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10 hours ago, John Vere said:

I absolutely believe that 48/24 is the perfect choice for me.    

And when it becomes the standard I’ll bump it up to 48/32 

I am not sure why anyone would need more, current DAW with PC and software does not benefit from anything more. 24-bit audio recordings can capture a dynamic range of up to 144.5 dB and you don't need more than that in music on any digital platform. Meanwhile, 32-bit float audio can capture the absolutely ludicrous range up to 1,528 dB. That's not only massively beyond the scope of 24-bit audio, but it's beyond the scale of what even counts as a sound on Earth that will eat your file system when tracking to record etc 

2 hours ago, John Vere said:

@whoisp I enjoyed reading your post. It had a few points that related to my past experiences with the dawn of consumer digital gear.
As I said earlier I was using 48 to master to a Sony DAT machine which had replaced my 10” reel to reel. I could definitely hear the improvement overall and mostly it was because I now had that nice clean and quiet sound. And a small item to mail in to replication people. 
Shortly after I bought the Yamaha o1v digital mixer and discovered it was set at 44.1 for SPDIF output. Dang. So I would mix both a 44.1 master via SPDIF and a 48 which involves D/A out to A/D in. Guess which one still sounded better.  
 

Later I got my first PC and soon was using Wave Lab and started transferring all my masters into Wave files. The Sound Blaster Audigy II card had optical inputs so I used that to transfer the DATs.
I had already transferred my 10” tape to DAT at 48. 
I assumed they would be 48 but many years later I discovered that they are only 44.1. I have no clue why but no doubt the Sound Blaster is to blame.  
I later yet replaced that with a Interface that had SPDIF and used my O1v as the pre amps so a lot of stuff was recorded at 44.1. 

In my experience SPDIF is always 44.1 however some modern system where being upgraded to what we was sold SPDIF 48khz and some devices did not work,  i am guessing there is something in the PCB chain given its hardware that caused issues.  We always got issues when set at 48, sometimes the internal clock and the optical SPDIF clock would create driver and compatibility problems, the days when you wanted to hit device manger with a hammer. 

There was a time we always got random phantom clicks in recording, tuned out wifi was interfering with the SPDIF hardware and optical cable. We was like great SPDIF no noise from jack plugs etc then we had a phantom click lol We mess about with all the technology to plug a guitar or mic jack plug in anyway lol

What I can tell you working on, pre, post and live broadcasting for ITV as a sound and video engineer. The reality is we want 48/24 for video and music, less issue with dynamic range loss and anti-aliasing can be a real problem, especially with digital platforms. If you need to know more anti-aliasing varying factors with loss and noise read about Nyquist frequency is a good start.

Why we often resample 44 up to 48 due to those above issues, but why use 44 in first place and resample you ask. Well only because some studios use a desk that have SPDIF or ADAT at 44 or gave us CD or Digi Tape at 44 and not 48 due to upgrading studio is costly. Don’t forget, you lose some of that vintage tech classic sounds of the pre amps etc with some old gear. 

i have a desk with AD Conversion: [24 bit Guitar/Bass]  [24 bit phantom mic (Mic)] [24 bit (Line)] [24 bit (Simul) great desk pre amps ] back to DA Conversion: 24 bit with Internal Processing: 24 bit (digital mixer section) however its  limited to SPDIF  44.1 kHz  so i take a line out to 48kHz  s to bypass the SPDIF as a hybrid work a round 

48/24 is not about our ears, we can’t ear the difference from 44/16 but the digital world does due to things like Nyquist frequency, plugins, software algorithms etc, why we get issues like anti-aliasing, drop outs and much more with massive file size when we push our sampling with audio and midi.

If i use the SPDIF,  you have to set the cakewalk project, interface and system drivers all to   44.1 kHz or its will create noise, anti-aliasing, cackles and drop outs. That is important to note when working with any standard make sure everything is the same standard or you will get bugs and issues. Cakewalk project, your interface drivers and system drivers are all set to your preference which should be 48/24 and why i bypass SPIDF as im forever changing my setting if i don't and you want a stable system first.  Some interfaces have a higher internal clock than 24-bit but i say 48/24 is a safe mode standard 

At one time, 44/16 was better due to CPU restrictions of audio interface, hardware and CPU etc.  48/24 can still be pushing CPU restrictions mixing with large recorded sample files size, plugins and loads of tracks (play/record tracking hammers your system) but everyone should be on 48/24 standard really unless you have NASA power and hardware, 
 

23 hours ago, Supa Reels said:

Great song but vid is too disturbing for my taste ..

Steve

The reality of it is more disturbing for sure, and governments are still causing wars 

On 10/23/2023 at 1:23 AM, freddy j said:

You never fail to impress with your posts.  This one is most certainly not an exception. The topic is an important one and the song, video and entire production certainly gets the point across. 

Impressive work!

Thanx Freddie, ive actually got a job from this song bizarre yesterday, to do a track for a singer in the Philippines and now have to write something in the key of A Major for a young lady that ive not seen or heard lol

On 10/20/2023 at 3:49 PM, Lynn Wilson said:

As always, you've given us a cool video with thought-provoking lyrics.  Your work has given me the impetus to do better!  Keep it up, and you'll get that mojo back.

Cheers lynn  

Nicely polished with great space. I am liking the Indie edge vibe that's coming through on all your work. 

PS: i am digging all your guitars, iv'e always wanted a Les Paul im still suffering on a squire strat and a Tanglewood jazz box haha 

20 hours ago, Bajan Blue said:

Hi

Great stuff - loved it when the guitar solo started around 1.40

Cool video as well

Nigel

 

Cheers Nige, i didn 't know what to do so had a noodle 

13 hours ago, treesha said:

I like to “feel” the music and find working on monitors energizing, but i do check on headphones near the end of the process. Monitors are just more enjoyable to me. 

That's how i feel with headphones, shut the whole world out and just feel the music and nothing else.  

1 hour ago, DeeringAmps said:

Good question p!

 I “check” on cans, buds, and even the iPhone. But I still prefer “working” on the monitors. 
Old man, old ways die hard…

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It's funny, i now preferer doing everything on headphones and will only test on speaks, its how we train our ears i guess 

Boeing CH-47 Chinook, tailgated one on those beasts 

According to statist survey, 87 percent of the respondents use their headphones to listen to music. In fact in the workplace, 93% reported wearing headphones to listen to music. You haev more and more engineers now mixing on things like air pods and a quick test on monitors which i find interesting.  Appears more and more musicians, engineers, and producers do it all the time.

14 hours ago, Kevin Walsh said:

I've written lots of music. Unfortunately it's all dreadful. I don't know which is worse, to produce nothing or to produce nothing but sewage.

12 hours ago, mettelus said:

Don't feel bad... all of the music that comes from my other end always becomes sewage as well.

I did manage to finish this at the weekend and in the irony called it The Minds a Battlefield which is how its been feeling 

3 hours ago, Tim Smith said:

" The Mind Is  a Battlefied" indeed.

Nice production and ceativity in putting it all together. Good luck with it and thanks for sharing.

Cheers Tim, first track for about 3months but im still not feeling like my music mojo is back 

6 hours ago, treesha said:

Sounds great, the mix is great, enjoyed it even if some serious content. Groovy. very well done. In the video a few times your mouth movements don't match the song but its probably ok and maybe intended? At the end, the phrases you posted, I'm not familiar with that situation at all, but wonder if the first sentence should read 'never" where you have "ever" but again I'm not familiar with that situation. Good to see you back at it!

Yes, the video sync on the vocal got nudged in the render for some reason, gives a talking point haha

I guess context of  ever "at any time" when never is more so past or future and there is still time  as its in the process, but i am no expert in legalese code 

The Minds a Battlefield, got a bit of meaning behind it and here's the metaphorical context lol 

On 9/5/2023 at 3:29 PM, Supa Reels said:

I'm loving this .. going forward just keep to the message and not over cook the production ... Great post

ATB

Steve

hopefully i will get round to finishing it but will strip the drums 

8 hours ago, Paul Bush said:

Oh yes well worth going on with really liked that harmony chorus , I though maybe the drums were a bit busy but thats just my taste .nice one 

Yes Paul, i was messing with drums. Maybe just a kick at the start, the idea is there, i get round to it, but already forgot what i did for the guitar broken chords in choirs and the sound FX i had, which i like grrrr.  I did it on my multi peddle and did save 

On 9/1/2023 at 2:47 PM, KSband said:

Sounds like a good idea.

yes, i will try to finish it

On 8/31/2023 at 5:34 PM, jack c. said:

nicely done.jack c

Cheers jack, will get round to doing something with it this month 

I see my brothers are jamming,  love the craziness 

p

Just been noodling with little idea on acoustic and messing with programming a beat, then had a noodle on bass and guitar 

On 8/18/2023 at 9:13 PM, Terry Carroll said:

Don't worry about it at all.  You're in a taking in information mode right now, not a putting out mode.  You will write when you really want to. Read a good book in the meantime. 

Regards,

Terry 

Cheers Terry, ive been doing some technical  report 80 pages long and its done me in 

1 hour ago, treesha said:

Sorry you have been struggling with stuff. I have life interruptions too. One thing I like to do to get something going again is play. Just forget producing something and just play around with an instrument or vst or fx on something. Arps are playful. So my suggestion is to play! Hope you feel better soon. 

Yes ive got to get a report out of the way this week, i can have my head on the report and music at same time, just kills my mojo 

18 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

(1) I hope you are not serious.  (2) If you are serious, DON'T!  (3) Hope you are feeling better (positive and productive) soon. (4) Despite your laughing emoji, you might want to edit your post.  

But, Guy Fawkes is my hero, now there's a song