called. The GUI looks like it is DOS based.

Just read the post above. It a new system that will help you compose with better customer service using a certain professional approach. Welcome to the new improved spell and grammar checker.

Thanks I am aware of this. That is a good feature for working with midi clips. But rules out saving a full songs. It was a bit of a surprise because I dragged a midi copy of one of my songs made in Cakewalk and that all works perfectly fine and no problems there. I had made a few edits and as I went to save it was when I discovered it was only as a project file. Not as a midi file as I was expecting. Now I know I just won’t use Next for midi files.

My comment was about General Midi. Not Midi in general. Midi is most definitely a strong contender in the music recording and live music scene. Yes and we are finally getting an upgrade as well. But judging by comments on this forum and others I belong to GM midi is not a very common part of most people’s workflows. It’s an old guy thing from the 90’s. Im well covered and not too concerned about it fading away. I have a lot of options.

I’ve heard that you need to have the correct font installed on your computer. There was a post about this just recently you might want to look for it.

Yes for sure. I still have my hardware collection. Including the original Roland SC 55.

What Ive come to realize is that people who use GM midi are quickly becoming dinosaurs. You just won’t see anything much developed and then Software that used to is slowly fazing it out. Daws are now focusing on the future and that definitely isn’t going to be GM midi.

We are off on a road trip to Veracruz for a few days and I didn’t bring the Laptop but you can trust that the specs are on the edge of qualification. I think Lenovo T450. i5 2 core. I added 12 GB RAM and a 500 SSD a while ago. W10 home. It only has music apps for live gigs and editing stuff when I’m away. I just installed the Command Centre and Platinum on it last Summer. It was probably a stretch to install Sonar. And it is definitely not happy about its new home. I installed Next and that is running smoothly with the exception of the Start screen has same glitch that Sonar has. But Next doesn’t save as midi files which is what I am trying to work on. For now I’m just using Platinum again with no issues at all. But you miss those little things that we soon realize are now part of Sonar. The list is long.

I was surprised to find that Next doesn’t include any option to “save as “or “export “ a project as a Midi file. This is a very standard feature of all Daw’s. Please consider this as a possibility for future updates.

You are probably correct because I keep forgetting that I’m using my laptop which has 2013 specs. But truthfully other software is running fine and it’s just the graphics of Sonar are constantly glitching out as I work. Im staying with family in Puebla Mexico so I bought my old laptop. I saw the Black Friday deal so grabbed a new membership. The other thing going wrong is my typical crashes on loading simple projects is back. These don’t crash in Platinum. But I think Ive narrowed it down to the new Sonar doesn’t like it when plug ins are not found. It will load as far as showing me the list of missing plugins and freeze up and go opaque for a few seconds before closing. I will wait until I am home to test properly on my studio computer.

I didn't make it since my last post to here. I was trying to draw a CC-1 expression envelope and when I started playback I lost my mouse cursor. I stopped playback with space bar and my mouse would show where is was by opening dialogue boxes. I managed to close and save the project which is just a midi file. My cursor came back.

I just had same issue. From the start screen use browse, open project and start screen opens and prevents project from loading. Close start screen and project loads.

If you do that what does a project look like. That screenshot is only showing a menu dialogue

It’s glitches. I just got the same thing. It said I wasn’t activated. Click the toaster and it went away. The whole website experience of obtaining Sonar is really badly organized. And then there’s still the confusion with the legacy site is top of any search for “Purchase Sonar”. You need to understand that you need to first search for Bandlab and even then you end up with everything but any anything about Sonar. You need to know to search for Bandlab Membership first. But you need to log in and it never works with out trying 4 times! Then you’ll need to know you need to search for the Cakewalk Product Centre. And you need to log in again and it doesn’t work the first time. Then you install Sonar and you log in again and it says you are not a member. Nice welcome.

I found the most useful thing that they kept is the saturation slider. Play with that and it helps a lot.

I use Nero and I feed it 48/. 24 wave files no problem. It has a good Dithering system built in. There’s a lot of information about dithering and after reading a lot of it I decided that it is not very important to my type of music production. People obsess about this stuff when in the end there’s more important stuff to worry about like the music itself. Who cares if you recorded at 192/ 32 if it’s not a good song.

Me too. I have not totally abandoned it yet because I will be back in a shot the minute they somehow rectify the shortcomings of this new graphics system. No complaints about anything else other than the topic that is censored. I just can’t see some icons very clearly but that said, this is now common in a lot of software. My latest one is some projects would open and the Browser shows the instrument tab highlighted but the list was the effects.

Exactly. So I have a wave file that is 48/ 16 and import it it will still be 16 bit even if the project is 44.1 or 48. Sonar doesn’t change the bit depth. So why the need for dithering. I really can’t think of what that setting applies to?

Yes but Sonar in my case is using 32 floating point so I can’t see a case where dithering would apply. Most cases where I would be importing audio files they are always lower bit rates.

The message you will get is you are already signed in and the price is not the discount. The discount is only for new accounts. As I said we complained about this in July 2024 and were told they would "look into it" guess not. So I had my 3rd email which is what I'm using for this user name. That worked to get the discount. What was interesting is on checkout it showed your fee $70 and then next year renewal as $99. So that seems a bit different than before. Because when I went to renew this last July it was $189 and the sale price was I think $59 that was showing in a pop up when you opened Cakewalk or Sonar that month. It only lasted a few days and then they announced the end of Cakewalk, I feel sorry for anyone who was foolish enough to pay the$189