MusicMan

On 9/8/2024 at 2:04 PM, Eusebio Rufian-Zilbermann said:

A question for @Beastsamples - If you'll be "reincarnating" and doing something different in the future, will you consider "freeing" the current sample packs by removing the "major release" clauses in the licensing? Having "encumbrances" in sound libraries is always very annoying.

Thanks for callling that out. I'll steer clear of these ones from now on and might go back and cull them from my drives.

If the free version opened my existing T-Racks plugins, of which I have the vast majority, then I would install 6. Then I might even test some of the new plugins and then who knows, one might inspire me to buy one of the paid bundles.

But seeing how they don't, I'll pass on 6 entirely for now and not bother trying the new ones at all, or cluttering my system with the new suite.

Considering how many T-Racks5 I own, the upgrade isn't really that appealing (for me).

A Group Buy could be around the corner, Black Friday is around the corner, Total Studio 5 could be around the corner.

As Starship mentioned, V5 works fine.

Easy pass for now 🙂

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59 minutes ago, Carl Ewing said:

As someone who is constantly having to open legacy projects for ongoing multi-season / sequel projects, it's infuriating. 

Native Instruments is infamous for it's terrible backend engineering and file management, and nothing epitomizes this than having to have Kontakt 4, 5, 6, 7...and now 8...installed to open projects going back 5+ years. And then having to have multiple versions of some libraries on legacy drives, because all the nonsense they do in between versions (and kontakt file specifications) means developers need to update conform with no backward compatability.

If I start a day knowing I need to open projects from 2018, I know I'll spend an hour or two just dealing with various Kontakt version not knowing where anything is, even though everything is installed AND linked through Native Access. And if any older libraries have been batch saved to ensure smooth operation in the god awful performance of Kontakt 7, those libraries will no longer work in Kontakt 4, 5, 6, and I will need the original files in order to connect and load in legacy projects. Then there's the wonderful "find missing files" dialogue, that even when pointing it to the right files, it often won't actually load anything and Kontakt will load blank. To solve this? I have to have legacy versions of my DAW installed, so I can try and open the project in the same state is was in many years ago - since sometimes that works - hoping that somehow Kontakt will figure it out - then I can copy the properly loaded project settings into the new DAW session. 

NI is the ****ing worst. I love their products from a creative point of view, but they cost me $1000s a year is lost productivity because their software is so god awfully engineered, with not a damn ounce of concern for how major backend decision will affect their customers, and that they're spitting out Kontakt versions simply to milk their customers base not caring how much  of a nightmare this is for professionals. I could throw a chair through a wall some days with how much time I lose dealing with this nonsense. Now that I hear Kontakt 8 is coming out I've decided to start meditating again.

iZotope is terrible for all this as well.. another reason why they're such a great fit with NI and that's not something they should be proud of...

If I could just purchase a new version of Ozone, RX, whatever and have it open old sessions the upgrades might be more appealing. I couldn't be bothered updating to their latest versions for that reason alone. Plus, they often force you to install VST2 and AAX with some of theirs and so then I need multiple major versions of software installed along with corresponding VST2, AAX, etc for each one that I'll never use.. wastes plugin scan times in multiple DAWs and actually some of those formats have caused errors when scanning all plugins. 

Epic fail on both NI and iZotope and a great example of how not to be as a developer.

6 hours ago, MrFigg said:

What do ADSR have for under $1? I don’t want to give them a penny more. 

Are you sure it's not just a phase you're going through? 🤣

I had a look via Music Software Deals site for you and I couldn't see anything crazy cheap when I sorted. But sometimes there might be something pop up during the month.

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On 8/30/2024 at 3:32 AM, GTsongwriter said:

I don't think Melda Production would have done this on purpose.  I just think it's possible that they have acquired a virus or malware in their computer system and when they compiled the software, it snuck itself into the compiler and added itself into the code OR the new installer has be infected with the virus for which they didn't know about.

There's also a possiblity that a lot of malware uses the same installer system that they use, because it's open source and free. That similar code is what is being detected.

I bet if they create thier own installer or change the installer, it would no longer affect Virus Total.

it is always possible that they themselves have been infected by a virus and scanning with Virus Total is really useful and something I often do. Especially as sometimes on here there are new developers I don't know much about, but might want to test their stuff out.

