Michael Vogel

Bear in mind that like playing any musical instrument there are the mechanics of playing and then the extra bits that add feel/emotion into the music.

That is the real art in writing music as MIDI. 
It’s important to have an appreciation for how an instrument is played, and how good the MIDI synth can replicate the sound of the chosen instrument and how well the composer can manipulate the MIDI to play like a real performance of that instrument. 
Example. You can write the notes (with MIDI) for a saxophone synth to play but how  close to a real saxophone being played will it sound. 

I thought CAL was deprecated quite a while ago and Cakewalk would only support the few scripts that came in the installer. 

You could try Notion. It’s now owned by Presonus and part of Studio One.Not sure if a standalone version is still available but its a simple matter over going to the Presonus site and have a look around.

See The Cakewalk Reference Guide pg 1093 for tips on why and how to use the console emulator. 
 

if you don’t have the reference guide see thread in the main Cakewalk page just a few threads above yours for a link  

Yep. Thats the nature of non-destructive editing. Everything is saved in the project audio folder. It’s a great protection however you can use the Clean audio tool to delete what may become an orphaned audio file. In a very real sense, the cwp file is a record of all the midi data recorded and all the audio edits done to the various audio files. But all the audio tracks remain in tact and true most recent saved  project file will show all the latest edits. The referenced audiophile file remains unchanged.  There are however various editing processes that are destructive and commit changes to disc.

It’s worthwhile reading up the reference guide to come to grips with the ideas behind non-destructive editing. ON the surface it may seem wasteful but it makes for a very flexible and safe way to edit what is sometime extremely valuable audio data.

On 7/24/2021 at 2:33 AM, Mark Bastable said:

Incidentally, I suspect I'm going through exactly the same process that I encountered when I taught myself a computer coding language thirty-odd years ago - which is that I'm learning things in the order I need them to solve immediate problems, rather than in any simple-to-complex sequence.

When I eventually got a job working with trained programmers, it turned out there were some very straightforward and fundamental techniques about which, rather embarrassingly,  I had no clue at all. But on the other hand, I sometimes cobbled together unconventional solutions about which my co-workers said, "Blimey, how did you get it to do that?"

Which is not to suggest I’m even close to impressing anyone on this forum. I’m a long way from that. I’m just admitting to ignorance. 
 

It's not so much a learning curve as a learning splatter. It'll take me a while to get it all to join up.

With the complexity of a program like CbB, the learning path can often be dictated by where you jumped on the merry go round. 
I’ve always recommended getting to grips with the basics and building skills of greater complexity rather than “seeing” a task to complete and only taking those steps necessary for that. You lose cohesion between the various program functions. 
I understand however that CbB’s depth and complexity do make the “jump on the merry go round” process the more often taken path. 

Just to add my few cents to provide even more clarification. 
CbB (as Sonar previously) edits non destructively, which means that all audio data is committed to disc. As Noel said once a project has been saved all data has and will continue to to be committed to disc even if it’s deleted from view by deletion of a visible track. The data files remain. 
 

On 7/11/2021 at 12:51 AM, scook said:

Since its reintroduction, the pdf is updated regularly. Most times very close to the version release date.

Good to know about the change. My last info on the update frequency was actually from a post of yours but that was quite some time ago. I don’t remember how long ago that was.  

Wow. Imagine that. A youngster in the Cakewalk forum. I was one once.
When I first started using Cakewalk it was purely a MIDI sequencer. 

Here’s what dr Google has to say about HDMP files. 
“A file with the HDMP file extension is a Windows Heap Dump file used for storing uncompressed error files generated, or "dumped," when a program crashes in some versions of Windows. Compressed dump filesare stored in the MDMP (Windows Minidump) format and are used by Windows to send the crash reports to Microsoft.”

Hope that helps. Though you probably have already looked it up yourself. 

On 1/10/2021 at 2:42 PM, Archie Newton said:

Does anyone out there know how to do a word search in the lovely reference manual?  I knew at one time but have forgotten.  Thank you in advance for your help.

 

Whichever PDF viewer you use should have a search function (usually a magnifying glass icon) that you can use. Also if you start at the beginning of the document you’ll find that the table of contents has links to major subjects which in turn will also have hyperlinks to more specific info as you drill down. 

As for when you’re working in Cakewalk by Bandlab itself you can select to use Online help (in the last of the top row of m,ends) which will give you access to areas of information connected to the area highlighted on the current screen view you have. The online version is also always up to date whereas the PDF is updated annually or thereabouts. All the best.

Congratulations Noel and Cakewalk team. I’m astounded how many improvements continue to be made to this program.  

I guess I could always find something to complain about or beg for a specific change or feature but after having now passed 25 years of using Cakewalk/Pro/Sonar/CbB (along with other programs) I’m actually content to follow Cakewalk’s vision for the program’s development.

Since the acquisition by Bandlab, I have to admit I haven’t been able to keep up with the rate of development of existing and addition of some of the new features. The program now far outstrips my ability to maintain what I once would have claimed as being a very high level of proficiency with its use.

