MusicMan

They're not particularly bad prices, but given all the great deals I've previously seen from PA, I'm really feeling no urge to pull the trigger on any of these.. I get for some people that might want all 3, with the loyalty voucher they're ok deals.. But PA has turned into a bit of a yawn fest for me lately.. They're more an IgnoreWare developer than anything else for right now, mainly interested in structuring sales only aimed and useful to newbies.. Fingers crossed for a mega sale that actually has deals again.. I miss the old days where PA deals were epic and didn't suck!

I totally get the disk space concern as well, but the way I look at it, is even if I just installed the new Syn2 synths now, or even just the best of them, I will still own all the others anyway from the group buy and can install them later, whenever suits. Hard drive capacities always increase, so in a few years or so, that extra space probably doesn't matter as much.

Yeah I'm intrigued by this one as well and will definitely give it a demo. There's also Acustica Audio Magenta as well which is based in the Manley Massive Passive EQs I believe. I do find some of the Pulsar plugs heavy on CPU, but if it's lighter than Magenta then it still could be a good option too.

IK has been pretty good with extensions before AND... It's much better publicity for them if it goes all the way, so there may still be hope. People talk about those sales for many months, or even years after the event for really great group buys, which generates more sales, but customers are not going to rave about it to the same extent unless they get all of them! ??

I already bought Syntronik Deluxe previously, but decided to jump in on the group buy to pick up the 11 new instruments and add some support ? For approximately $34 with jampoints, that's a pretty crazy price to get a whole heap, or maybe all of the Syntronik 2 synths!

it's generally a fairly safe assumption ?

I'm optimistic.. I like to think that he's made me spend more money on deals I didn't know about, but saved me money on the things I was going to buy anyway, so the poverty ratio is about the same, but I have more plugins and instruments ? With the time saving of not having to read my emails I'm hoping puts me just in front! I fear the figures may not reflect that.. but I'm going with it anyway ?

I always assumed you must have been fed through an intravenous drip so you didn't have to stop posting deals ?

Some great free plugins there. I love everything Valhalla pretty much and hadn't realised that NastyDLA Mk II was now 64 bit. Have just been testing that one now. Starting with the 201 tapes preset I've tweaked that to get a sound I quite like. Thanks for sharing ?

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Sounds a lot like WUP ?? I do get the peace of mind, but I can't help but think it's a case of legitimate paying customer's of software being penalized and charged further for software they already paid for which I don't like. I Googled to see what they annual charge was currently and stumbled across this old, but likely still current and somewhat humorous take explaining the costs and process even with Zero Downtime ? https://www.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/tw594/your_ilok_zero_downtime_and_you_a_primer

That requires an annual cost for the cover though doesn't it?

I figured you likely would've, but doesn't hurt to check. Interestingly, I just signed up as well and mine ended up in spam!

You've probably covered it, but have you checked your spam folder?

Maybe they're adding TMT to the meters so there will be some variation between them too ?

I like it ? I picked it up the other day with that same voucher and it's not needed, but there's some things I really like. It's got very fine grained controls, so you can adjust the gain in very small increments which is great for mastering. The high shelf sounds really nice. It has a limiter built in, with soft clipping and saturation options including an algo from VintageWarmer and some analogue emulation controls. I'm sure it will be seeing quite a lot of use for me ?

I use a limiter frequently on bass instead of a compressor and some other melodic instruments. Sometimes even on cymbals. Drums I'll actually more often hit with a clipper and/or compressor instead, depending on the source material and sound I'm after. But I also use them at times on some of the busses, so drum buss, guitar buss, etc. I find limiting at that stage can help glue things together at the stereo buss stage a bit more. They can be handy as a quick check in production/early mixing stages on the stereo buss to see how levels might be changed by final limiting. They're really great for sound design too. So to completely smash a single element, or a dedicated FX buss for one instrument.

Very different use cases. This is zero latency for tracking, producing, instruments and busses, whereas I generally wouldn't use Pro-L for that. I normally use that more on the stereo buss. This might be more of an option for creative or vibe style limiting too. It's just another flavour ?

Yeah that's not a bad way to be. I like supporting some of the good devs like that too. What sort of things do you normally use the plugin for?

That's interesting feedback on it. Did they add more features, or is it just the way they rearranged things for the PA release?

It would be rude not to really... ?

This one is actually tempting me.. Although part of me would be then kicking myself for not picking it up for $25 with voucher including Audio Damage EOS 2 Reverb. But that aside, I've given it a quick demo and it does have some differences to some of my other tools and effects in that space.

Agreed on the $25 vouchers not having the same impact. I was more referring to the Mega Sale ones where they give everyone a few rounds of $20 vouchers with no limits. If these continue as they were, then there could be some good deals still. Like you, I waited on a couple of things for Black Friday sales and unfortunately they have increased their regular price! That is pretty uncommon though luckily. It's actually very true about having everything we need stock... but I like the other ones more.. Haha.. That Larry guy does do a pretty damn good job at that! Could almost be his slogan.. "starving families around the world, one audio deal at a time" ? We are grateful of course though!

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I'm going to do absolutely.. nothing.. ? I'd put money on all of those plugins being $25 or less in the not too distant future. Keep in mind they'll still need to do something better for Black Friday, etc too. $20 vouchers could still play a part in sales. They've also set some new all-time low prices on them, which means we're likely to see them again. I'll be happy to wait and not help encourage subscription options. But I also have plenty to use, so there's no real need, or hurry ?