tim E 1 Posted August 30, 2019 There's a latency happening when using the Cakewalk DAW... maybe 200 ms... Doesn't happen with the Pro Tools First DAW... Using same computer same interface... Running a MIDI keyboard into Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 into a Dell 3ghz, 8 gig ram... I think the all of the drivers are up to date... Tried messing with buffer times etc., in the preferences... I know that audio and MIDI latency are different problems... Looked through a bunch of the Forum pages and searched "MIDI latency" but came up with nothing here. If anyone has insight and solutions I will be grateful. Thanks ~Tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promidi 776 Posted August 30, 2019 Are you using ASIO mode? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tim E 1 Posted August 30, 2019 Not sure. Where do I find that? There is a Driver Mode drop-down that only has MME as an option. Is there another way to find out or change to ASIO mode? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promidi 776 Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, tim E said: Not sure. Where do I find that? There is a Driver Mode drop-down that only has MME as an option. Is there another way to find out or change to ASIO mode? Preferences | Audio | Devices and settings - Driver mode Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tim E 1 Posted August 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Promidi said: Preferences | Audio | Devices and settings - Driver mode Found it in Preferences | Audio | Playback and Recording. Changed to ASIO ... got rid of the latency... but now it sustains notes. Just holds onto them until I exit the song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tim E 1 Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) I did some searching in the forum and found helpful info here... https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/5573-stuck-midi-notes-still-a-problem/ In - Prefs, MIDI - Playback and Recording / Playback, I reset the Buffers to 250 ms... seemed to have fixed the problem. But no... still getting a stuck note. Any other fix info would be most helpful. Tim Edited August 30, 2019 by Timhisattva Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promidi 776 Posted August 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Timhisattva said: I did some searching in the forum and found helpful info here... https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/5573-stuck-midi-notes-still-a-problem/ In - Prefs, MIDI - Playback and Recording / Playback, I reset the Buffers to 250 ms... seemed to have fixed the problem. But no... still getting a stuck note. Any other fix info would be most helpful. Tim Try increasing it further.... I have mine at 750 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
User 905133 1,008 Posted August 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Timhisattva said: I did some searching in the forum and found helpful info here... https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/5573-stuck-midi-notes-still-a-problem/ In - Prefs, MIDI - Playback and Recording / Playback, I reset the Buffers to 250 ms... seemed to have fixed the problem. But no... still getting a stuck note. Any other fix info would be most helpful. Tim One source of stuck notes might be the midi data itself--e.g., sustain on with a missing sustain off, note durations that cause the note to hang, etc. If its still a problem and you haven't looked yet, possibly check Views > Event List. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tim E 1 Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Promidi said: Try increasing it further.... I have mine at 750 Tried 750... problem persists. I'll keep trying different buffer settings. I've noticed that when in ASIO mode, I can't adjust the latency, and I'm now getting some "scratchiness" distortion during playback. Seems that --- One thing... leads to another... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tim E 1 Posted August 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, MusicMan11712 (aka Dr. Steve) said: One source of stuck notes might be the midi data itself--e.g., sustain on with a missing sustain off, note durations that cause the note to hang, etc. If its still a problem and you haven't looked yet, possibly check Views > Event List. I'm getting the stuck note when I'm just testing the new settings. Manually playing the midi keyboard... Doesn't ,,, or hasn't yet produced stuck notes during playback. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scook 4,294 Posted August 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Timhisattva said: I've noticed that when in ASIO mode, I can't adjust the latency, and I'm now getting some "scratchiness" distortion during playback. ASIO buffer settings must be made with the software supplied by the audio interface manufacturer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
User 905133 1,008 Posted August 30, 2019 Different problem, then. In that case, recording the note data and looking at the midi events won't show anything useful. Thanks for clarifying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promidi 776 Posted August 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Timhisattva said: I'm getting the stuck note when I'm just testing the new settings. Manually playing the midi keyboard... Doesn't ,,, or hasn't yet produced stuck notes during playback. Then I think it's more to do with with your keyboard is actually transmitting. What model MIDI controller is it? I have never had this issue with my PCR-800 and a Focusrite 2i2 and manually playing VSTis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tim E 1 Posted August 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, scook said: ASIO buffer settings must be made with the software supplied by the audio interface manufacturer. So... I have to find a Focusrite software interface page... somewhere... This is getting to be some fun... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tim E 1 Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Promidi said: Then I think it's more to do with with your keyboard is actually transmitting. What model MIDI controller is it? I have never had this issue with my PCR-800 and a Focusrite 2i2 and manually playing VSTis It's a Quick Shot, Midi Composer... I suppose I could switch over to the Ensoniq EPS (sigh) ... As I said in the OP I have zero problem with the MIDI when using the Pro Tools First DAW... The problem somehow seems to live in Cakewalk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msmcleod 3,382 Posted August 30, 2019 What MIDI driver mode are you using within Cakewalk ? I always use my Focusrite in MME mode rather than UWP: Note: You'll have to close down any project to change this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tim E 1 Posted August 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, msmcleod said: What MIDI driver mode are you using within Cakewalk ? I always use my Focusrite in MME mode rather than UWP: Note: You'll have to close down any project to change this. It's in MME... and that's the ONLY option available in the drop-down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scook 4,294 Posted August 30, 2019 UWP requires Win10 older OSes only support MME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tim E 1 Posted August 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, scook said: UWP requires Win10 older OSes only support MME right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tim E 1 Posted September 4, 2019 Finally got it running right. Thanks guys for the help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites