Matthew White

I did manage to change it in the TE but the preferences setting seems very sticky and I had to close and reopen Cakewalk and switch between a number of themes before the theme setting would override the preferences setting so definitely worth changing it in preferences and saving a colorset as you said.

Shame it didn't work for you, did you hit 'Apply' in preferences, try changing between themes, close and open Cakewalk and do a lucky dance? lol. I had to do most of these when I was checking which item it was for you before the theme color would override the preferences setting for me. Like Colin, mine is also set to white in preferences with the 'Normal' preset. There certainly are plenty of colors that don't appear to change anything, maybe they did once but not anymore, the same goes for some images, I always change them in my themes though so it's easy to find any new items that may get added in a Cakewalk update by simply selecting the 'Unmodified' tab in the editor.

I believe that simply selecting the theme to use is supposed to override colors set in preferences if settings for these colors exist in the theme but that's not always the case and sometimes I find colors sticking from preferences and have to change the theme to another and then back again or sometimes they won't un-stick until I restart Cakewalk. As you may know, Cakewalks GUI was never meant to be customized so I very much suspect this is another side effect of that.

Just seen that's also available in the Preferences Menu which may explain why every theme you try is black text, I suspect your option there is set to black. The cross interaction that can occur between these settings and theme settings can cause confusion and problems sometimes, both for a theme creator and the user.

The background appears to not be changeable, the text can be changed in the editor under: Track View / Control Text and Values, just watch out for any other areas that may change. You say every theme you've tried has black text there, I better go and check my themes then as that's one area I didn't check, it's easy to forget to check some areas especially if they're something you don't use and forget about, maybe I should make a checklist but I'd probably forget something.

Now updated for the changes made in the Cakewalk 2019.7 update.

Now updated for the changes made in the Cakewalk 2019.7 update.

Now updated for the changes made in the Cakewalk 2019.7 update.

Now updated for the changes made in the Cakewalk 2019.7 update.

Now updated for the changes made in the Cakewalk 2019.7 update.

Now updated for the changes made in the Cakewalk 2019.7 update.

Now updated for the changes made in the Cakewalk 2019.7 update.

Hi @MusicMan11712 (aka Dr. Steve), The areas of text you've surrounded red and yellow are unfortunately not currently changeable, neither is the background of that area, only the text that appears within that displays the details of whatever is selected at the time is changeable. As I see on another post you commented on since you posted this question, you've already figured the Control Bar Tabs at the top as well as all other buttons have to be edited individually via the Cakewalk Theme Editor and using suitable image editing software, the free app 'paint.net' is fine and easy enough to figure out with some trial and error if you don't already have anything else that you're familiar with. In the previously mentioned comment on the other post you said the following 'Evidently (if I understand the discussion correctly), it cannot be done with font/text parameters; rather, it seems that every place there is text, a new graphic would have to be created.' , Yes, that is sort of correct for most buttons and tabs but many other areas of text are changeable such as buttons or displays where the text needs to be changeable like track name, inputs/outputs etc, these can be changed in the Theme Editor with no need to paint or remake a new image. Here's a list that tells you which changes what, intended for the color customization area of the Cakewalk Preferences menu but many/most items will also appear and be changeable in the Theme Editor..... https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=Dialogs2.075.html

Another Theme to add to the choices, M-Blue Flare is a dark theme with bright blue text, a blue flare effect (darker top into light then back to darker at the bottom) on most buttons and some other items, blue curved effect meter LEDs (full sized meters and ProChannel Eq flyout meters only), Faders with blue flare effect LED centre position mark and gold track faders. Free Download here..... M-Blue Flare

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