SynthManDan

I looked at the event list, and the controller data is being recorded for sustain off. When I recorded a piano track using SampleTank, the notes continued to sustain (even though Zero Controllers is selected, and the midi data for sustain off is also recorded). However, when I keep the midi track and just change the VST to SoniVox 88 Ensemble, the sustained notes stop like they should when I stop or pause playback. The same sustain issue happens with Xpand2 which would lead one to think that it’s an issue specific to the VST, but when I use Xpand2 in another DAW, it works properly. It’s a head scratcher 🤔

Sorry haven’t replied to the post in a while. Been busy (6 kids, life in general, blah, blah, blah). Anyways, I do have that box checked for Zero controllers. I’ll do some testing this evening and look into the Event List. If it’s not recording the pedal off data, it’s strange as other programs and software I use this controller for do receive the off message. SMD

I just record a piano track playing normally using a sustain pedal. When I play the track back, all is fine, but stopping the track results in sustained notes hanging. It really becomes an issue when you’ve got multiple tracks, and you’re doing simple mixer edits. Cant remember who it was, but another member used several different VST’s to confirm it. I just got SampleTank 4 and it’s doing it with this VST (along with others I have). Its like the sustain off message isn’t getting processed when you press stop. SMD

Simeon Amburgey just posted a vid about this on YouTube. I asked him a question about t and he posted a how to vid just a few minutes ago. Thanks for your response. SMD

Thank you! Yes, SampleTank was a nightmare for me too. I still can’t get one of my DAW’s to open it without crashing.

I’m wondering if there is a possible sustain pedal bug in Cakewalk. We’ve discussed the topic of hanging notes in the past regarding notes hanging on sustained midi tracks. After reinstalling Cakewalk, and having the most current OS, the sustain issue is still there. I noticed it with several VST’s and now the latest one I downloaded (SampleTank 4). SMD

Anyone know how the download goes with the AIR Structure 2 Workstation? Does it download as one single program like their XPand2 or does it download like IK’s SampleTank where the player and sound files are all separate? SMD

The interesting thing is that I ran a Windows update as well prior to trying it again without ads-one. My computer for music production isn’t used for anything else. I only go online with it for updates to music software, and when I’m installing new VST’s. Perhaps it was a Windows 10 issue prior to the update I did. SMD

How do I set up Cakewalk for Multitimbral use? I want to just run instance of the program and utilize its 16 parts. My other DAW utilizes “lanes”. Does Cakewalk do something similar? Thx! SMD

Install worked without add-ons. Interesting.... SMD

Haven’t tried that, but will give it a shot. Your explanation of the download is exactly what happens to me. thx!

I’m wondering if the last Windows update is causing problems. I had it on my laptop before, but recently did a major clean up and reinstall of a few things, but Cakewalk isn’t wanting to install now. SMD

I can’t get Cakewalk to reinstall. I uninstalled and redownloaded the Assist App on my computer. Logged in, went to install, and it just sits there saying “downloading 0/2” and doesn’t download the program. I did an uninstall of the DAW prior, but now even the Assist App after reinstall is acting up. Thx!

You might be on to something. I did a test with 4 different VST’s. SoniVox EightyEight Ensemble AIR Xpand!2 Acoustica Pianissimo Philharmonik 2 CE I recorded a piano passage with EightyEight Ensemble, then just copied the midi data to the other tracks (all piano patches). I then went track by track (muting) to test each VST. SoniVox 88 Ensemble is the only one that doesn’t hang. All others did. So if SoniVox is getting the proper messages, I wonder what’s happening with the others. I ran this test in another DAW, and none of them hung (with the exception of Philharmonik 2 that crashes that DAW, and can’t be used for the test). SMD

This has to be a sustain bug. It’s only hanging if stop is pressed while a note is being sustained. If I stop the project at points where sustain CC data isn’t present, it’s fine. Any time stop is pressed while sustain is active, notes hang. Blogosherianman, have you updated to the latest version of Cakewalk, if so are you still experiencing it? SMD

My issue is during playback only. When mixing my project, the notes on some tracks hang when I press stop. I think another poster may be on to something, as it seems to be related to notes that have been sustained via a pedal. I have Xpand2 hang up constantly, and that’s without using any effects outside the VST. SMD

It’s not the same notes every time. It’s also not overlapping notes either. I can’t remember what Cakewalk defaulted to upon downloading, but I moved it up to 750, and it seemed to help a little, but I’m up to 850, and still having the issue. SMD

Under Audio Driver Mode: WASAPI Exclusive (So I can set my latency under 20 msec). Under Midi Playback and Recording: Record: Number of Buffers 64 Playback: Prepare Using 850 (Millisecond Buffers). The only CC’s I’m using is the sustain pedal. No pitch/mod wheel, no knob movements ect. SMD

I’ve got my buffer set to 850, and still getting hung midi notes. How high should I go? Some have said 750 works fine for them, but at 850 I still have the issue. Running Cakewalk on Fujitsu T901 laptop, 64 bit, i5, 8 gigs ram, and SSD. Thx.., SMD

Well I ended up buying Philharmonik 2 CE, and wow! It was on sale for $79, and I got an additional $5 off (jam points or something) just for registering on the site. IK even threw in a few other freebies. The VST sounds amazing, and the switchable articulations open up so much control for playing. Even though it’s not the full version, you still get one hell of a nice sample set to use. Everything I need for my music in regards to orchestral instruments is covered by the CE version. This one will keep me busy for sure. SMD

I’ve looked into the full version. It’s a good deal, but for what I want to do with my music, the CE version will cover my needs. From what I can tell S2-CE is essentially IK’s version of GPO-5. Thanks for the info! SMD

Thx for the reply. How’s the install? Is it pretty straightforward or kinda finicky? SMD

I was about to buy GOP-5 from Sweetwater, and I saw IK Philharmonik 2CE with a $70 price drop! Just under $80 for it. Anyone using it, and does it get along well with Cakewalk. Is there a trial version? SMD

Ugh.., what the crap! I went to purchase GOP-5 today from PluginBotique, the original sale time ended July 31’st. Well, apparently someone there decided to end the sale early. Back up to $129, Sweetwater has it for $119, so probably heading over there to get it. SMD

Thanks! If I get it I’ll certainly take you up on your offer. The violins not having velocity is interesting. It does make sense though using the mod wheel, as that will allow for more expressive playing. At $95 I will probably pick it up. That’s a really good deal. SMD