John Vere

Bottom line is if you work with large projects with a lot of effects you have 2 choices. Freeze or purchase a computer that is capable. Freezing takes only a few seconds of your time, if that time is valuable to you then upgrade the computer.

Yep all basic settings that are well worth understanding clearly from day one. Otherwise you chase your tail. That’s why I recommend you visit the tutorial sub forum here and watch a few of the beginners videos. Or you can read the relevant pages of the user guide. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7YqVth30eGsURWrKGeu-fFyg3ETjF-Ox&si=1JkjEPUORv9GeOm1

I just released a video about how to. But it’s in the help menu. Or at the very top of the forum here.

@Max Arwood I demo how to read the files in the video. I’m a totally newbie at using it but all I need from it is what actually generated the crash. And because I never heard back from them this is what I do. I even have been using it with other DAWs I was testing as well as Vegas pro. Your right about the auto generated answers. And then sometimes a real person will ask for a screen capture or something else. I actually had OBS open on my second monitor when all of sudden got the blue circle of death and I managed to capture the crash. That was a fluke.

Once I finally can purchase Sonar my plan is to purchase a new drive and only install Sonar . But unless I get my request that they include all our legacy products as part of the Cakewalk Product Center I’m going to have to start out with the old routine of installing from 8.5 and the Command Center and Splat first. That usually gives me my “paid for” goodies. No point installing CbB because it doesn’t have any goodies.

Ha! I spoke too soon. After I posted above, I tried to open Cakewalk Sonar. It now opens Home Studio. It even changed the orange Icon in the Program FIles folder. So now I will have to re install Sonar again! In all my years of installing different versions I've never seen that happen. Basically Home Studio totally overwrote Sonar. Update: I re installed Cakewalk Sonar and it once again created a Black Square icon. The Black Square Icon that says Home Studio opens Cakewalk Sonar. So that sort of explains that. I had installed Home Studio back in January to compare it to Cakewalk Next. I un installed it after I installed Cakewalk Sonar in February. But the good news is, Home studio is now unavailable (no big deal) but the TTS-1 still opens in Cakewalk Sonar. So it is possible to outsmart them and keep the TTS-1 going, just don't use Home Studio, use an older CbB installer, probably best to avoid anything that is called Sonar.

Update: ( even though it's seems to be not a hot topic like activation and subscriptions) So I don't often resort to this but to try and fix the stupid icon as well as other issues, First another unsolved mystery, There were 2 versions on Snar on the apps list, one called SOnar, one called Cakewalk Sonar. So I uninstalled both the versions of Sonar from the App's list. It was pretty easy to re install and activate. Didn't fix the icon. Sonar automatically created a new Square Icon during install and plunked it on the desktop. I worked on stuff for a few hours and no crashes or mishaps. But I loaded a project I had just been working on the day before, and got a warning about missing instrument TTS-1? I t shows on Plug in list and in Manager, but you get a warning message that it is not installed properly. ( screenshot taken later in Cakewalk) Hmm, so I opened Cakewalk and I got the infamous Red Warning which so far I have avoided seeing. And I tried the same project and got the same warning about the TTS-1. This is pretty scary stuff for a guy who actually likes to use TTS-1 for midi files and even made a video about how to save it from doom! So basically installing Sonar this second time contaminated the TTS-1? That's very strange? Is this on purpose to please Roland's request to remove it??. If so fine. But still a PITA for a thousands of long time users who's projects depend on it. For cripes sakes Roland, you actually sold it to me! Anyways I followed my own advice in the video and I installed Sonar Home Studio and that brought back the TTS-1. I'm scared to touch anything now.

Ya this will become exclusively the Sonar forum eventually. The old forum had to be abandoned because it belongs to Gibson. This forum belongs to Bandlab. Someone will have to eventually redo some of the categories and descriptions to update to it all saying Sonar. Hopefully they get rid of the questions and answers sub forum which is only a duplicate of this one with an annoying lack of seeing who and when it was last posted to.

I've sent in a bunch since Sonar came out. I also had sent in a bunch for CbB back in November that were TTS-1 related. I just recently learned how to open and read the dump files using WinDmp. So far all the Sonar crashes just say "Sonar exe" even though each one happened differently. Interestingly I complained that you couldn't attach the files at first in the new reporting via the help menu. They seemed to have fixed that now and you so you can. it's a lot easier to submit a crash report now. But you never really find out what happened because they don't get back to you later. They do get back to you right away with more questions.. I made a video on how to look at the crash dump files for others reading this who might not have discovered this valuable tool.

Oh sorry I thought you wanted to control it as you played live. Ya, lot's of options for after it's recorded.

Ya I just tried it and all the on /off and controls have Midi learn in TH3 . Just right click the knob/ button and choose midi learn and then step on the footswitch or midi controller.

If you use a midi foot pedal like those made by Behringer you can use midi learn from within TH3 each parameter should have midi learn but I can’t totally confirm that as I’m not at home. Most VST effects have midi learn

Midi is not audio it is data that is sent to either a VST instrument or to a hardware midi sound module. There’s a thousand tutorials on the topic of using DAWs Google your question and add Sonar to the title.

