PavlovsCat

I have a bunch of Waves plugins from three years or more ago that I've never installed. I use Windows 10. Do experienced Waves users think it makes sense for me to get them upgraded or are they still likely to work well (I'm still waiting on my next DAW PC to be finished being built so I can't test the plugins out now)?

I'm extremely sorry to read this, Terry. My thoughts and heart are with you and your family.

Actually Plugin Boutique carries both the free and paid KLANG libraries. Granted there is a slightly better selection at the Cinematique Instruments site, but the point here that you're missing is that someone asked what inexpensive purchase they could make at Plugin Boutique in order to qualify for the free Carbon offer. Free libraries do not qualify for Carbon Electra.

Larry linked to Organetta from AudioThing for $5 in another thread. I bought that. Seems nice, but requires the full version of KONTAKT. There's also the KLANG libraries for a little more money. Again, they require the full version of KONTAKT.

I'm guessing Larry buys these by the dozen!

I installed one I picked up for like 5 or 10 bucks -- I forgot which one, I own a bunch and I've never installed any of them until last weekend -- on my son's PC I think it was Xpand!2 -- and it crashed Windows 10 and I had to do a rollback to get the computer working again. AIR had a thread about it at KVR, a rep said it's a known problem in a thread from the middle of last year and that you should just choose the option to not install PACE and just install PACE later (he claimed that the company would soon release a fix, which hasn't happened in the half a year that has since passed). Except that wasn't an option. Consequently, I own around 7 licenses for their plugins -- never installed any of them -- and I'm now extremely hesitant to install any of them after that experience. And if you do searches, you can find AT LEAST hundreds of posts in the various forums of people with identical problems with AIR and Sonivox plugins (owned by the same parent company and they have mostly been coded a decade or more ago and not had regular updates).

See, I think that it's pretty much we've all become addicts. If there's any therapists in this group, I'm certain we're all pretty easy to diagnose. But I'm at least keeping this time down to 5 bucks and AudioThing is a really good developer and those Carbon Electra presets sounded pretty good to me in the YouTube video I shared in another thread. Man, we're soooo easy for these developers and retailers to sell stuff too.

I'm only guessing that you can relate to this, but I immediately searched my emails to see if I've ever purchased this library already before I place an order for it now!

I was listening to the below video of Carbon Electra's presets last night and I liked what I heard. It's not like it's hard to find stuff I want to buy from Plugin Boutique. That's certainly not a problem for me and I'm guessing I'm not alone in that in this group!

It's technically not on sale, but I just saw an ad for a VST I've never heard of before called Octane (and searched the forum and didn't find a single mention) aimed at musicians who make hip-hop and was thinking of picking it up for my son. Has anyone here used it or know of the developer? Is it any good? 240+ presets and it sounds decent in the videos and demos and is only $9.99 -- before I show it to my son I was hoping to get some feedback. I just know after buying AIR plugins that are a disaster to install, even if a plugin is cheap, it's not much of a deal if you can't get it to work. https://sonicsounds.com/octane

But Larry they're always free.* *Okay, I'm totally just messing with you to reference a recent Facebook post. I'm from Chicago where kidding with your friends like that is an honored tradition.

They should give Larry a commission on sales and be happy! Seriously, if I were a dev, I would be very grateful for Larry. I'm a sample and VST user and very grateful for Larry. I wouldn't get a fraction of the freebies and deals I get without his posts!

That sucks. I own a small dot com and can't even tell you how many attacks we have on our site per day. It's become insane over the past decade. Security is so important, but it's pretty clear that a lot of small business -- including small music developers and retailers that we use -- don't have great security practices or even very thorough web processes at all (it seems a lot of them just use WordPress templates and go). Be careful where you store your data folks. It's the reason I never store credit card data on small sites; I use PayPal or other third-party online payment services.

Hahahahaha! They went all in on this demonic sale!

