King Burton

I use the prochannel section a lot. Channel Tools doesn't work at all. Guess I'm down to uninstall/reinstall. Takes so long I hate wasting most of a day.

Started a new project to test. Same results. Reported it days ago to Support. No help

WOW!!!!  Uh. . . .I don't even know what Offset Mode is or does!!! Don't know where to even locate it!! Quick look on Document says click it on/off (???) not what the button / icon is. Searched hard my workspace but nothing I can see. So, where is it and how would I know it's on by my screenshot?        BTW - yudamain

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Found it. It was not in my workspace. For one project turned on, another off.  ???  I did as recommended but no change. I suspect uninstall and reinstall in my future. LOTA WORK on my part. Reported to to support. They referred me to this thread.  sigh

Thanks for the reply Bit. Sent a couple screen shots earlier of a sample project with the intention of focusing on a single track. If I resolve that, then I have about 30 projects to revisit to resolve. Worked in electronics manufacturing for 35 yrs. You are correct about how pan works. So let me try to describe again the issue. It's far simpler than you think.

Console view. Mono track. Mono interleave. Stereo interleave output. Pan law is 0 Balance.  Start Pan setting at center. Sound in both ears. Turn knob to hard left = slight volume increase in both ears. Turn knob to hard right = volume off. Pan knob is not acting as a pan but a volume control. Used Cakewalk like this 15 yrs and worked fine. Issues a a while back required a brute force delete of Cakewalk and clean reinstall. That's when I noticed this and honestly been too busy to address. What's leaving me wringing my hands is I'm in the middle of a paying project and can't afford the down time uninstalling and reinstalling. Thought it might be something silly as a box not checked. Looks like bigger than I thought.

Regardless I highly appreciate you assist. You are very kind to respond.

King

J nTuneTech - Been using Cakewalk 15 years maybe. Learned just sittin' and piddling with it. NEARLY everyone has been absolute PROs and generous with advise. It's why I hang out here.

Thanks for the input and chat J. Run into you again soon pard.

JnTuneTech - what you see has worked for years. Now it doesn't. P-Firestudio is versatile. 4-stereo or 8-mono. I suppose I could, now the track is done, change to np input. Would change the fact track is displayed as mono.

I think it is VOODOO!!! Somebody - Somewhere - is waving a chicken around.

?? Take Lanes?? No take lanes. They are tracks. I never make a project with everything centered. That means your project is 1950s MONO.

Thanks Bitflipper. While I'm addressing one track here, it is project wide across all projects I have done in a year. Haven't worried about it until recently now I really need it.

Also, changed interleave back & forth, converted mono track to stereo back and forth. Pan knob is just a volume knob.

So you know, this is what I go by:

To change panning laws

1.

Go to Edit > Preferences > Audio - Driver Settings.

2.

In the Stereo Panning Law field, choose one of these options:

(Default) 0 dB center, sin/cos taper, constant power. This choice causes a 3 dB boost in a signal that’s panned hard left or right, and no dip in output level in either channel when the signal is center panned.

-3dB center, sin/cos taper, constant power. This choice causes no boost in a signal that’s panned hard left or right, and 3dB dip in output level in either channel when the signal is center panned.

0dB center, square-root taper, constant power. This choice causes a 3 dB boost in a signal that’s panned hard left or right, and no dip in output level in either channel when the signal is center panned.

-3dB center, square root taper, constant power. This choice causes no boost in a signal that’s panned hard left or right, and 3dB dip in output level in either channel when the signal is center panned.

-6dB center, linear taper. This choice causes no boost in a signal that’s panned hard left or right, and 6dB dip in output level in either channel when the signal is center panned.

0 dB center, balance control. This choice causes no boost in a signal that’s panned hard left or right, and no dip in output level in either channel when the signal is center panned.

3.

Click OK.

My preference is in bold

Well, sorry I don't know how to post test project but here are screen shots focusing on channel 1 VOX. Moving pan knob to far left = full volume. To the right decreases volume until off at hard right.

Wrestling with this for months. Pan doesn't pan L/R. It fades volume to 0 as a volume control. Want to use 0 Center, Balance control. Switched to every setting no results. Converted track mono to stereo, +/- interleave every possible way.

I'm at a loss. Any ideas?

Cheers

King Burton

I actually have a question - not about the background or strip colors, but the midi notes themselves being different colors.

Mostly they are blue. Sometimes they are grey.

Now I'm editing a track where they are tan (dark tan when note is selected) and the behavior of the soft synth (Modo Bass) is a little suspicious.

I know there must be a purpose but I don't know why. Any thoughts?

Had recent update issues forcing me to a full Cakewalk delete and reload. Been three weeks and still finding little details to address.