I think what can happen is the OP has not download and installed the ASIO driver then Cakewalk would have to use a Windows drivers. ASIO is an option for some Realtek systems and Cake has a built in warning to tell you not to use it. I was thinking about purchasing an SSL2 due to the reviews and the pre amps. But of course all the reviews use Macs and drivers are never even mentioned.

I happened to see this icon labeled Sonar Home Studio. See screen shot. I don’t have that installed and if I did the icon would be square. This Icon opens the new Sonar. Not Home Studio. Cakewalk Sonar has a round orange icon. Mine looked like that for a while then at some point turned into the Black Square that looks like the Sonar Platinum icon? I opened the Sonar program folder location where you see the round Orange icon and told it too created a desktop shortcut. It created a second Black square? Then next I opened the Windows Start screen and there I find there's only Cakewalk Sonar with a nice round orange Icon. I told that to create a shortcut and it was once again a Black square. But when I sent it to the task bar it is an Orange circle? One more stop, the seemingly useless Cakewalk Product center. Well this only has Next and CbB. No Sonar. Somehow this whole Cakewalk system is becoming a bit of a mess on my Computer. I don't like that. Please hurry up and release Sonar so I can wipe all this garbage out of my system and start nice and clean. And while your at it make the Cakewalk Product center useful and put my Legacy plug ins in there so I don't have to install all those antique versions anymore. Thank You

You can submit a report but my understanding is you never run processed material into Melodyne. It ignores everything and only uses the raw audio file.It would struggle with heavy processing anyway. It likes clean, loud and clear. Like you would not print a lot of reverb to a vocal track and expect Melodyne to create the blobs correctly. So it’s not clear to me how you were set up. Normally Guitar rig goes in the FX bin. To use Melodyne you highlight just the part that needs editing and apply as a Regional Effect. Guitar rig is out of the equation. Then once you have edited the audio you render the clip back to normal.

Byron’s answer is possible the closest to the truth. Distorted guitar is normally a huge sustained wave form and more or less the worst possible audio you could use with audio snap. There’s no Auto Fix for timing issues with that type of material. As said, if I hear an out of time part I highlight and drag. Once done I bounce to clip.

Please read the other 10 threads on with same question. Just look for Activation in title.

That means you are already signed in and activated. It’s a little weird but it’s just a temporary system to manage CbB for a little longer until it is finally gone. It’s sort of different in Sonar and Next which very so often reminds me I’ve only so many days left before I need to pay my rent. This CbB thing is why they obliterated all other versions so they could change the code to include the activation timer. I remember back in the day being off line and just setting my computers clock back a year to solve that issue with something I was trying to cheat about.

Re reading what I said I would say I actually said exactly how I feel right now. And it’s based on a lot of background info I’ve been working on for 2 months or more. I have downloaded and installed most of the major competitors DAWS. My conclusion was Sonar has too many features I use daily that none of those DAWS seem to have. In other words Sonar has my personal workflow nailed down. I think this is the perfect time for anyone who is having issues with paying for Sonar to move on from the soon to be useless CbB and start trying these other DAWS for them selves. Everybody has a different workflow and you might find a DAW you should have been using all along. Cakewalk for sure has lost a lot of customers with the crazy way they transitioned but honestly they have achieved the mission that took 5 or more years to produce a solid DAW that in my opinion is one of the best DAWS for PC users now. Some of the people that have left will be back once things settle down and then I think they will also slowly gain lots of new users over time as word gets out there. Remember this slow process is not the developers fault it’s the company that’s not moving very fast. Next is still in Beta and it’s almost like only one person is working on the bugs of which there are many.

As I said I had used Discord a few times to report bugs. The first few back in November a staff member replied thanked me and said they would hand it over to the developers. Then I found a major bug in punching in which David Bay also verified and this was never resolved or got any response. I just tried again this weekend and the bug was still there so I screen captured and used the reporting found on the web pages which you can access from the top of this forum. I got an email back responding so that is a better way to report. I uninstalled Discord I can’t really see the point of it. It must be a very small team working on Next. And it’s a very likeable DAW. I’m still optimistic it will be a keeper.

This is what I was thinking too. Reverb can only be created by a specific effect and if it is not in the signal path of this problem child clip then it is not possible to have reverb. But delay is possible with out an effect in the signal path. So we can’t be sure if the OP knows the difference between reverb and delay. Also we do need to know if this is only a midi track feeding the same Instrument or if it’s a second instance of the same instrument. And if it it is, does it have its own reverb built in. There’s sort of infinite possibilities.

No. this was made pretty clear that this is the last version and it is what it is. I actually doubt that you issue would be related to the latest release. It must be something else. Any bugs are now only fixed in Sonar. CbB is no longer supported.

Sonar is the next update from CbB but with a graphic overhaul and long list of bug fixes and a few things added at this point. There will be more forthcoming in the future. We are sort of just picking up from where we left off in 2017. CbB was free while they sorted out all the bugs and figured out what they could do to create a DAW that would appeal to the masses. This is still yet to be seen. Personally after trying almost every other DAW I still need to use Sonar because of a few features none of the others have. Tempo extract and a smart tool are just 2 out of many others.

Sorry Mark comments were not pointed at you. It is all the noise that is still going on and on and all we need to do is "Wait and see!" This is a painfully slow transition to a new situation for the DAW we've become overly attached to. I'm optimistic everyone will end up getting what they want unless what people want is to keep using CbB.