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17 hours ago, Promidi said:

Yes, Norton has been known to be a bit of a hog. 

There is a debate whether turning off Windows updates is actually a good idea or not with fiery battles raging between those that say you should and shouldn't.  In fact, I believe entire planets have been destroyed over this issue.  Granted, the destruction is limited to merely our own galaxy.

Personally, I think Windows updates should not be disabled as they usually contain important bug fixes and security updates that end users are not aware of or have not not come across. 

What I do, however, is tell Windows not to touch drivers as Microsoft could potentially replace perfectly good drivers with their generic ones.  When ever someone has installed Windows updates and they are having issues since, this is usually the reason.

There are several ways to allows Windows updates get tell Windows not to touch drivers.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10

Okay... I'll do it your way for now, and have blocked win update from messing with the drivers.  I'm still running 7 and will be making the change over to 10 (yuck) soon so thanks for that link. I did find the needed info for doing the block in 7, so thanks for the pointer.

Also... I would LOVE to not have to be making that changeover.  Not at all thrilled with 10.

Peace ~Tim

2 hours ago, Jim Roseberry said:

You can adjust the ASIO buffer size... but opening the ASIO Panel or the audio interface's control panel applet.

Yep... I  did indeed adjust the buffer size via the ASIO panel. That was part of the fix as explained above. Thanks.

12 hours ago, Promidi said:

Mind sharing the solution?

Sure thing...

As suggested, Audio > Playback and Recording > Driver Mode: ASIO

ALSO

Audio > ASIO Panel > Buffer Size: 128

MIDI > Playback and Recording > Playback - Prepare Using: 700 ms buffers

After I switched to ASIO mode, I was getting the digital distortion in both playback and record.

It went away when I switched Buffer size to 128 in the ASIO panel. 

Oh... I also uninstalled NORTON antivirus software and replaced with Security Essentials. And turned off Windows Updates.  I don't know if doing that affected anything but, I know that Norton eats up a lot of CPU. 

Now I have zero latency in both audio and MIDI.

Hope this helps others who are dealing with the latency issues.

Have also had issues when adding MIDI channels, (and getting the MIDI instruments set up to play and record) but that's another thread. And, I have solved most of those issues already.

~Tim

Finally got it running right.  Thanks guys for the help.

15 minutes ago, scook said:

UWP requires Win10 older OSes only support MME

right

9 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

What MIDI driver mode are you using within Cakewalk ?

I always use my Focusrite in MME mode rather than UWP:

Note:  You'll have to close down any project to change this.

It's in MME... and that's the ONLY option available in the drop-down.

2 minutes ago, Promidi said:

Then I think it's more to do with with your keyboard is actually transmitting.  What model MIDI controller is it? 

I have never had this issue with my PCR-800 and a Focusrite 2i2 and manually playing VSTis

It's a Quick Shot, Midi Composer... I suppose I could switch over to the Ensoniq EPS (sigh) ...

As I said in the OP I have zero problem with the MIDI when using the Pro Tools First DAW...  The problem somehow seems to live in Cakewalk.

8 minutes ago, scook said:

 

ASIO buffer settings must be made with the software supplied by the audio interface manufacturer.

So... I have to find a Focusrite software interface page... somewhere... This is getting to be some fun...

21 minutes ago, MusicMan11712 (aka Dr. Steve) said:

One source of stuck notes might be the midi data itself--e.g., sustain on with a missing sustain off, note durations that cause the note to hang, etc.  If its still a problem and you haven't looked yet, possibly check Views > Event List.

I'm getting the stuck note when I'm just testing the new settings. Manually playing the midi keyboard...  Doesn't ,,, or hasn't yet produced stuck notes during playback.

1 hour ago, Promidi said:

Try increasing it further....  I have mine at 750

Tried 750... problem persists. I'll keep trying different buffer settings.

I've noticed that when in ASIO mode, I can't adjust the latency, and I'm now getting some "scratchiness" distortion during playback.

Seems that --- One thing... leads to another...

I did some searching in the forum and found helpful info here...

https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/5573-stuck-midi-notes-still-a-problem/

In - Prefs, MIDI - Playback and Recording / Playback, I reset the Buffers to 250 ms... seemed to have fixed the problem.

But no... still getting a stuck note. Any other fix info would be most helpful.

Tim

9 hours ago, Promidi said:

Preferences | Audio | Devices and settings - Driver mode

Found it in Preferences | Audio | Playback and Recording.  Changed to ASIO ... got rid of the latency... but now it sustains notes.  Just holds onto them until I exit the song.

Not sure. Where do I find that? There is a Driver Mode drop-down that only has MME as an option. Is there another way to find out or change to ASIO mode?

There's a latency happening when using the Cakewalk DAW... maybe 200 ms... Doesn't happen with the Pro Tools First DAW... Using same computer same interface... Running a MIDI keyboard into Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 into a Dell 3ghz, 8 gig ram... I think the all of the drivers are up to date... Tried messing with buffer times etc., in the preferences...

I know that audio and MIDI latency are different problems... Looked through a bunch of the Forum pages and searched "MIDI latency" but came up with nothing here.

If anyone has insight and solutions I will be grateful.  Thanks ~Tim