Tim Smith

Duplicate. Might as well post the latest news.

And I did all of the above multiple times. I had an older syncrosoft dongle. I also had a VSL license on the same dongle among others. Not sure if it was due to it being older hardware, but the server doesn't see my dongle basically saying "no license found". This only happened because I initiated the maintenance routine on it. Before that I had everything and was using pro 11. Steinberg lets me register the dongle but then doesn't see it when it comes time to look at it to load my licenses. If it can't see the dongle then it can't located licenses. My computer sees the dongle. It's just empty. I sent screen captures to Steinberg of my empty dongle hoping they would get the point. I received a cookie cutter answer from one of their reps through email. Yada yada yada. I hope I can break through. At this point I'm ready to throw in 99.00 to get it working. Believe it or not I looked to see if there was an upgrade path I could buy on the Steinberg site. There isn't. Apparently they have all of their marketing through the download manager sheesh.

Craig goes whole hog on everything. Or is that two pigs in there?

I care but I only care about what I care about. I just got a message from a younger friend and he had some beats for me to listen to. I encouraged him in it even though it isn't my thing. I might even help him to pump those beats up some. One of the things I really do care about is his generation. I care that there are still pioneers out there experimenting with a set of musical tools. The younger generation needs something productive to do and making beats is productive and can be rewarding. I just played with a group of 20 somethings and you know what ? It jelled. If my ears go maybe I can at least pass a baton. It isn't them and us. I see it more as me looking at me then or something similar and them looking at future possibilities. Them and us discussions probably aren't very productive. There is no age where a musician ceases to be one. They have more tools than I had which I think puts the cart ahead of the horse many times ( yeah that's an old man thing to say). The music is always old for me. Putting the tech ahead of creativity is probably the biggest hurdle for this generation IMO. Probably a bigger question I constantly ask myself after hearing some of the stuff I hear is, when does music cease to be music? There seems to be a very WIDE swing there.

Nice choir. Are you singing in there?

I'm deleting my response to the deleted post. ............and it's probably for the best.

One of my biggest concerns would be accidentally sitting on it.

Looks interesting. I have his other panner but haven't used it much.

Yes this all seems very unfair to the Russian population. People pay for ilok and I believe should be politically neutral.

My little Yorkies were like buzz saws when they were pups. I have since fixed all the furniture. Fender could have hired them in the distressing department.

Is this Straummy?

I agree. I still have the occasional slice of apple pie though.

They want you to go with the neural design which will be an implant in future generations. That way you can order from Apple by just thinking about it.

Yep this ^^^^ Something tells me that if I coughed up 99.00 for the update all would go well. A promise for a grace period license is a promise though and I can afford to wait a bit yet. A good deal with a short window and large download files will usually cause these problems or a new version release from a well known DAW maker. I fully expected this to happen. I just didn't expect it to last this long or the major snafu with the elicensers. There are two sides to every story. I remember Steinberg cracks on old copies of Cubase once abounded. So they went completely lockdown with the dongle which they charged something like 30.00 for in addition to their software. I can't say as I blame them for going to increased security measures, but they took it a bit too far as Germans are prone to do sometimes. I'm sorry, I know that's a stereotype. The good news was they started to go more mainstream with their security and tried to make it easier for the user base while still maintaining security over pirate cracks. Their idea was an excellent one and I would be onboard with it 100% if it actually worked for me lol. They got too carried away with the dongle again. Like cclarry says, they should not have attached everything to the dongle. Just issue all of us a one time pass code that is tied only to our computers..........but noooooo.

Well @locrian I'm glad you and others managed to get it working. I received an email from Steinberg stating I would be served in order of requests. Since I waited quite awhile thinking I could figure it out myself and save them the trouble I am likely far down the waiting list. I really thought I was overlooking something until it finally clicked the elicenser server was down. What appears to me to have happened is Steinberg delayed release of version 12 to attempt to get the bugs worked out of the new licensing process. Knowing them I believe they put a pretty noble effort into it. This whole thing probably wasn't their main forte and some of that old fear of loosing control crept back in. The same fear that kept them from moving to this 5 years ago. Finally, after loosing revenue over it to other DAWs they decided they had to make a move. What we are left with now is going to be a painful trial and error process. I believe they probably knew there would be certain issues. Elimination of the hardware dongle means they had to find a way to discard the licenses on it and transfer them to the computer instead. The license elimination part of that worked great for me ? Just one teeny tiny little oversight that didn't relocate the licenses onto my computer. That's all. No biggie. Now you see it, now you don't. Cubase magic! The disappearing licenses.