It's not uncommon to see a detection or two on VirusTotal. These will generally be false posititves if it's so limited. What Erik mentioend is spot on. It's always the balance between being too aggresive and keeping you safe, or the scanner being too relaxed and letting something malicious slip through. They almost always err on the overcautious side.

I did scan the installer the other day and noticed that detection too. It appeared to be an AI scanner from memory. That probably adds another layer of potential to get things wrong as well. Just like in the pictures AI creates with hands that have seven fingers on them, AI sometimes gets things a little wrong too!

I installed the update even after seeing what I'm 99.99999% certain is a false positive.

Often if you scan a little while later the companies have realised it's not malicoius and it will pass. Some you can even just upload to them to review.

5 hours ago, Mr No Name said:

out of interest what do you rate as the great compressors?

That sounds like a simple question, but it really depends on what function it's needed for at the time!

Some general ones that come to mind for a few different use cases:

• Deep settings / swiss army knife compressors
  • TDR Kotelnikov GE or Klanghelm DC8C advanced compressor. These cover so much they can replace allmost everything if you add a saturation plugin and EQ.
• SSL style buss compressors
  • Plugin Alliance Townhouse compressor (I always turn the noise way down on this now) as it's got a great vibe
  • SSL Native Bus Compressor 2. Often just works.
• Drums and aggressive
  • UA 1176 Bundle or Overloud Comp76 FET Compressor-Limiter (Basically every compressor from Overloud is pretty much is amazing)
  • PSP Vintage Warmer 2 or Micro Warmer
• Vocals
  • Overloud Comp LA or UA  Teletronix LA-2A Leveler Collection
• Bass
  • Kiive KC1 | Opto Tube Compressor (works great on vocals too)
• Mastering
  • Unisum Mastering Compressor
  • Weiss Compressor / Limiter
  • Pulsar Mu
• Super coloured
  • UA 175B and 176
  • Plugin Alliance SPL Iron

If I was answering tomorrow, there might be some different answers, as there really are so many great compressors. Most of that list can be picked up on sale and for the sale price of the UBK-2 you could be getting up to 4  or 5 different compressors in some case. Some are a bit more expensive than that on sale, but you could still get 2 (or more depending on the combination) great compressors for the same price as the UBK-2 on sale.

Unisum is actually more on sale by about $20, but it is insanely more versatile and comrehensive and there's no comparison.

A bunch of the Plugin Alliance compressors are really good. I love the Neold ones, Elysia (Alpha and mPressor (noise down) and more.

We're really just so spoilt for choice these days. There are so many that came to mind (and those that didn't), that are equally worthy of being ont the list and are almost entirely sub $50 on sale

https://store.harrisonaudio.com/all-products/mixbus-10-pro-labor-day-sale?

For example:

Mixbus 10 : $29.99 (Was $129.99)

Mixbus 10 Pro - Inc. SSL Fusion Stereo Image & X-Delay  $129.99 (Was $499.99) 

(Don't think it would be seen as a competitor.. feeling the way here..)

9 hours ago, Pat Osterday said:

Update is $49, free if bought in the last three months.  $99 is too steep for me to jump in.  I did like UBK-1 when I had the sub to try all their plugins.  Love Blyss, TWK, 458a and REDDI.

I trialed the UBK1 and really liked it, but the market has too many great compressors for much less for it to be that price point in my opinion.  I would've bought it previously, but it wasn't VST3 and it wasn't scalable.

RRP should be $99 and sale price $49 at most for outright, not upgrade.

It just seems like a way of extracting as much money from existing customers that have V1.

5 minutes ago, satya said:

Says 99$

It does.. RRP is $199.. 

The original is very good, but that's a steep price for V2!

2 minutes ago, GTsongwriter said:

Just get Shaperbox ReverbShaper and be done with needing any more reverb plugins.  😂

I'd never really even considered Shaperbox for reverb until you mentiond it the other day. Will have to check that out at some stage. Definitely not within the next month though!

On 8/15/2024 at 7:55 PM, Starship Krupa said:

I really doubt that you'll have buyer's remorse about dropping $50 on MEssentialsFX. Once you get a look and listen to MTurboDelay and MTurboReverble, you'll see what the fuss is about. MTurboDelay is ridiculously comprehensive and the Bricasti-alike in MTurboReverble is my go-to 'verb.