While I've advised Orange Tree Samples and had a lot of input in the initial Evolution libraries and Greg and I are friends, I started out as an obsessive guitar sample library user who thought Greg's guitar and bass libraries were amazing (and they continue to be amazing; I can't share the names, but a bunch of musicians I look up to are customers, including a major movie composer that owns another sample brand). I know and like Troells too and own a dozen or so of his libraries, and I just bought one of his string libraries I really like (Intimate Studio Strings). I own 8Dio's Steel Strings Strum and Solo libraries. It's really not comparable to Orange Tree Samples Evolution libraries. Orange Tree Samples Evolution libraries are basically guitar libraries that you can do anything with. They don't use loops/phrases/sampled chords like 8Dio's guitar libraries, but use single notes that enable you to do any chord imaginable, any strum imaginable. The 8Dio libraries are more phrase-based libraries, with sampled chords and patterns and the electric guitar one doesn't have all of the various types of guitar sounds sampled that Evolution libraries have, nor do they have the extensive amp and effects like Evolution has (watch the 8Dio videos and you'll have a good understanding of it and then watch the Orange Tree Samples videos to have a good understanding of their libraries). Nor does it have the extensive, user-friendly scripting that Evolution has, and I think, especially when it comes to sophisticated guitar libraries that scripting is pretty much as important as the sample quality -- and frankly, I don't think anyone has equaled Greg Schlaepfer, the owner of Orange Tree Samples, when it comes to scripting guitar libraries. (Greg started out scripting libraries for some other very impressive developers before Orange Tree Samples was established as the premier guitar deep sample library developer on the market.) My opinion is, if you like what you hear in the 8Dio videos and are okay with the limitations, pick it up. But when you want something that is deep and without limits and realistic enough that you can use it in your final production, Evolution libraries are as good as it gets.

Wait. I've missed some of these (and other) freebies by a day or so and kicked myself for it, but the fact that it's even possible for Larry to miss a freebie helps put things into perspective. Thanks for sharing that Larry. I now forgive me.

I've been downloading these on my laptop (I'm still waiting on my new DAW PC, going stir crazy). Has anyone loaded and played any of these drum libraries that can share their thoughts? I'm curious.

It's funny, most of the time, before I complete a digital music related purchase, I search this forum to see if you've posted an additional discount for it! So, you stating no extra discount is pretty much the okay for me to stop searching! Haha. Happy New Year, cclarry. I see you've been posting all morning -- don't forget to take some time to relax and enjoy your day. Thanks for keeping us all informed on the best deals and freebies.

I love the Klang libraries, free and paid.

Happy New Year to all! Here's to a better year ahead of us. (It's not like 2020 set a high bar; it should be easy to be a better year than that). I hope everyone will be healthy, happy and making beautiful -- or at least enjoyable to them -- music throughout the new year.

I bought something from ADSR last month. After multiple inquiries and no product delivered in two days, I cancelled my order. Despite their advertised return policy, they refused to give me a refund and only after my refund requests did they deliver the product serial number, more than two days after I placed the order. I made a PayPal dispute and they fought me for the better part of a week before I wrote a negative review of their site describing my experience in detail. After that a manager contacted me and said he authorized a refund and that he wanted me to amend my negative review. While I've read A LOT of negative posts about Sonivox VSTs having tons of issues and poor customer support, when you combine that with ADSR's bad practices, I wouldn't just advise people to walk away from this, but run. If you're still interested in buying Sonivox, there are other stores like Plugin Boutique and JRR that I'm sure will give you the same deal and are decent, honest stores.

I just wanted to say, I've watched a number of your videos and they're more enjoyable to watch than some other YouTubers because you are a talented pianist. It's very clear when you love a library because you can see you just want to get lost playing it -- and it's enjoyable to hear. I have to be candid, some YouTubers that do reviews are terrible keyboardists and it makes their videos less enjoyable when they play. Keep up the good work!

I prefer to call it a "plus size filter."

I agree. I installed the free version on my son's PC for him to enjoy and thought it sounded great.

Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all from Chicago (okay, the Chicago burbs). Thanks for all of the sharing of information. One of the things I've always loved about the Cakewalk forum (and despite my only starting this account recently, I originally had the username eDrummist on the old forum and had at least been around for more than a decade), is that it's probably the friendliest music forum I know of. While KVR and VI can have their trolls and mean-spirited folks from time to time, there has consistently always been a really friendly atmosphere here and I just want to say thanks everyone for that and I hope it always continues. As we all know, it's been a really tough year for most of us around the world and remains a difficult time. Consequently, I want to thank everyone here who has made this such a friendly and helpful forum and wish all of you happiness at this time and a MUCH MUCH MUCH better 2021. And a special shout out to the hardest working man at the Cakewalk Forum, @cclarry. Thanks for ensuring that I don't miss another email in my inbox with a a great freebie from places like Focusrite (because I've done it lots of times) and know in advance that a coupon code will get me an even better deal than I would have gotten without seeing your posts. Best Wishes, Peter