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4 hours ago, PavlovsCat said:

When you wrote scrolling through the ones you have, I can relate -- and I think a lot of folks here can.  I've accumulated so many piano sample libraries over the years, from NI, SampleTekk, e-instruments, Toontrack (ezKeys), 8Dio, SoundPaint, XLN (Addictive Keys), Orange Tree Samples, Embertone, Production Voices, Spitfire, SonicCouture, etc., and filled up multiple hard drives with sample libraries that I've been committing more time to pruning then I ever have. The hardest sample libraries for me to delete (psychologically) are the libraries I've paid for (while I've bought a few sample libraries secondhand, I have yet to attempt to sell a sample library I've purchased). Of course, it's far easier to delete something you got for free.  I've long considered buying the Alicia's Keys library, but I had expected it would be included in KOMPLETE standard at some point. I have friends who own it and like it. I like the tone of it. At $50 USD on sale, it was always a maybe. At $13 USD, I bought it as soon as I saw the price (thanks @cclarry!).  One edge we hobbyists have over pros is time. Pros -- at least some of the time -- have urgency to purchases. For instance, they'll need a certain type of instrument to fit a project they need to deliver in say, a couple of weeks. Sure, hobbyists may seek out a certain type of instrument to complete a project -- but we aren't on a timeline that has an economic impact. We can "wait it out" until there's a sale. 

Time's also in our favor when it comes to mature sample libraries. That is, there's clearly been a trend in the sample library business to heavily discount mature libraries, like NI is doing with Alicia's Keys.  It makes sense on the balance sheet too, of course. As, when a library is introduced, a developer needs to pay back their production expenses, and libraries like Alicia's Keys surely paid back those costs years ago, so at this point, the costs are basically data storage and transfer, marketing and royalties incurred for each sale.  In other words, they can afford to sell it cheap.  

Sometimes in FL Studio I use FL Keys.  It opens right up. I use pianos most of the time only for sketching. 

On 2/19/2024 at 2:08 AM, Soundwise said:

How's this supposed to work? Can I redeem the license without a new machine build and installing an OS? I'd like to have the license for the next PC build, which is planned for this summer. Is it possible to have this W11 license without attaching it to a machine?

So does the redeem part mean registering with MS and you don't have to install it.

I use this one when I need just a piano instead of scrolling through the ones I have.   I bought it years ago when it was 50% off.

I just had to be patient.

Seems like it was removed.

Looks like the update was removed.

 Well I was burned when I upgraded Gigastudio 4 and a month later it was useless.

These threads create all sorts of conspiracy theories.   If they alter the new Sonar to make it less familiar with the current DAW, I'm out.

52 minutes ago, Magic Russ said:

What are the odds this is moved into the regular Komplete tier?

Isn't is already?

3 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

Yes, same as REAPER was once freeware and is now payware.

Are you suggesting  that if someone likes programs that go from freeware to payware they might also like REAPER?

Seems like an odd criterion....

I don't think it was ever freeware.  You could use it unauthorized.  I've had a Reaper license since it came out.

On 2/5/2024 at 9:04 AM, lawajava said:

At first glance I’m not wild about an organ soundbank from Toontrack for EZKeys 2.  Because the soundbanks for EZKeys in general have never been the draw, instead the magic is the tool itself and the midi that we can put together.

I am, however, quite intrigued about midi packs specializing in organ phrases.  I might grab the organ soundbank because it may accentuate those midi packs.  Very interesting new addition to their line up!

Outside of that few realize Toontrack can be a money pit.

17 hours ago, Brian Walton said:

Haven't run the updater yet, but some of those are certainly things I was hoping for in the last update.

Glad to see it isn't just a "we added products to buy" update.

smaller file size would be on mine..........IK has become bloated.

43 minutes ago, jude77 said:

I used to be a big fan as well.  I still have a ton of them, but when they did the subscription switcheroo I bailed.  I keep thinking I might get back in, but I guess I have enough residual fear that they might do it again that I can't quite pull the trigger.

They wont.  So many have dropped Waves that were not sponsored by them,  Then again at the turn of the century they did another bad policy that led to people dropping them.

 The worse that can happen is they are taken over and stuffed shirts will still have faith in the sub model.   The problem with sub models is prices also go up.

The strong point is their plugins. Everything else Waves sucks.  So far their quality overrides their crap business model.  At some point hopefully that ends since there is so much out there with superior licensing. 

I still use Soundforge.  It seems like the Suite is a good deal since you get the Steinberg SpectraLayers Pro 10.

Too bad Waves is on my sheisse liste.  I rarely buy from EP. 

It's rare to see loops with this kind of licensing these days and probably wouldn't dent my top 20 producers of loops. You won't see these at vendors that specialize in selling loops.

3 hours ago, Milan said:

Aren't there paid Max for Live scripts? Also are you implying that Reaper isn't powerful without paid scripts? Sure, depending on the music you make, you may need a synth VST (and you could use Vital and Surge is the budget is limited), but scripts? There are more free Reaper scripts that one could possibly have time to go through, not to mention that Chat GPT can write Reaper script code 😃. You certainly don't need Ableton unless you're collaborating with someone who uses Ableton exclusively. Also, not sure how to beat say this but, the insinuation that Reaper users are broke wannabe Ableton users is a bit elitist IMHO

 Yep. I buy them if they are interesting but there are also numerous free ones.

5 hours ago, audioschmaudio said:

I have a colleague who uses Reaper. Because it's cheap. And then spends hundreds of dollars on Scripts by nvk, because without those scripts it's not as powerful as he would like it to be. For that money he could have bought Ableton Live in the first place. 😐

Live Suite which includes Max is pricey even the upgrade compared to Reaper.

People pay for that stuff instead of taking time to learn it on their own.

The rationale is no different when people buy presets of any plugin. 

 8 versions of Reaper is about equal to Live Max upgrade.  

The stuff in Komplete is underrated for those with no orchestra experience. 

42 minutes ago, antler said:

From the website (bold added by me for emphasis):

At the heart of this library lies the deep resonant tones of a set of seven crystal singing bowls, captured at the healing frequency of 432Hz. With the sound being close to a raw sine wave, its synth-like qualities can easily be moulded into any shape.

Are they hooking into the 432Hz argument of 'better' sounding music?

You have to hook DAW users into that kind of thinking. 

So does one have to do 5 independent purchases?  Plus you have to use credit card.

35 minutes ago, Hillmy said:

He makes a very good case! Too bad the coupon doesn't work.

Same here.  They get a 👇 despite what it says.

I get the impression that archiving them and trying to install later on would not be smooth like Kontakt.

They have Originals which are very affordable so I assume that's the direction they are going.

When it comes to orchestra libraries one can only invent the wheel so far.

With the large amount of VST synths I see no need for sample based players either.

 I wasn't interested in it as a pipe organ,

Another major fail for me when I said I would avoid free stuff.  After 10 seconds of the demo that ruined it.

My pet peeve is the overkill of Melodyne on instruments and vocals.   You can go through older recordings when stuff is not perfectly in tune but yet we'd rather trust some colors than our ears.