Well yes I would agree with that. I knew my comments going into this would probably provoke comments like this. I think I mainly did it to show that we can still hold our own absolutes. What we feel personally to be absolutes in a world that is constantly trying to shape everything into something relative. There are absolutes and then there are things which are only absolutes to us. I think art has always been predominantly about opinion or solitary experience, so when someone comes along with such a firm statement as this it will surely be challenged. To say something is or isn't requires proof. Not just proof but the kind of proof a biased person can live with. If we go WAY back to before recording, we had some amazing musicians like Bach and Mozart. Now we have rock guitarists play some of that old music. This is a testament to the staying power of the music itself. Copying is the greatest form of flattery. I have listened to compositions that the composers intentionally patterned after a particular composer in an open admission of respect for their work. Most of us tend to look back on only maybe the last 50 years or so when we have a much richer history. Bad motives promoted good music on many occasions. Ecclesiastes says there is really nothing new under the sun. We tend to think something better is always up and coming, but we go back to primal beats for our compositions. Music has always been built on foundations. Those foundations have essentially remained unchanged and are expressed as different systems in an attempt to give order to them all. This is why we have so many types and kinds of scales and modes in an attempt to classify all of it. This is why I will always say the older music was better, because without it there would be no foundation for anything. What has come from the older music has been simplified for the most part recently. Songs that once had in depth lyrics that were most like poetry are being replaced with simple little repetitive phrases. Something that might have taken a hard working musician a lot of time to make is now replaced with some dude who was making beats and came up with something in 5 minutes that became a hit. If music is writing then these last several decades have been shorthand. It's as if we have stripped away the detail and traded it for simplicity. Where music was once a diamond ring in a jewelry store, now it's plastic ring in a 5 cent dispenser. Driven by the next big thing or the thing those who pull those strings are after. It can painful to look in the mirror sometimes and to take a reasonable inventory of where we have been, where we are, and where we are going.

I have mine pretty well trained. If they slip up I give them the frustrated voice and scolding and I make hand gestures.. They know what happened and they don't do it again..........until the next time one slips up. Doesn't happen often.

I hate to admit this has happened to me once or twice. It isn't a good feeling. Kinda squashy. And if you're wearing socks ugh. Water and a long handled brush works best.

Well, I suppose that's your choice. Do you have your will made out?

@Kal S The only thing I see that resembles what you are calling an "activation manager" is when my version 12 tries to load and I dismiss it. Then I get an option under my ID to run a grace period check. Grace period check fails every time for me even though I have a grace period license on the Steinberg site. It looks to me like the maint. Steinberg required me to run in my elicenser ERASED my licenses. When I try to put in the activation code again it tells me it doesn't see an elicenser. I guess I'll submit a support ticket. Yay. Many times these things can either fail or succeed based on the sequence of the steps you take. I suspect if I had tried the grace period check through 12 before I ran maintenance on my dongle all would have probably been ok. That maintenance step caused a real problem. I can confirm that version 11 is also missing from my licenses.

Did you actually put that stuff in your mouth?

If I catch what you are referring to here, I would check the chip before attempting to OC. If it's already pushing the top of it's range I wouldn't bother. In the case of the 5820K, there was still a lot of breathing room. Temps on that chip never get anywhere close to overheating with a good fan and case air. I was surprised Intel still sells the chip since it's been out awhile. I've been running it overclocked for a long time with zero issues.

Thanks for the clarification. I had forgotten what the designation was. The 5820K did have reduced lanes and I guess I tied that into the nomenclature inaccurately. So the i9 I looked at was the 1100K. That's even better. Yeah, I guess it's been while since I looked at cpus. Thanks. Have you checked out using a different skin, a different template or both? Those two things can change the entire experience. You can make your own smart keys setup as well. I never got into Reaper. Studio One seems like a light weight Cubase to me. For sure I like it, but I like the piano roll in Cubase better. I

I'm afraid to put anything up because my last funny pics thread was yanked.

I need to focus some attention to a new build as well. I seen i9 1100K on sale at new egg, just the processor for sale. The "K" designation might mean the chip is throttled in some way. I want something I can O.C. with plenty of lanes. With the future uncertainty of some components possibly becoming unavailable or more difficult to obtain, I am looking at maybe buying at least a processor and shopping for a motherboard that would fit well with the I/O I want. The capability to safely O.C. can help boost an older chip, like my 5820K 6 core. I O.C.d it to 5ghz. That chip has limited lane capability compared to others and is getting long in the tooth. Many of the more recent Intel chips max in the 3-4 ghz range. Sound libraries like lots of RAM. Audio only, not so much. I have always been under a favorable impression that Cakewalk plays better than many other DAWs when it comes to efficiency using a later windows OS.