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Okay. I won't.

Thanks for your input scook. But the link you've provided is to the current version. I want a link to the previous version. I am having problems with the current version.

Hi,

I'm with Win 7. I just downloaded the latest version of CW & have interface graphics issues & it has crashed for the first time ever. So I'd like to roll back to the previous version, but I cant find a link. I understand that CW will no longer support Win 7, even though everywhere on the site it still states that the software is compatible with it.

Thanks.

Hi Jim, thanks for your response. I have only just seen this message. I have been using the fb Zoom page, very helpful people. The drum pads I have found totally useless for my requirments. It's not possible to record with them whilst playing back other tracks or recording other tracks simultaneously, so you'd have to imagine the music in your mind whilst recording the a drum track to your music. I have no idea why that facility has been specificly designed that way. Building a drum track to a song blindly, in a series of small loops, & patching them together is too much of a mammoth task for me. I'd rather play perc manually or use my laptop keyboard with the perc in the daw.

2 hours ago, David Baay said:

Nudge should also work on selected notes in the Inline PRV. Maybe try moving the clip to a new track; it seems like the existing one has gotten into a bad state somehow.

I tried it with a couple of new tracks & get the same result. There must be a setting I've accidentally changed somehwere.

1 hour ago, Chappel said:

Does NUDGE have any effect on the notes? This looks like a good use for it if it does.

Yes, NUDGE works okay thanks, but it's useful only for moving a whole clip of notes. Anyway I'm using the work around now, it's convenient enough. Thank you.

31 minutes ago, David Baay said:

The Move tool will only appear when you hover over the middle third of the note; outside that area, you get tools to change the start and end time of the note. Possibly you're hovering over a different part of the note in this particular track because the notes are longer at the current horizontal zoom level, and when you zoomed vertically, you just happend to hover over the correct area...?

It's a hi hat track. I've hovered over all areas of both horizontal & vertical parts; the movement tool tip does not appear, unless I change to Fit To Content. I am using the Inline PRV.

So I have found a work around, but not solved the issue:

I have found that if I select Fit To Content, where the grid in Inline PRV changes to a dual grey tone & the note lines enlarge to blocks, only then can I select the notes for movement. I don't find this view easy on the eyes though.

Thanks for your efforts guys.

Yes. I have found that if I select Fit To Content, where the grid in Inline PRV changes to a dual grey tone & the note lines enlarge to blocks, only then can I select the notes for movement. I don't find this view easy on the eyes though.

3 minutes ago, winkpain said:

...Or perhaps you have a different tool selected. Hit "T" to engage Tool window and make sure Smart Tool (arrow on the left) or the Move Tool (crosshairs) are selected in order to move notes in PRV or inline PRV

I have the correct + tool selected. Also, the Smart tool has all selections checked, but doesn't show the move + tool tip when the cursor is hovered over the note, even though the other tool selections work okay.

3 minutes ago, scook said:

In the track view to gain access to the notes in a MIDI clip change the edit filter ("A" in the image below) to notes. This engages the inline piano roll view.

 

I have that filter set to Notes. I want to move the notes in the track view so I can visually align them with the kick drum track.

5 minutes ago, winkpain said:

Perhaps a Clip Lock is engaged?  (right-click the clip or look in the Clip pane of the Inspector)

 

 

The lock is set to Off.

I have recorded a MIDI hi hat track but cannot move the notes in the track pane. The tool will not show the + tool tip on the note, though all the other tools work okay. With the other two drum tracks I have created I am able to see the + tool tip & move notes okay. All the track settings seem to be the same.

Great, figured it out. Thanks very much guys for your ongoing assistance. 4 days in & almost completed my first kick drum track 🤣

I'm new to CW. I have a drum track which I have somehow accidentally altered the view of, but don't know how to reverse. I have searched the shortcut list, but don't know the name of the view, if it is a view change at all. I have attached a screen shot. There are 2 drum tracks. The one coloured orange is the one which has changed. I might prefer to use it with this look, but I don't know how to change it, why this is an option or what benefits it might have over the original style (the second drum track with blue dashes below it).

4 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

Glad that part of it helps!  Its been a while since I setup my AZController preset/configuration.  IIRC it shows what midi is being received.  Do the drum pads show they are sending out data there?

 

No, they don't respond at all. I think I'm through with investigating this any further. For now I'll record the drums in real time using my laptop keyboard, until I get a more comprehensive dedicated controller.

Thanks very much for your help, & your optimism!

35 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

I had success using AZController to set up my nanoKontroller both with the Cakewalk interface and parameters on my favorite plug-in.  I don't have the links handy, but he has some videos that helped me get started and he has a website that should be easy to search for.  Maybe it will help you with the Zoom.

I should add that with the nanoKontrol, all of the sliders and buttons are configurable with the Korg Editor. I am not sure Zoom let's you do that or if they even publish what data the controls use.

I looked at the Zoom site a few hours ago and saw that as of February 2020 they still seem to be testing their software with other music programs.  You might want to see if they are testing Cakewalk and if not perhaps you could ask them to include it in their tests.

Thanks. I installed, set up the AZ Controller & checked the videos. The drum pads on the R8 don't respond to thr AZ Controller software. The faders, rotary knob & many of the buttons do. I think it will not be possible to record drums in real time using the drum pads of the R8. It seems they're switched off in order to prevent this.

30 minutes ago, scook said:

ACT is not used to send MIDI note data to a synth. ACT is used to control the plug-in UI.

