Carlos

11 minutes ago, ensonced said:

There is only 1 way to double track guitars (left and right) and that is to 'double track' the guitars, 2 seperate recordings, it will sound so much thicker, bigger and alive, and well just plain better. All the slight differences in timing pick attack, pressure etc etc just makes it come alive when each is panned away. Trying to do it any other way with 1 recording doesn't even come close, sounds dead (in comparison). This of course is just my opinion, and for my style, driven hard heavy rock, but I would never do it any other way than actually double tracking the guitars. ymmv of course

I agree to an extent, but have you used my suggestion? I was astonished to hear it first in an Ola Englund reviewing the Reaxis (Mercuriall) and then Mercuriall released the Chorus alone for free! Again, it works great to give the NOTION of L and R (double track), but of course if I were to make a recording, I would definitely record twice the guitar line/riff.

7 hours ago, Zo said:

Carlos check this out ...respect the settings exept the input (digital) just crunch what's needed ...and try the mebrini  start from there /...  

 

Notice tha with Masrhall you have to crank the gain to get tha meat so cranck it with output master and play with input and output on the botton

It's not aimed to be the same sound ..just to let you feel how hard to say one is better than another ...in this track i have here ... the mebrini is tio thin and precise ...i need density and dirt

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I almost missed this post.
Your IK preset works great, I put the Greenscreamer (Plugin Alliance) before it, messed with the input and output as you said, and it became tighter with a very good sound, indeed.
Then I tested your Nembrini preset, with the Greenscreamer before it too, and set the Treble to 8 (you had it at 5) , upped the volume to exactly 4, and sounds amazing too.

But then I set the Nembrini to Lead Channel, MASTER to 4, Bass to 4.5, Mid 7, Treb 7, Volum 9, Gain 4, Presence 5  and OMG!!! This is using my headphones (DT 990), can't use monitors right now (late night).

You can make the IK's sound pretty good but Nembrini resonates like a real one, takes better pedals too. (Again, your IK preset is pretty good, I'd give IK's sound a 7, Nembrini 9.9 :P)

I really suggest you use the free Chorus from Mercuriall, as it gives you the notion of what guitars would sound like if you double tracked (left, right). Their TSC (green screamer) and MEtal Area FREE pedals so good too. I just tested these before the Nembrini, ufffff,

1 hour ago, Zo said:

@Carlos articulated

Keyword here. Yes.
But I love the Marshall for clean too (Clean channel with some gain in it, for me sounds full and stellar). And for crunch too
I really was dissapointed with the Soldano, even tried external IR's. Nothing I did made it sound great to my ears.
And I never thought I would love to death the Marshall, until I saw the 80% sale, made me download the demo... INSTANT BUY.

2 hours ago, Christian Jones said:

And.. where they at? Where that link at? 

Here he runs a guitar riff through the Orange amp of Amplitube 4

3 minutes ago, Piotr said:

Nothing sounds better than Igor. His voice is glorious

I used purple sarcasm  

On 10/8/2019 at 6:39 AM, Zo said:

Can t believe i cliked on the link ...wtf ...

Why ? It sounds amazing! Better than Nembrini!!

22 minutes ago, Christian Jones said:

Whose videos? Zo got videos? 

yES, zO HAs videos  (very very good ones)

No pizzicato , some people don't like that (I don't have an opinion on that), whereast the whole package (Studio Solo Strings) it was taken from does include pizzicato .

You can get Studio Solo Strings for 189!!!! Wowowowow, use the code guys... wowowow.

Umm, IR are super imporant, yes, but for me is equally imporant what amp emu you are using.
Nembrini takes the cake.

And I know the Nembrini is way better than any IK or whatever. That's enough for me.
If you dig more IK's more power to you. In your videos you seem to get good tones from it (using the Orange in the Overloud brothas).
On my end I am super happy finally.

6 minutes ago, Zo said:

Guyz what you describes is exactly the probem : 

Any small move , from a 0,2 eq move to a 5 mm mic move , is amplified like fraaazy with amp I don t even talking by overdrive and disto box added to the chain , add to this cabinets , mic sampling ect...

