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27 minutes ago, Milton Sica said:

To is equal. The vst not is found. Execute only in one folder after the upgrade my windows to 2004.

Thanks Milton. My problem is slightly different but it may be related.  I recently ran the June 1909 Windows update.  CbB was working until I installed a new VST and ran the VST scanner. The scanner found all VSTs according to the VST log, but afterward I had two CbB crashes. Now CbB sees only its own DXi's and all other third-party synths and plugins are not found.

1 hour ago, msmcleod said:

I did notice that both AmpleSound guitars weren't there tho, which were listed in your original screenshot:

I uninstalled the Ample Semihollow.

That VST was what precipitated this I think. According to the guys at AmpleSound, the original crash may have been due to its dependence on OpenGL. I subsequently turned it off, but it made no difference -- CbB still crashed when I tried again. So then their theory was that the VST3 version was causing the problem, so I deleted that and rescanned the VSTs. At that point, the menu problem arose. One or both of the crashes probably had already done the damage. The CbB crashes, whatever the cause, were hard. There was no dump, just a long pause, then CbB was gone.

Thanks a lot.

Here is the reg export. I changed the extension to txt.

Cakewalk VST X64 Inventory.txt

4 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

hmm... not sure what to recommend here.

Two or three things to try:

1. Change the plugin layout to manufacturer, check the plugins are there, then change back to category

2. I got a similar thing a while back (before I was staff), and I think I got around it by:

• Renaming one of my 3rd party plugin DLL's (some random free one)  to .dll.bak (e.g. SanfordDelay.dll  to SanfordDelay.dll.bak)
• Doing a VST scan within CbB Preferences
• Renaming the vst back (e.g. SanfordDelay.dll.bak back  to SanfordDelay.dll )
• Doing another VST scan within CbB Preferences

I can't remember if this in itself worked,.. or if I had to do 3:

3. Do a full VST scan in preferences, with the "Rescan All Plugin-Ins" box checked.

 

Thanks Mark. I've tried 1. and 3. more than once with the same outcome. I think that may meet the definition of insanity.

5 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

I believe the format of the database changed sometime in 2019, so try renaming it so that CbB can create a new one.
 

Thanks. I tried that. It created what looks like a baseline library dated 2016. Still no luck with the 3rd party plugs and synths. I restored yesterday's library with same negative outcome.

Thanks so much for your persistence with this. I'll follow up here when I get to the root cause.

It is a mystery but I'm pretty sure they maintain a set of links to the various types of plugins, and the links to the internal ones are still intact but the 3rd party links are lost. This all started this morning when i fired up a project that had a new instrument (Ample Guitar SH). The plugin loaded, but when I clicked on track view to reset the position in the timeline, CbB hard crashed, no dump, and from then on, 3rd party plugins wouldn't show up. Ample Guitar support suggested I turn off OpenGL support in the plugin, which I did, but the plugin's were missing after that. I've now uninstalled the plugin and still get the same result.

I think the crash damaged a reference entry somewhere, maybe in the registry or in a cache file, that is used to find the 3rd party plugins and that reference is missing or corrupt.

Since I've been running OK for a few days, until this morning, on the latest rev of CbB, I am reluctant to back out to the previous version until I exhaust the possibilities with this revision. I just pinged support (I think) via Noel Borthwick's member page and got an automated response that asked me for more information. I hope they are responsive as you have been!

I am current on all .NET/VS libraries through 2019, etc. and back to 2005, as that is my primary development environment. I stay current on all updates for business reasons. I also noticed that the standard SONAR effects are available in the FX popup menu. It's the 3rd party VSTs (2 and 3) synths and effects plugins that are not found.

the registry doesn't appear to be corrupt. the vsts are there, along with the plugin paths. it's pretty clear there is a link somewhere in the CbB architecture that connects the registry entries with the software and that link is broken. The VST scanner is a separate thing and it knows where to look.

BTW, i tried restoring the Library.db file from yesterday's backup, thinking that was the link, but it didn't have any effect.

Yes i have them but they don't work anymore. I just created a new one, but it doesn't work either. I tried SONAR X1 just to see if this is a global problem, but X1 sees the plugins just fine. 

I'm a software developer. Usually i can suss out the missing connection but my intuition is failing me here!!

Is there no other technical support besides the forum?

Same results. VST scans successful, but only DXi's showing.

I'm out of ideas now too. Don't know enough about CBB architecture to dig in further.

Thanks a lot for your help. You've been great.

Thanks for engaging with me on this

PC inserts are working.

Not familiar with PC modules menu.

No compression on any of my drives.

Just browsed through the library.db file with SQLite browser and file opens, looks like plugins and other resources are defined. No error in opening the db, so it's probably not corrupted. So maybe there is some other connection between the plugins and the library.db and CBB that has been corrupted.

Also, Kontakt and a couple of other plugs work as stand-alones.

I run as Admin and UAC is disabled.

I get the typical error when things are not registered. Here's a simple sample project:

I  renamed it and it substituted a library with a modified date of 2016. Existing projects still do not find the plugins.

The folder is not compressed.

Also, given that all plugins for existing projects are not found when i try to open a project, i think this is beyond a menu problem and so i'm suspecting the Library.db may be corrupt since it looks like there are registry CLSIDs in it. I did restart windows just because...no change.

scook:

The menu (pgl) files are present and look like they contain all of the plugins.