Synths like SI-Drums expect to receive MIDI data directly from the controller. This is done by defining the controller as a MIDI input device and setting the controller as the input on the synth's instrument or MIDI track.

Sometimes the notes sent by a controller need to be transposed in order to meet the expectations of a synth. This translation is performed either in the controller's setup or the DAW using a drum map.

Thanks for the info . I have set up two Controller Set Up options now for MIDI Control Surfaces.

I am at the stage where I have opened an instrument track as SI-Drums, & set the Zoom R8 so I control the track vol fader, appropriate either solo/mute/rec commands, move between tracks using the arrow U/D buttons & expand or collapse them, use the rotary selection wheel to move the line marker, & various other functions. But this is not what I need, as it's not really any faster or convenient than using the mouse for these controls. Perhaps these would be useful for recording analogue instruments directly through the R8. Anyway I digress.

I want to be able to record real time drums from the pads of R8 (as they are velocity sensitive) using the sounds of, in this case, the SI-Drums. I have set the R8 as the input on the SI-Drums track, but I can only play the drums with either the mouse of the laptop keyboard, which of course is not touch sensitive. OR, when a drum is selected with the mouse, the R8 direction U/D buttons can trigger it. Also, when a parameter is selected on the SI-Drums panel, the same buttons function.

I have now achieved opening the ACT MIDI Controller presets window correctly. There is no preset for the Zoom R8, so I will have to custom create one. I now need to figure out how to create a custom preset button template for a MIDI drum kit, for example the CW SI-Drum Kit. This is a long process. I hope it is possible.

I have connected the Zoom R8 to CW as a control surface (preferences>Midi>Control Surfaces & set up in/outputs), but when selecting 'Zoom R Series 1' at the bottom of the CW utilities menu there are no controls available. A small window opens stating 'R Series Sonar Plug-in  1.2.0.0 64bit edition'. The presets field of this window opens to reveal a blank white menu. Is this because it is not supported or do I need to configure?

I have discovered that it's not possible to record drums in real time on the R8 (the drum pad native functions are changed when the R8 is in record mode), so I want to assign samples to the built-in pads of the R8 & use them to record real time into Cakewalk. I am a beginner in recording & so don't know whether this is possible, but the R8 is supposed to be able to be used to control certain aspects of a DAW.

Enlightenment much appreciated.

3 minutes ago, scook said:

When ASIO4All is selected in preferences?

The options for both Playback & Record TM are now ASIO4ALL v2 Zoom R8 1. My problem has been solved. I have no latency issues with audio outputting from the laptop to the Zoom R8, i.e, the metronome for recording or track playback for headphone monitoring.

I don't know why the Zoom R8 when interfacing is set to 96.0. I have only been recording with it at 44.1khz 24bit.

Again, thanks for your help.

8 minutes ago, scook said:

What ASIO4All does is wrap one or more WDM drivers for one or more devices and present them to the DAW as an ASIO driver. As far as the DAW is concerned, there is one ASIO driver called ASIO4All. The smaller the ASIO buffer size, the lower the latency. Using 96kHz sample rate probably needs a 256 sample buffer size or smaller to effectively monitoring through the DAW.

 

I have resolved the issue. I needed to re-boot the R8 for the ASIO4All driver to recognise the R8 driver. I have reduced the ASIO buffer size to 128.
Thes are the new parameters showing in CW:

Buffers in playback queue - 2
Buffer size is just below Fast & 4.7 msec / 208 samples
Effective latency at 44khz/stereo 4.7 msec
ASIO reported latencies (includes buffer & hardware latencies): Input & Output both = 5.4 msec, Samples 240. Total Roundtrip 10.9 msec, 480 samples.

Are these settings good?

Thanks very much for your assistance scook.

6 minutes ago, scook said:

ASIO4All

 

Yes, there is a 'tool' with ASIO4All, but I don't understand how it works. In its panel it shows the two drivers (Zoom R8 & Realtek) that I cannot choose in CW when the Driver Mode is set to ASIO. Each has some options which can be changed. For example, the Zoom R8 options are as follows:

Latency compensation - In: currently set to 32 Samples / Out: currently set to 32 samples. Hardware buffer (unchecked). Kernel Buffers: currently set at 2. Always resample 44.1khz<->48khz (unchecked). Force WDM Driver To 16 Bit (unchecked)

Also, if I highlight the Zoom R8 in the WDM Device list of the panel, there are listed: Out: 2x 44.1-96khz, 24Bits & In:2x 44.1-96khz, 24Bits.

At the bottom of the panel is a slider for the ASIO Buffer Size, defaulted to 512 Samples.

I am not knowledgeable enough to understand the ramifications of these settings or how to apply them to my problem.

8 minutes ago, scook said:

This is normal. ASIO must use the same driver for input and output.

IIRC, ASIO4All aggregates WDM drivers so there should be a configuration tool supplied by the manufacturer to setup which devices are used by the software.

 

Sorry, I don't understand. Supplied by the manufacturer of what? The laptop, the drivers, the R8?

Previously I was told to preferably use the ASIO Driver Mode & choose the Zoom R8 options for Playback & Record TM. You are implying that this is not possible? Then hwo can I use the ZoomR8 driver for output without having the latency problem?

On someones advice I istalled ASIO4ALL. However, when selected as Driver Mode, it provides only itself as an option for Playback & Record TM.