 

so unless you get the exact same sound , you can not judge to signal , period , the only thing you gonna hear is difference in tone .... or like you stated differences n higher register due to the design , i know mebrini and pa filters a lot high freq , a lot of amp sim does that , this results on what i said to a friend like a feeling of lo fi in the mix versus a real amp ...

So my point is , if you guyz fire a marshall and another marshall and just say this one is superior because you prefer the sound , it s just irrelevant , i m amazed how different a SAME amp can sound presets from presets just with smale moves ...due to what i explained before ...

So how did i made my statement : i opened each amp and did the sound i ve found the best for the song ... one is orange , one is soldano , one is fender , one is randall ect ...did a blind test and the orange came several time at first ... and when in another exemple i needed more depth to compete with for exemple with the membrini and neutal dsp (thks mainly to  their cabinetimpulses ) i succed to have even more depth with the cabinet section in amplitube ...

So at the end , i m not saying this is better than that , i m saying ´ this is no better than that ....

the fact that one amp sim leads you to a sound you label "good" faster than another , is what counts  and it has nothing to due with faithfull emulation but more with design (inrefacing and algo design ) some gain structure are linear , other are not ect ....

Even this guy reviewed a real Marshall amp, and here he says the emulation sound better than the amp, haha

Read the Vi Control thread before you purchase, it seems is just a patch, it doesn't come with some articulations...

4 hours ago, Soundwise said:

There you go!

Depeche Mod riff DI 48k-24.wav 707.13 kB · 2 downloads

Thanks you so much Ma'am. 🤩

3 hours ago, Zo said:

I hate you all lol .... so i was cooling , then i clicked on this thread ..tested mebrini , then teste neural dsp , then  cabinet talk , went STLtones , downloaded cabintes then i'm trying every of their amps ....😩

 

EDIT : my conclusion is simple , the more i try other stuff the more i think Amplitube is fantastic  .... yep other stuff are great but nothing i can't achieve with amplitube , its strengthy might be it's cons : choices / versatibility

No way you can achieve the same tone and top notch quality with Amplitube vs Nembrini (Marshall). It's just not possible. 
Amplitube is a toy compared to Nembrini's Marshall one. 
Amplitube crackles or mini clips high transients (pick attacks or played hard chords) even if I lower the input volume... (when using distortion, which is more thank half their amps)
Not saying it's bad, it's not. I feel there is not a bad amp emulation (among the famous ones), just not as top notch quality as Nembrini's Marshall

12 minutes ago, Soundwise said:

It's not a DI riff.  It's processed with the preset. I can make a DI for you. Won't take long,

yeah, DI would be nice

14 minutes ago, Soundwise said:

Audio

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OfmCtuAvbdauYrHxRdhtNQYnjfIEmrPh/view?usp=sharing

BST100 preset

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OVpiDbos_1FNTLzeOJj19yLV1ekjdjUv/view?usp=sharing

Done this in 30 seconds.

Depeche Mod riff.wav 1.38 MB · 1 download DM Slow riff.xml 1.85 kB · 1 download

I tested the audio with the Clean channel all the volume up (ok at 8   )  all bass  (ok, 9) , no treble (FIRST lower the master volume) 1 presence on master controls too. 3 on Reverb.  

2 minutes ago, Zo said:

check this line

 

 

Oh yeah, first line is awesome, I believe I can achieve that with the Marshall
Line has body/meat indeed, great tone.

1 minute ago, Zo said:

lol ok now i understand , i hate those tones ...it's just taking of any articulation , it's like painting a piant with BIgggg brushes if you know what i mean ....i'm more a Monnet guy  

Ohhh, well, now we know!

This is the best news ever mate, thanks so much

Omg just rememebered this video... Nembrini sounds so close but better (speaking about my above post)

Speaking of Megadual and Megasingle:

2 minutes ago, Zo said:

yep megadual / single can soun really close to actual mebrini, i really feel rhe same disto but dieffrent curves (eq) ...

