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12 minutes ago, tecknot said:

Hold down the Shift key is for moving a selection of notes as desired in the OP.  Without the Shift key, you can only move a single note where I am.

Yes I understood that. I was just pointing out that it's not documented. Ref. Guide says the Select tool will move a group of notes just by clicking and dragging one of them. 

 

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11 minutes ago, David Baay said:

Yes I understood that. I was just pointing out that it's not documented. Ref. Guide says the Select tool will move a group of notes just by clicking and dragging one of them. 

 

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Yes, the Staff View DESPERATELY needs an overhaul! It is such an important part of workflow for some of us! I don't mind the PRV for many things, But I am a composer and accustomed to writing "dot and line" for harmonies, multiple parts, whatever. It's just how it is done with some of us when writing music. Of course I mostly use Sibelius for serious work in this regard, but still Cakewalk was one the the first (if not the first) to offer music notation with MIDI in a DAW, it would be nice to maintain the legacy!

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24 minutes ago, Base 57 said:

This.

And it is VERY unintuitive to use the Select tool to move notes regardless of what is written in the (2184 page) user guide. This should work with the Move Tool and the Smart Tool.

Hmmm, my Reference Guide only has 1712 pages, with Staff View described starting on page 1078...

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FWIW, my laptop has 2019.07 CbB.  (1) The awkward finger toggling is in that version, too. (It's the earliest CbB I still have.) (2) Not sure about others, but for me the awkwardness involving complex uses of Ctrl/Shift, (Left-)Click, and Drag is ten times worse on the laptop than on a non-laptop keyboard + mouse.

Thank being said, my staff entry workflow has been to enter notes via a usb or midi keyboard and tweak and/or re-record parts--that is, not even close to 100% via manual note entry and manipulation.  

I am not sure this discussion helps Akira Chen, but I am glad he posted the problem in the first place and for all the contributors to the discussion.  I have some motivic pencil and paper sketches and drafts that have been on my to-do list for a while, and I now have some strategies for those kinds of projects and for others that might involve heavy duty mouse-and-keyboard manipulation of notes.

Apologies if anyone thinks this was not directly related  to the OP.  And, again, thanks to all who chimed in.

 

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23 minutes ago, winkpain said:

Yes, the Staff View DESPERATELY needs an overhaul! It is such an important part of workflow for some of us! I don't mind the PRV for many things, But I am a composer and accustomed to writing "dot and line" for harmonies, multiple parts, whatever. It's just how it is done with some of us when writing music. Of course I mostly use Sibelius for serious work in this regard, but still Cakewalk was one the the first (if not the first) to offer music notation with MIDI in a DAW, it would be nice to maintain the legacy!

I agree. The notation features were largely seen as a back end addition or something that shows notation to an already composed work. Lots of users use the PRV instead. If you only compose in notation I can see where this would be an issue since compared to the better notation programs it is very basic. One option is to use MuseScore which is free and compose using the soundfonts, then export back into Cakewalk as midi for more serious DAW work. It is possible to put something together in Cakewalk's notation feature though there are certainly limitations. 

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On 2/25/2020 at 12:31 AM, David Baay said:

Right-click the Smart Tool button in the Tools module, and make sure the 'Move' option is checked.

Do you use the move option successfully to move notes in staff view?

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2 hours ago, Akira Chen said:

Do you use the move option successfully to move notes in staff view?

Using the Smart tool, yes. But, as noted, it will only move one note of a selected group unless you hold Ctrl while clicking, and then release it while continuing to hold the click and then drag. Using the Select tool as suggested by tecknot works better if you're going to move a lot of notes. But since I pretty much exclusively use the Smart tool in other areas, I prefer not to have to change tools if I can help it.

FWIW, I record all my MIDI in real time, and don't do a lot of note-by-note editing in most cases. When I do, the PRV suits me. But I would love to see the Staff View improved, nevertheless.

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