I guess I continue to make music (when health permits) the same as I’ve done for ages and while the improved stability and smoothness benefit my process, I’m a long way off using many of the new features. While that leaves me more to explore in Cakewalk itself, I really miss the days when I felt I was able to make meaningful contributions to the community here. Like chiming in to answer a query regarding a function or process. These days I’m lucky if I understand the question. Lol

Anyways, after rambling on so much; congratulations again to Noel and the team for another stellar update.

14 hours ago, InstrEd said:

Maybe you are having to many Vegimite sandwiches 🤔

Despite my land down under-ness, Vegemite (note correct spelling) is not a favourite, though I will eat it medicinally eg.  for upset tummy.
Hey! Does GAS count as an upset tummy? 
You may be onto something. Hmm!

I think Larry provides a stabilising force. Without that stability, I’ve run amok.
I just can’t think of any other reason why the GAS happened now. As I said before; inexplicable. 

Hey Larry, is there a connection between your departure and my sudden and inexplicable episode of GAS?  
Please hurry back before I go broke. 

7 hours ago, kennywtelejazz said:

He sure looks the Part ! Dogs make great conversational smile generators .

 

Kenny

I don’t have a canine conversational smile generator but I do have 2 of the feline versions. 
I give them a 9/10 effectiveness in the smile generating department. The score is more a reflection of my smile ability than the feline generation ability. At a full 10/10 cuteness factor they’re beyond surpassing. 
 

I own all the Waves plugins (Except Abbey Road Studio 3) and use the Waves/Digigrid hardware system for my audio and VST processing.

None of my plugins were current with some being V9 and others V11.  In the meantime there's been some important upgrades to the drivers and a few other bits of software. I was able to get a 15% discount on my WUP ($240 down to $211) from Everyplugin.com  so that was good value to bring me fully up to date on V12 for all my plugins and drivers. Unless there's an important update

After proudly announcing that I was over GAS and in full control having only done 2 upgrades in the last couple of years, I felt quite OK doing the upgrade of Spectralayers 6 to 8, after all I had skipped V7 completely. 
 

That one justified purchase and another enquiry at Everyplugin.com about Melodyne Studio 4 to 5 and I’m back on the GAS. In that one evening I did Spectralayers 6 to 8, Melodyne Studio 4 to 5 and a quote for a 15% Waves WUP discount ( I own all the Waves plugins) caught me completely off guard. Now I’m done.
 

I was able to justify every single purchase and feel good about it. I can’t wait to come to grips with all the new features I’m going to get to play with. 
 

Because I use the Waves Digigrid hardware to offload plug-in processing to a server/audio interface, I’m particularly looking forward to the latest features in that area.

Along with some recent upgrades to my Raven MTi1 software and it will feel like new studio. 
 

Now all I have to do is workout why my DAW PC has a completely black screen when I turn it on. Always something hey!

That’s a great link. Thanks. Unfortunately just a day too late. I downloaded the update last night. 

19 hours ago, Marshall said:

If you have Melodyne Studio 4 the upgrade to Studio 5 is $83.12 at EveryPlugin. Like others mention - this is good until 30th June. 
 

Out of interest, what is your main driver for wanting to upgrade? I’ve resisted so far. 

Appreciate you letting me know, thanks. I’ve saved a lot of money by not automatically upgrading every plugin and program I have. This year I’ve only upgraded to Spectralayers 8 and last year upgraded Studio One Pro 4 to 5. So thats been the lot for the last 2 years or so.

As for Melodyne itself, the new features/improvements seem interesting and for the upgrade price, good value.

From the Celemony website:

• the ability to edit pitched and noise-like components separately with the “Melodic” algorithm
• a more musical analysis of pitch deviations
• the Chord Track and Chord Grid for pitch editing, chord recognition
• the Fade Tool and Leveling Macro for editing dynamics
• an additional algorithm (“Percussive Pitched”) plus other algorithm improvements
• search functions for keyboard shortcuts, saving of shortcut sets

Hey guys, I have Melodyne 4 and looking for an upgrade coupon to M Studio 5. Anyone have an unused upgrade coupon they would like to pass on. Thanks. 

Hey guys, I have Melodyne 4 and looking for an upgrade coupon to M Studio 5. Anyone have an unused upgrade coupon they would like to pass on. Thanks. 

Cheers.

It’s the first bit of software I’ve bought this year. Upgraded from V6 for AUD$119

The last software I bought before that was an upgrade to Studio One 5 Pro about a year ago. Just don’t have that burning desire to buy new software anymore. Especially the never ending plugin update merry go round. I haven’t updated any of my paid plugins for over a year.  I have the Melda Total FX Bundle so it gets updated free for life.
 

My vast other collection of programs and plugins is frozen at late 2019 versions with my Waves WUP having expired early last year.  Actually my Waves Soundgrid software is up to date till Oct 2021 as I need it active to use my Digigrid  Hardware. 
 

I’ve finally worked out that if I can’t make a quality recording with what I’ve got, well then having the latest version of the same thing won’t really help. 
 

I used to proudly proclaim being infected/afflicted with GAS; am I sick or have I become well?

I too have gone to 21H1. Software and hardware working fine at this early stage of testing.