Yep of course the marcshall can have meat but i had to boost all the way bass unlike the other ...the sources is stellar  blues low New Orleans recording ..they're super close , i will give the adavntage to marshal l for higher tone ....understand here that clean to high Marsahll is the winner , cause the high gain on the other is a pain for my ears , that said i prefer the softer tone of the other ...but question of taste , we can all agree that this dude knows his tuff and it's quality stuff here !!

🤩 I actually lower the  bass  (lead Channel). I love the clean channel with some gain (Volume knob on Clean channel) on it to give it "body".
Actually this is the first amp where I add mids and highs (remember I even have Vintage Amp Room which has a Marshall stack).
 

Ok, perhaps what I don't like about the Nembrini is the naming of some knobs: Volume vs Gain. Grrr it irks me... on the Clean Channel gain is Volume.... grrrr....
lol So lots of experimenting with the Volume/Gain knobs to actually see/feel what they do to achieve the great tone one has in mind.

This amp for me means Guns n' roses and Kiss (there is  a video where a guy peruses the presets, it can do even metal). And the aforementioned bands have
the best guitar tones ever. Slash and Ace Freheley (and Paul Stanley).
 

12 minutes ago, Zo said:

when i see the quality of membrini coding i can only think that Pa fuked the thing when it come to cabinet and their set up .... instead of asking peoiple like J. Barresi or i don't know they kept doing their own thing and knowing that they're mainly metal heads i understand why it can sucks for a lot of other materials !! don't know ...what do i know about gtr lol 

So far I know Megadual is so good, it does sound like (I love cab 003 and 005) a real amp, I haven't tested with other IR's though.

11 minutes ago, Zo said:

Carlos the marshall is exellent also but it lacks like a lways some meat versus this one i'm using it fro crunch not heavy drive .... try my setting and try to make it as warm on the masrhsall ..

On my end the Marshall has meat in abundance. For me it sounds stellar, maybe your source isn't that good, idk.
On my end I plug my FAT Les Paul (I have 2) and it makes the original sound just sound beyond amazing, but doesn't change it, whereas the other emulations
(most of them) mold my guitar tone to make it sound great but DIFFERENT. As if it didn't matter what you put through those, making it sound the same

no matter the guitar source.
Nembrini is like playing the actual thing. Clean channel is amazing too.
Rememeber depending on the volume of the source is how the Nembrini will react, just as a regular amp. Which is great too.

I would have to test it more, but so far this Nembrini is PERFECT
 

9 minutes ago, Zo said:

Fair , you do have 3 amps and pedals (comp, eq , delay reverb , drive ect ..)

 

You made me try the bad boy and it is indeed better (soundwise ) than the marshall specailly with the 1960 cab

 

I don't know what you are listening to here Marshall is the winner by far (at least for guitar players :P), I bought the Marshall today for me

is the best thing ever: I watched a long time ago a video about Les Pauls (a guitar store channel) where Phil X (now in Bon Jovi) mentioned something

about the Marshall stack and a Les Paul is what has been used to record more than 50% albums (I think he mentioned more than that but don't want to exaggerate). Now I know why: I've played real Marshall stacks, and wow, this emulation is sooo good.

Also read your comments about being not bassy and more mid oriented, so perhaps it is just not your style (plus you're not a guitar player, right?)

I tested a month ago the PLINI, sounds great on the videos, but in real life... was so meh I don't know why it cost so much, lol.

At the end of the day there are as many guitar tones as guitar players so there is no truth here. I just love this one so much that I feel finally free of tone seeking (through guitar amp emulations), I just pick my guitar now and play, noodle, create as much as possible, so much fun.

This video made me download the demo (already checked the Soldano demo before the sale, unimpressed),
and even though I had to use different settings for my Les Paul, the video stays true to the plugin's sound (sounds better in person).
(Because among other things, Youtube audio sckz, we all know this, and yeah, I understand why Youtube does it, not blaming them).