Track is mono, interleave set to mono, all to stereo output. Interface is set correct. Worked great for YEARS until update. What should panning law be?

**** Just rechecked interleaves - some to stereo. Now pans but no matter what law I choose, huge increase in L/R vs C. How to make L or R same as C?

From Doc: 0 dB center, balance control. This choice causes no boost in a signal that’s panned hard left or right, and no dip in output level in either channel when the signal is center panned.     - This is what I want.

So, have selected 0 dB center, balance control, rebooted Cakewalk, no change in pan.

So what I am getting is one of these:

(Default) 0dB center, sin/cos taper, constant power. This choice causes a 3 dB boost in a signal that’s panned hard left or right, and no dip in output level in either channel when the signal is center panned.

-3dB center, sin/cos taper, constant power. This choice causes no boost in a signal that’s panned hard left or right, and 3 dB dip in output level in either channel when the signal is center panned.

0dB center, square-root taper, constant power. This choice causes a 3 dB boost in a signal that’s panned hard left or right, and no dip in output level in either channel when the signal is center panned.

Here is what I do. I either write or import a midi groove. AND this works if all you have is a short audio groove.  First make sure to fit it inside the measure lines, front and back. Right click on the clip and select GROOVE LOOP. Then grab the Right side top left and drag as much as you like. If you don't make sure of the start and stop of the clip, it will mess up.

.Have fun.

It has to be so simple; I'm embarrassed to ask. Pan knob is not panning. It only increases volume no matter L or R. Is this r/t the panning laws in preference?

Thanks for your patience.

k

Wow! KILLER ANSWER!!!! Yup, 64b in a 32b = FAIL.    AMAZING!!   Scook - speaks to your answer.

Begs the Qs: What could I have done in a Cakewalk upgrade to cause that?  How to load VSTs without bitbridge involvement?

(Got SD2 working but EZD2 64b crashes Win11. - BUT I don't know if bitbridge is the culprit there. Will experiment.)

Thx Scook.

Checked to be sure. Both EZDrummer 2 and Superior Drummer 2 installs are 64bit.

Also checked other 32b VSTs and they work fine. Toontrack seems to be the only issue.

Did the DREADED and SEVERELY DESPISED Cakewalk update and now Toontrack (EZD 2 & SD2) drums stopped working. Uninstalled Cakewalk and Toontrack, fresh re-install. Same issue. What I see is a routing issue. Cakewalk track route choices show 1L or 1R or 1L/R. etc. and so on for each. However, Drum prog channel route shows Channel 1, Channel 2, etc.

Clearly no one is talking together.

Dug thu preferences and all is correct. Scan/re-scan VST ~20 times.

This UPGRADE feature has costed me a week of no production. Anybody have an idea how to fix?

Win11   i9-1100K   64G   1T  Presonus 8-chan Firestudio

So, all my softsynths give a midi track that communicates to an audio track that then reports to whatever your choice of output is. Am I unique?

Did.  Explained what I had tried so far. They recommended doing it again. sigh. No uninstall option so had to brute force delete, scrub registry, then re-install. Still acting quirky. Shows all my vsts instruments. Midi track shows active but not sending to the audio track. So no sound.

I guess it's a special feature.

Found the answer. You have to start a project first. Then the grey options become available.

I have a Control Bar question.  Had to do a total re-install. Trying to set up Control Bar. I can make changes but the Save and Manage choices are greyed out. Is there a trick I should know about?

OK. So all this was a terrible plan. Created junction ok. Updated and everything crashed so bad I had to do a system restore. Could not uninstall. Hardway to delete and clean registry. Now I am ready to reinstall.

I am left with one junction:   mklink /j "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk" "F:\Cakewalk\Cakewalk Content"

Directory on C:\   has:        01/14/2022  03:04 PM    <JUNCTION>     Documents and Settings [C:\Users]

How do you delete this link?

(Win 11)

Just updated Cakewalk to latest version. Went to > Help > Refresh Registration and successful.

Five minutes I have to do it again. Am I overlooking something?

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After further review, clicking on the refresh tab gives activated notice, HOWEVER it doesn't actually activate. Did the offline process but no luck there either.

David - YOU ROCK!!!

I knew it had to be something simple.

Thank you so much.

King

Fascinated by this but want to clarify. Let's say Cakewalk installed to C/: I want to move everything to X/:  So:

1. Move everything to X:  2. Make a Directory Junction C to X. (Google search says OS kinda see this DJ as a shortcut.)  Will this process include all subfolders and files?

And I think you are saying any updates from now on look at the C; drive and relocates the update physically to the X: Drive.

Is it really that SIMPLE??