Yes there are both log files showing substantially the same results. No errors other than the expected failing plugs. No indication that the scan failed or terminated unsuccessfully.

I'm using build 2020 05 build 039 64-bit.

VST Scanner 6.0.3.0

Scanner paths below. The partially visible one is "c:\program files\native instruments\vstplugins 64 bit"

One more thing:

There is a file called Library.db in the AppData folder (AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\Library) that looks like a SQLite database. A quick scan with a hex editor shows entries for VSTs among other things. Could this file have been corrupted somehow? If so, can it be recreated or refreshed?

Yes it runs to completion. I've scanned the log. Aside from a few plugs that are old and fail, most 90+ are successful. Here's a typical result for one plug. Others look similar:

LogFile: C:\Users\Bill Pearson\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\Logs\VstScanSandbox.log
Saturday, 13 Jun 2020, 09:50:03 
Opened Log File -----------------------------
Command line: /VSTRegPerUser/VSTRegKey:"Software\Cakewalk Music Software\Cakewalk\Cakewalk VST X64"/Background/SONARHWND:9376626/ScanVst:"c:\program files\native instruments\kontakt 4\vstplugins 64 bit\Kontakt 4.dll"/ToastGuid:{475EDB57-E691-4165-AD5F-01461C97798E}
Flag: VSTRegPerUser
Flag: VSTRegKey:"Software\Cakewalk Music Software\Cakewalk\Cakewalk VST X64"
Flag: Background
Flag: SONARHWND:9376626
Flag: ScanVst:"c:\program files\native instruments\kontakt 4\vstplugins 64 bit\Kontakt 4.dll"
VST to scan - c:\program files\native instruments\kontakt 4\vstplugins 64 bit\Kontakt 4.dll
Flag: ToastGuid:{475EDB57-E691-4165-AD5F-01461C97798E}
VSTSCAN: ******* Analyzing VST plugins...
VSTSCAN: ---- 1: c:\program files\native instruments\kontakt 4\vstplugins 64 bit\Kontakt 4.dll ----
VSTSCAN: [ShortPath] c:\PROGRA~1\NATIVE~1\KONTAK~1\VSTPLU~2\KONTAK~3.DLL
VSTSCAN: [RegKey] Software\Cakewalk Music Software\Cakewalk\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory\c:/program files/native instruments/kontakt 4/vstplugins 64 bit/Kontakt 4.dll
VSTSCAN: ---- Loading VST plugin c:\program files\native instruments\kontakt 4\vstplugins 64 bit\Kontakt 4.dll ----
VSTSCAN: DLL loaded successfully...
VSTSCAN: Successfully got entry point. DLL is a VST plugin...
VSTSCAN: Calling entry point...
VSTSCAN: Created plugin instance...
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effVendorSpecific=50(effVendorSpecific), 1130457957, 000000007FFF0003, 0000000000146DBC, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000000
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effGetPlugCategory=35(effGetPlugCategory), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000000000000, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000002
VSTSCAN: Checking Plugin properties...
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effOpen=0(effOpen), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000000000000, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000000
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effGetProgram=3(effGetProgram), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000000000000, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000000
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effCanDo=51(effCanDo), 0, 0000000000000000, 00000001400484A0, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effGetPlugCategory=35(effGetPlugCategory), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000000000000, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000002
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effSetSampleRate=10(effSetSampleRate), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000000000000, 44100.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000000
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effSetBlockSize=11(effSetBlockSize), 0, 0000000000000200, 0000000000000000, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000000
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effCanDo=51(effCanDo), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000140045538, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000001
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effGetVendorString=47(effGetVendorString), 0, 0000000000000000, 00000000001494D0, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000001
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effGetEffectName=45(effGetEffectName), 0, 0000000000000000, 00000000001498D0, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000001
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effGetProductString=48(effGetProductString), 0, 0000000000000000, 00000000001490D0, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000001
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effCanDo=51(effCanDo), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000140045508, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000001
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effVendorSpecific=50(effVendorSpecific), 1936999233, 0000000046554944, 0000000000148FB0, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000000
VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effClose=1(effClose), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000000000000, 0.000000 )
VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000001
VSTSCAN: Finished checking plugin properties...
VSTSCAN: Unloading VST dll...
VSTSCAN: VST plugin successfully scanned
VSTSCAN: WRITE VST DATA...
VSTSCAN: WRITE VST DATA - successfully wrote complete VST plugin inventory record...
VSTSCAN: Finished analyzing VST plugins - 1 of 1 VST plugins were scanned in this run
Closing log file
Saturday, 13 Jun 2020, 09:50:03 

I had tried a reset. Just tried it again. No change. Only DXis showing. Is there a file that contains or points to a menu?

Thank you both for the quick replies. Only the DXi plugs are found when I select sort by type, manufacturer, etc., which I never use.

The VST scan finds all of the VSTs (2 and 3) according to the VST scan log.

When I open an existing project, it no longer sees any of the VSTs, reports them as missing.

Just for starters, I'm a veteran CW user from early days and have recently switch to CBB, which been happily using until this morning.

As of this morning, I no longer see any synths or plugins in the pop-up menu. I've run the VST scan multiple times, tried resetting and rerunning the scan, but no luck. None of my existing projects find any plugins at all now. Anyone have a suggestion?

Many thanks.