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Installed, and its very nice too! I am waiting for the rest of the series and the orchestrator to be released, It should be quite a powerful package.
As for comparisons with Arturia's Augmented Brass, that is a real case of comparing apples and oranges. Which is best? well that depends entirely on what you are trying to do. Fantasy Brass is a conventional sample library with a fantastic, powerful sound, some different brass instruments and lots of articulations for each, Augmented Brass leans more towards sound design and manipulated sound. Both good in their own right but comparing on price is missing the point of both.
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At least its something very different. I have some Novachord sample libraries, which I like but have not used in anger, I will probably pick this one up it up at some stage but I am in no rush.
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Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water............. Greg comes along with a temptation that cannot be resisted.
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Sequential Ciruits Pro One?
Somewhat under represented in the virtual world.
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Not free and sampled, UVI have just released Kawai Legacy with material from four Kawai synths and a drum machine.
https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/57017-uvi-kawai-vintage-legacy-intro-offer/
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89 Euros until 8th May then 149 Euros.
I have it installed via my Sonic Pass sub. There is a lot here and it sounds pretty good! It follows the standard sampled synth route so you will be scrolling through hundred of presets but it does offer filter and envelope editing and plenty of FX to vary the sounds.
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4 hours ago, PavlovsCat said:
I picked up a Presonus Studio One Pro license back when Cakewalk announced they were closing down and Presonus extended a crossgrade offer. I used Studio One a few times and I did like it. But when Bandlab bought Cakewalk, I decided to stick with the familiar. I'd be interested if anyone could share what they feel is a compelling advantage to using Studio One Pro over Cakewalk by Bandlab.
For me, the integration with Notion, the chord track and since v6 the lyrics.
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7 hours ago, bitflipper said:
Every synth I lusted after in the 70's was beyond my reach financially. First it was the Moog modular, which cost as much as a house at a time when I did not own a house. Then came the Minimoog, which promised to be the synth for the masses. It cost as much as new car. I didn't have one of those, either. Arp, Roland and Korg offered more affordable alternatives, but those weren't the ones I wanted.
I am trying to remember how much the Odyssey in the 1973 music shop was, I think it was a little short of £1000 but I could be wrong, but certainly way out of reach for a couple of students. When I started full time work the next year I was on £96 a month. Today someone doing 40 hours a week on UK minimum wage would be on around 17 times that, so making plenty of assumptions the original Odyssey would have been 16 to 17K in todays money.
So £440 for the Behringer Odyssey is quite a deal. Apparently they have matched the original components as closely as possible and retained the original architecture but they have added the ability to switch between the three original filter types. The FX and sequencer have also been added but they are extras. Original Odysseys seem to be selling a several times the Behringer price but not the cult price of a original MiniMoog.
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31 minutes ago, Bapu said:
Just curious, what are the top 10 things (in your opinion) that make it supremely better than either CbB or Studio One. Please, no bashing of the two products, just what you know is infinitely better.
I have a licence but have not got into it, it seems pretty alien to me, which could explain why some people prefer it to CbB or S1.
I have not paid the WUP so I guess I wont be upgrading.
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50 years ago my friend and I would wonder into the music store close to the technical college we were studying at and have ago an a ARP Odyssey they had on display. Of course we soon wore out our welcome. We both knew our way around the college's EMS Synthi A pretty well and my friend was building a synth from plans in Practical Electronics. Of course if you could program a Synthi A an Odyssey was pretty straight forward but it was a bit of a mystery to the home organ salesman and he was convinced we were doing it wrong by not following the printed patch sheets!
Anyway, I always wanted an Odyssey and last week I finally got one, albeit a Behringer clone. What a hoot! There is something about a real analogue instrument that is missing in the VSTi emulations. Of course the VSTis, like the one from GForce have more options, simpler tuning and pre-sets and sound very good but the experience is somehow lacking.
Why an Odyssey and and not a Minimoog? I caught my imagination with features like the duophonic architecture, the ring modulator, sample and hold and ADSR envelope missing on the Minimoog. I am really enjoying the duophonic, particularly when using the ring modulator and this seems to work a lot better than virtual version.
The Odyssey always sounded brighter than the Minimoog, probably because of the lack of the mellower triangle waveforms, the 12db/oct LP filter (on the first model) and the inclusion of a highpass filter. Behringer have included three LP filters from three different generations of the instrument so you can select a 12db or one of two 24db filters. The 4075 filter is particularly squelchy at high resonance.
They have also included a sequencer and some effects, and it's MIDI along side CV and Gate inputs which would be handy with other analogue gear.
I think the Minimoog had better performance controls with pitch and modulation wheels as opposed to pressure switches which I find a bit awkward to control precisely, Also the range switches on the oscillators would have been far more convenient in a live scenario. The Moog has three oscillators compared to the Odyssey's two but this is not such a disadvantage as it may seem as the Moog's third oscillator was often used as a LFO, the Odyssey has a dedicated LFO.
So I am really enjoying a vintage analogue synth experience, I may be some time!
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On 4/6/2023 at 5:53 PM, mettelus said:
Being someone unfamiliar with EZKeys, this is a bit concerning. Can you create your own MIDI styles or are you locked to theirs (I think I read that those MIDI packs are in a proprietary format)?
