Starise

Blown away by what you did here. Great work!

The video really add a lot to this. Nice playing!

Excellent retro tune Freddy! I enjoyed this!

Great listen here!

Ugh. Not sure abut that link @Harry C.. I'll check it out and thanks for the comments. @SteveCThank you!

Sorry for your loss. We both know it isn't the end, but that doesn't help the fact that we can't call em' up and chat anymore.

I keep forgetting the Chinese new year is later. Happy new year! Can we celebrate again?

Uh.....I think I need to get my headphones checked out.

Great job on this man. Thanks for sharing!

I guess it all depends on your main objectives Andy. I know you are very much an ITB kind of guy. I would do as you propose and look at hardware control of more parameters if I were working ITB. There is some very cool gear out there older and used with amazing midi control built in. More recent developments are some of the Softube stuff. I'll never forget my old CME 88 key controller. What was unique about it was it had a midi tempo dial. I could speed up/slow down midi mixes at will. CME went through some driver compatibility issues and fell out of favor with lots of musicians for that reason. Are you using hardware synths as well?

I agree John. Just now reading this. I only wish I could have been there.

@yapweiliang I like what you did with it and thanks! It hasn't been difficult for me to move the parts around. I simply drag them to the right place. Having the other track was helpful because I could line up the visual wave forms. I added my real violin to this alongside the flute. I'm not sure if I would keep it like that. The idea was to pan the flute slight left and the violin slight right. I like the treatment to the flute since it opens it up and lets that track breathe more. The only issue with the flute is I am hearing clicks in that part even after mix down. Not sure why. The file doesn't seem to be a low res file and I don't think the clicks were added during processing. Somehow that part seems to have picked up clicks that I can't explain. Initially I thought it was latency. I understand your intent is to use BL for those who have cell phones and I think it's good for that. I downloaded the app for my android yesterday. I was impressed that I could pull up our mix while sitting in my car and even edit tracks. Pretty cool stuff! The BL UI is well thought out for what it is and looks easy to use. I would never in a million years have thought to use my smart phone to mix, but now I can see a use there even if only basic. Not so sure about the recording end of it right now. Makes a great ideas thing. I could see myself putting in basic audio for ideas purposes on the smart phone. You may have noticed the last Cakewalk update includes the ability to both import and export tracks to and from Cakewalk. This should make things a lot easier when using both programs. One main advantage to this is the band can hear everything almost in real time. No need to wait for a track in dropbox. One member can have the same mix in Cakewalk or all can. Depending on the band environment this could be a huge advantage. I mean, it's a group of people who got together to make music and exchange ideas about that music. I think this is a great way to do that. I liked the piano track you sent. Well done. Pleasure working with you too.I'll leave it up to you what you want to do in the future. I might send a track out to the "band" in the near future. If you like what it is and want to add parts feel free. If someone else wants to add a part feel free on this. If you have an idea send it over. Tim,

@yapweiliang , I added a sax part and an acoustic guitar. I did a little work on the existing flute and uploaded that track. The pne thing we haven't yet tried is midi . Probably isn't a bad idea to have those uploaded on non audio tracks. If I were making a serious mix I might go back and line things up a little better. Not bad though IMO so far. As you have suggested I'll open this up to everyone else and see what comes of it. Exactly. All of the noise seems to go away after the mix is saved.I haven't tried the stems download yet since I only needed one track I simply copy/pasted and then dragged the track back from Cakewalk to BL. Here is the link which is now public- https://www.bandlab.com/band/band6822440552126412/scarborough-fair-starise-2da66-2740a?revId=2eb7ee74-a722-e911-9f2a-00155d7803f0

@Jesse Jost Thank you for this! @yapweiliang No worries, this is supposed to be fun. After the second listen I hear the cello which is pretty good for a phone recording. May I play with the flute part some? The first thing that comes to mind is that a mic or interface for the phone would be monumental for a portable situation. IK makes a lot of that kind of thing. The latency is a concern and it seems tracks will need to be moved to line up unless the phone has a faster interface, like maybe iPhone using core audio/midi drivers. I use an android phone. Not sure what's out there that could reduce latency. I think we should try something with just the cello and violin sometime since I play violin probably good enough for a decent try at it. In this track the cello is fighting the other tracks and should be brought up. Thank you for giving that a go. Difficult for a cello to do in this context. Since I don't rely on a smart phone entirely I haven't had the need to investigate this.

Thanks for the info.

I'm glad you found something that is working well for you.You have given me a bunch I ideas I can use. Thanks!

I think I feel a cough coming on too....? Seriously I can't do that.

I also love that instrument. Interesting how it might have come about, " let's take a harp of two and lay them sideways. We could add keys to it with hammers that hit the strings." I like classical music, but I think it needs to be brought more into the 20th century. Lots of musicians are only taught the music of the "masters". I think there has been and continues to be great compositions that are only heard in small circles.

I will check this tonight. I seen new tracks in the band. Had a brief listen. Will listen again. One thing that amazes me is how are you doing this using a smartphone? Are you hooking a midi keyboard to the phone or using bluetooth? Maybe I missed the obvious, you played it into the phone mic. The quality didn't quite seem to be there compared to a better sample library on the initial listen.

Thank Notes. Well, I'm going to be honest here, it isn't always as easy as it seems, at least for me. Probably because when I look at doing it I'm not usually copying a cover, so my thinking is something like, I want to make a nice backing track>now what? I made a few things but couldn't get words for them. They sounded ok but I didn't know what to do with them. Maybe some of this is not wanting to commit to something I wasn't sure about. It's like songwriting and having a mental block. Anyone else have this issue? Not that copying a cover can't be difficult too, especially if it has a bunch of odd stuff in it.

I have never been in Kansas........................although it would probably be a nice time. ? *runs* then thinks, hey why am I running, oh that's why.

Mesh only the mods are in charge and post count no longer matters here. Well, I mean , it never mattered before either did it?

Blades is looking into this now. Sounds like a plan! I told Blades he could delete anything of mine that might be throwing him off. I haven't had time to get back to it yet. FYI, you guys can comment on BL messages too.

@David Baay I like this idea David. Due to the nature of BL it seems unlikely that they could keep all of it out, maybe I'm wrong here. I think I seen a place to add explanations to tracks. I'm thinking we could add what we prefer and what we don't prefer there? Not sure how helpful it would be. If BL is both a closed tracks area and/or bands private area, I'm ok with that. Like you, I wouldn't put anything put onto the other areas that I cared much about. It might be a good way to pick up band members who might compliment what you do though. It looks like we are similar or I would invite. We probably make each other redundant ? @yapweiliang I didn't notice the latency when playing from the main BL stream. On my end it wasn't really like latency, more like a slight distortion in sound quality. I have a fairly fast connection and still experienced some slight issues when playing back the Mix Editor. My guess is that this is likely a price we pay to mix from the BL server. It wasn't bad enough to keep me from hearing it or making basic mix decisions. That might not be true for everyone. We might have a new member!! A drummer. Not sure if he is interested yet. Here is another thought for those who are accustomed to composing multiple parts. Most composers are always thinking of new parts to add. I am finding when using BL that I need to back off some. I think I over did the bass part. It can be difficult to think like this, but we need to leave holes. It's actually less work because it isn't up to you to do it all. If I get a fairly busy part adding counter point might not really be beneficial. I think you kind of need to feel it out to see where things can fit and be thinking minimalist in most cases.

Nice work on this!