Tommy Byrnes

Thanks, Noel.

Nope. 2-3 seconds. I can count one Mississippe two Mississippi.

That is very interesting. I found the inverse to be true. I can toggle bypass fairly quickly in CbB and I've never had it crash. Is there a pause on your test system when using EI and using bypass and is that the expected behavior?

That is an interesting idea. None of my comps have Win 10 and I'm waiting until I have to make the switch.

I'm not sure how to do a video but I can certainly do a remote call. That would be above and beyond and much appreciated.

Since there are a lot of us who are fond of the old CbB for various reasons and since many people spent hours and hours customizing themes and workflows to suit their needs, why not keep the old version available alonside the new Sonar for subscribers only. It would mean folks who do not or have not financially supported Cake in the past would need to migrate to the new free version whilst Bandlab members have the option of Sonar and all the new features and updates or a final steady state version of CbB. Just a thought.

No Ben, they are all visable.

Hi Mike, I ran the dxdiag.exe and it reported no problems with either display or sound. My scaling is set to 100% for both monitors. Thanks for helping me ferret all this out.

My eyes must be getting old because I can't really see any difference except for little white brackets? Yeah, I think it's too subtle for my use. It's hard to see in a busy mix.

Hi Ben, Yes, it happens in all projects, including new ones. My monitors are set to 100%. I do use two monitors but Sonar is only on one with the other dedicated to RME TotalMix FX and UAD Console. All tracks and busses are visable, none hidden. The graphics anamoly fixes after I scroll up and down and then back and forth between tracks but it does appear every time. If I close the CV and then reopen it the problems reappear. All of this happens 100% of the time. Thanks for trying to get to the bottom of this. I really do appreciate the help.

Hi Noel, thanks for the response. Yes, I'm aware of all of the updates since CbB. But it's a problem exclusive to Sonar for me. The audio engine does not seem as smooth in my case. It feels, well, sluggish. I have the newest flagship RME interface with the latest drivers and a two year old purpose-built computer so I know it's not my gear. Graphics causing audio stutter is not good. And, I want you and the rest of the Bakers to know how much I've always appreciated the incredible work you folks have done over all these years.

I have been running a client’s sessions all week with the “new” Sonar. It’s a project that we’ve been working on now for two months, every week for long sessions. Until I downloaded Sonar out of necessity, since end of life has been announced for CbB, I have been using CbB many hours every day for years and have never once felt like my DAW would either let me down or fail to inspire some level of creativity by its looks. We are visual primates after all. There have been problems with Sonar, some graphics problems (minor annoyance in the grand scheme) and some audio problems, which are major. When using external inserts there is a two to three second freeze of the audio engine when toggling on/off. That makes real-time comparison of the effect impossible and a bad look when previewing mixes for your client. This issue does not exist in CbB. Certain plugins now pause the audio toggling on/off that didn’t in CbB. Not sure if they are related. The audio glitches and stutters when scrolling in Console View, either front to back of tracks or up and down the strip. And, there is a graphics glitch where items show up in the wrong place. I have posted examples previously here: https://discuss.cakewalk.com/topic/85548-graphics/ If I may ask, please make the active plugin in the FX bin highlighted in all themes. Also, please make the active track indicator at the bottom of the console strip more apparent in all themes, not just a thin blue outline. Please add hash marks and more detailed numbers to the meters like the way the used to be. And, please give us the ability to change the color of the markers and text. Overall, I feel that CbB was a more elegant and stable version. I’m sure there are a hundred things done since the last CbB update including the new vector graphics but this version of Sonar feels somewhat like a downgrade for me in both looks and performance. I have too many years invested in the program and a booked out studio to switch so my hope is these issues will be addressed.

I would agree but there are important things missing from each of the themes available. The active plugin is only highlighted in the FX bin with the Mercury and Tungsen themes. In the dark theme the active track is only indicated by a thin blue outline around the track #. Tough to find the track in a busy mix. The markers and the timeline #s are the same color and again difficult visually. The contrast in the themes is not great. These are things I look for when scanning a mix. I mainly work in Console view so certain visual cues are important for me. I spent a lifetime in the analog world so the console view is my prefered way to work when mixing.

That must have been left over from the X series, when they switched to the Skylight. Like, over a decade ago.