I definitely agree that the loyal customers are getting hosed with the buy 1, get 2 free for new users. It comes across as a customer vacuum to sell add-ons later.
Yes, you can drag in any MIDI and save it as a user pattern which can then be used like proprietary MIDI.
So you could play a couple of bars in an easy key like C and then play the pattern using a chord progression in any key you want. It's not ALL about the MIDI packs.
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I bought the Odessey from Gear4Music for £449. All the UK retailers showing the same price but I picked them on delivery time. Its a nice bit of kit, very solidly built and sounds great.
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39.80 Euros
" A MODERN CREATIVE ARP TOOLBOX
Expand Falcon with 100 modern-oriented arp sounds
Tweak and perform on-the-fly with macro controls and chord helper
Deep editing capabilities of Falcon allow limitless customization"
Installed via Sonic Pass.
There are also updates for Dual Delay and Shade in UVI Portal
Doh - Larry beat me to it!
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On 4/3/2023 at 3:27 PM, abacab said:
Yes, definitely a Studio One thing. The updated Waves Central installs a new v14 Wave Shell.
Plugins for v12 were fine, but I had to force Studio One to re-scan plug-ins to pick up the new v14 Waves Shell. Apparently S1 fails to auto-detect the new point release for "14.12".
Select "Update Plug-in List" in Studio One (forces a re-scan at DAW start-up). Found in S1 Menu > View > Plug-In Manager.
I had contacted Waves support about the S1 problem. They responded quickly with a longish procedure to reinstall after cleaning up a number of files which solved the issue.
The forced rescan in S1 would be a much simpler solution.
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6 hours ago, Sander Verstraten said:
The price cuts are hitting Thomann now too. I got K-2 for €229. Others are discounted too.
Both Thomann UK and DV247 showing the Oddessy at £449. I am sure it was considerably more last time I looked.
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There is no indication on what is included in the pack. Here is the a link to Martinic with the lowdown. https://www.martinic.com/en/products/retro-pack
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Interesting, I wonder what the effect will be on UK prices?
My GAS is telling me I should buy a hardware synth. I always lusted after an Oddesy back in the 70s which was way, way out of my price range.
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15 minutes ago, balinas said:
Vernon,
I have a bunch of old shells and currently on V 14. Could you post the clean up instructions? thanks!
Not sure if it the best way to remove old shells, I suspect there is a simpler way but I have PMd you.
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19 hours ago, Bapu said:
Not here. I did the update to waves central, did a complete uninstall, and the na fresh install (of V14 only since I own the whole kitandkaboodle). Everything is as it should be on Studio One.
Kudos to Waves technical support, I got an email this morning within 12 hours of submitting the ticket with a simple "re-scan in Studio One" which I had already done and a detailed process if that didn't work. Basically an reinstall with a bunch of other manual clean-up instructions, then re-install. Its all working fine. I am on V14 exclusively so this had the further advantage of removing several redundant Waves shells which has sped the VST scans up considerably.
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22 minutes ago, Bapu said:
Not here. I did the update to waves central, did a complete uninstall, and the na fresh install (of V14 only since I own the whole kitandkaboodle). Everything is as it should be on Studio One.
I may try uninstalling tomorrow. I did a repair in Central and that did not help.
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Well, lets see if their tech support is working. After 26th March update Waves VSts wont load in Studio One. Its fine in Cakewalk and Komplete Kontrol so I did not see the problem immediately. I have opened tickets with Waves and Presonus.
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52 minutes ago, cclarry said:
$355.11 at JRR with code FORUM
That's just the strings, so +/- $1600 for the 5. I know people around here don't like subs but my CC subscription is one of the best deals I have had.
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I have the Composer Cloud subscription and have just installed the first release. the strings.
There is a lot to explore here so I have only had the briefest of browses through the pre-sets. It all sounds pretty impressive but I do think the reverb is laid on too thick in most cases for my taste but can very easily be dialled back.
Some of the "6 Celli and 4 Basses" pre-sets are really powerful, excellent stuff!
The Hardanger Fiddles and the Viol ade Gamba sound very nice indeed.
As a mountain dulcimer player I could be critical of the mountain dulcimer pre-sets as I don't think the sound authentic , but they do sound good and usable as unique sounds in their own right. The same probably applies to the lute which seems very bright.
My first impression is this package is going to get some use!!
I look forward to the rest of this series, particularly when they add the orchestrator.
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The chord track and the integration of Notion are the main reasons I mostly use Studio One these days even though I think Cakewalk's MIDI is otherwise better.
Sometimes I only use the chord track as a reminder of the chord for any location, other times I get MIDI to follow the track and it's very useful editing in Melodyne.
I don't write in Notion but send scores from S1 complete with chords, lyrics, tempo qetc that need very little editing and this is a useful tool working with collaborators.
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East West Hollywood Fantasy Brass
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EW are aiming it at scoring fantasy films etc. Hence the name. It departs from conventional orchestra lineups ( like fantasy Strings) by adding other, older, instruments like Alphorn and Viols but it remains a straight library of real instrument samples with keyswitches and various mic positions.