Better still, while you have time, demo them. I think they reset the demo period counters, so you won't even have to hear the dropouts you'd otherwise get in demo mode.

On 8/18/2024 at 6:04 AM, Brian Walton said:

The turbo reverbLE is something special in the sense that I'm not sure anything else has as much under one roof.  If I could only have one algo reverb this would be it for the combo of versatility, sound quality and general CPU consumption.

I don't care for the layout of mdelay but there is quite a bit in there to.  

Mlimiter is usable and more straightforward than most melda plugins.

So I ended up trying MTurboDelay, MTurboReverbLE and MLimiterX and decided the bundle is definitely worth it, and I'll grab.

Since then I bought FL Studio All Plugins Edition that has just been on sale as it was the cheapest I'd ever seen it and now Steinberg has dropped their 40th Birthday sale that is also the cheapest on some suites that I'd planned on buying as well! 

Why couldn't all these people have spaced out these sales.. now I'm going to have make some decisions and likely miss out on some of them this time around 🤣

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17 minutes ago, Kal S said:

That could be it. I don't own any Better Maker plugins yet.

You are not a fan then!  Haha..

I did wonder if it was a single plugin that triggered it, or having a few. Unless I missed it, they weren't super clear on that part.

4 hours ago, TheSteven said:

Not trying to speak ill of this deal or as they say piss on anyone's parade, just keep in mind

• that all the plugins that come with "All Plugins" only run in FL Studio.
  There are quite a few but you only get the 'native' versions, not VSTs which they no longer sell.
• " Lifetime Free Updates" does not include any new plugins that may be developed in the future, only those that currently exist.
  I don't recall what they charge for new synths or effects for existing "All Plugin" edition owners.  I think you get a discount but don't recall what it is.
  
  from: https://www.image-line.com/fl-studio/lifetime-free-updates

  I own the Signature edition and quite a number of their (now discontinued) VSTs.  Maybe I would feel differently about upgrading if FL Studio was my main DAW, but adding native plugins to my collection isn't worth $99 to me at the moment.

That is a bit of a shame that you can't use them in other DAWs. I'm beyond green with it, but can you do a rewire like thing where you can add the plugin in the other DAW and have it trigger FL and it plays back audio through that plugin ? I think I saw something about that.

I personally don't mind not being able to use them in other DAWs. Part of the fun and attraction is using a DAW for it's unique tools and restrictions.

Their  quote sounds a little ambiguous really..

Quote

"Is everything added, in future, to FL Studio free?
Not everything - Sometimes we develop new synthesizers, effects or tools and add them to specific Editions. You'll notice, from the feature comparison page how these Editions have different core features and plugin bundles."

That almost reads as though you might not if you have Producer as an example, but might if you had the All Plugins bundle as it's the premium one.

Unless they had an update price / charge, or they sell them separately, I'm not sure how else they would handle that. It wouldn't make much sense to say you can't have the new instruments, or plugins ever without rebuying the entire FL Studio version again.

I grabbed this one, because I had intended on picking up Producer or Signature and it really didn't cost much more than I would've been spending anyway with the voucher stacking. And I get to mess around with it now 🤣

1 hour ago, Kal S said:

It's showing up as loyalty pricing of $59.99 at my end.

No mention of fan pricing.

All working OK here, although I haven't bought it, or tested it.. already bought too many things in the last week or so! 🤣

What other Better maker plugins do you own of theirs?

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Sidechain and Ducking functionality

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13 minutes ago, mibby said:

Looks like code "KiiveLoyalty" gives you another 20%:  $56

Still a bit high for another channel strip for me, but YMMV. 

Even better Mibby!

It is expensive, but if you consider that SSL breaks up their Fusion into probably 5 or 6 plugins, at $10 on sale at the lowest end and it also has an entire Neve section on top of that, it's not quite as bad.

2 minutes ago, jngnz said:

It’s actually a better SSL Bus Comp than SSL Bus Comp.

It actually seems better than most of the SSL Fusion plugins in general.

But the Neve MBT side is even better again!

They had to make it unavailable for a little while and change it.. I believe they got a little close to looking like the original hardware units.. 

Kiive NFuse | Bus Processor Re-intro sale $69 | RRP $199

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Should be able to get that for 15% less by siging up to their newsletter first

It's very good!

As per commnet by Mibby:

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Looks like code "KiiveLoyalty" gives you another 20%:  $56